The 2012 and beyond Political Thread - Part 2
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Darnit. Missed all the action again...
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Love you, Peter.
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(MSNBC) Rachel Maddow's Surge Is Fox News' Worst Ratings Nightmare: "After prophesying a landslide win for Mitt Romney, Fox News has seen its ratings decline a lot more than usual since the election ? and Sean Hannity's viewers in particular keep disappearing, while Rachel Maddow's continue to tune in over at rival MSNBC. The last batch of Nielsen data available before year's end shows Hannity's viewership getting chopped in half after November 6, according to the New York Daily News's Don Kaplan. Politico's Dylan Byers argues this decline simply brings Hannity back to pre-election norms. Or perhaps these vanishing viewers are just disgruntled voters who can't stomach the news cycle anymore. Kaplan, however, attributes this decline to Hannity's implied predictions: ... 'viewers who basked in his preelection anti-Obama rhetoric tuned him out when they were stunned to wake up on Nov. 7 and discover that the President had won a second term ? a scenario that Hannity had all but promised could never happen'. ..." http://news.yahoo.com/rachel-maddows-surge-fox-news-worst-ratings-nightmare-212956162.html
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It is well-documented that conservative American voters tend to be, let's say, uninformed on -- well -- just about everything. Here's hard evidence -- from the horses' mouths -- demonstrating that they are straight-up ignorant, racist, low-information morons: Stupid Republicans on Obama:
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(Jimmy Kimmel Live) Michelle Bachmann's History of America:
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(Conan O'Brien) Kathy Griffin asks Michelle Bachmann if she is a bigot:
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audi:
It is well-documented that conservative American voters tend to be, let's say, uninformed on -- well -- just about everything. Here's hard evidence -- from the horses' mouths -- demonstrating that they are straight-up ignorant, racist, low-information morons: Stupid Republicans on Obama:
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To the tune of the simon and garfunkel song... i'd rather be a circle than a square...yes i would...if i only could...i surely would
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AbbeyRoadCrosser:
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It is well-documented that conservative American voters tend to be, let's say, uninformed on -- well -- just about everything. Here's hard evidence -- from the horses' mouths -- demonstrating that they are straight-up ignorant, racist, low-information morons: Stupid Republicans on Obama:
You've veered from the point: My post showcases racist, Republican voters who are extremely misinformed on the issues and this President's policies. Your post, however, showcases voters who are reasonably informed on the issues and this President's policies...but are unaware of NDAA, etc. I'll take Group B over Group A any day of the week. I don't support everything Obama has done. I didn't support just about anything Bush did, but, at least, I know that Bush was a Texan town-drunk and not a secret Muslim from Kenya. See the point now?
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SurSteven:
To the tune of the simon and garfunkel song... i'd rather be a circle than a square...yes i would...if i only could...i surely would
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audi:
AbbeyRoadCrosser:
audi:
It is well-documented that conservative American voters tend to be, let's say, uninformed on -- well -- just about everything. Here's hard evidence -- from the horses' mouths -- demonstrating that they are straight-up ignorant, racist, low-information morons: Stupid Republicans on Obama:
You've veered from the point: My post showcases racist, Republican voters who are extremely misinformed on the issues and this President's policies. Your post, however, showcases voters who are reasonably informed on the issues and this President's policies...but are unaware of NDAA, etc. I'll take Group B over Group A any day of the week. I don't support everything Obama has done. I didn't support just about anything Bush did, but, at least, I know that Bush was a Texan town-drunk and not a secret Muslim from Kenya. See the point now?
And for the record: Obama opposed the detention language to the legislation -- which Congress writes, not the President. And the people in this video will be glad to know that Congress added habeas corpus/due process in 2012.
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audi:
AbbeyRoadCrosser:
audi:
It is well-documented that conservative American voters tend to be, let's say, uninformed on -- well -- just about everything. Here's hard evidence -- from the horses' mouths -- demonstrating that they are straight-up ignorant, racist, low-information morons: Stupid Republicans on Obama:
You've veered from the point: My post showcases racist, Republican voters who are extremely misinformed on the issues and this President's policies. Your post, however, showcases voters who are reasonably informed on the issues and this President's policies...but are unaware of NDAA, etc. I'll take Group B over Group A any day of the week. I don't support everything Obama has done. I didn't support just about anything Bush did, but, at least, I know that Bush was a Texan town-drunk and not a secret Muslim from Kenya. See the point now?
The point was misinformed voters and racism. Which is disgustingly being spewed by the left at Sen. Tim Scott. There's extremely misinformed on the left (i.e. a lot Twitter users) and reasonably informed people on the right. But to me, when it comes down to voting, misinformed=misinformed. There is still things the voter doesn't know or wrong about.
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AbbeyRoadCrosser:
audi:
AbbeyRoadCrosser:
audi:
It is well-documented that conservative American voters tend to be, let's say, uninformed on -- well -- just about everything. Here's hard evidence -- from the horses' mouths -- demonstrating that they are straight-up ignorant, racist, low-information morons: Stupid Republicans on Obama:
You've veered from the point: My post showcases racist, Republican voters who are extremely misinformed on the issues and this President's policies. Your post, however, showcases voters who are reasonably informed on the issues and this President's policies...but are unaware of NDAA, etc. I'll take Group B over Group A any day of the week. I don't support everything Obama has done. I didn't support just about anything Bush did, but, at least, I know that Bush was a Texan town-drunk and not a secret Muslim from Kenya. See the point now?
The point was misinformed voters and racism. Which is disgustingly being spewed by the left at Sen. Tim Scott. There's extremely misinformed on the left (i.e. a lot Twitter users) and reasonably informed people on the right. But to me, when it comes down to voting, misinformed=misinformed. There is still things the voter doesn't know or wrong about.
The clear distinction between those two groups is that these supposedly "conservative" Americans are blatantly racist, terrified of people who are not like them -- and their fear guides them in believing things about Barack Obama that are absolutely, provably false. Why defend inbred trash? Also, Tim Scott is just another individual willing to throw his minority group under the bus for personal gain.
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US economy adds 155,000 jobs in December...: http://finance.yahoo.com/news/us-economy-adds-155k-jobs-133225538.html
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(File under: "Irony") Mitt Romney Got? 47 Percent: http://news.yahoo.com/mitt-romney-got-47-percent-175320929--abc-news-politics.html
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[Surprise! Obama Is Creating More New Jobs Than George W. Bush:[/size">](http://news.yahoo.com/surprise-obama-creating-more-jobs-george-w-bush-210139079.html;_ylt=AsnSs5do4idc1FxEw9mhO0us0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTUybDU5amxnBGNjb2RlA2dtcHRvcDEwMDBwb29sd2lraXVwcmVzdARtaXQDTmV3cyBGb3IgWW91IDUgU3RvcmllcwRwa2cDZWM1OTM1YmMtNDc3ZC0zZmM3LWFmMDItOWIzOGI0OGMzYjc3BHBvcwM1BHNlYwNuZXdzX2Zvcl95b3UEdmVyAzA1NTA0NDEwLTU2YjItMTFlMi1iZmJlLTg0YWRjZmRjYmMzNA--;_ylg=X3oDMTFpNzk0NjhtBGludGwDdXMEbGFuZwNlbi11cwRwc3RhaWQDBHBzdGNhdANob21lBHB0A3NlY3Rpb25z;_ylv=3]<span style=) "...When Bush began his first term in January 2001, total nonfarm employment was 132.47 million. When his second term began four years later, it was 132.45 million, or effectively zero job growth. Obama's first term isn't technically over yet, but so far, employment has risen from 133.56 million in January 2009 to 134.02 million in the latest report, for December 2012. That's a net gain of about 460,000 or 0.3 percent. As paltry as that is, it beats Bush's first-term performance. ..."
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Bill Maher in 2009 commenting on President Obama:
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Well, they're at it again at FIXED -- oops! -- FOX NEWS... Fox Deceptively Crops 2008 Obama Speech To Falsely Suggest Assault Weapons Hypocrisy
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SurSteven:
We Need A Flat Tax...A Perfectly Refined Percentage Rate For All Incomes. We Need A Functional Floor And A Ceiling On Personal Income. We Need To Give Working People More Money To Spend On Other Working People's Works.
I have no experience with income tax, so for me it's all very interesting how Americans debate how they are paying too much, especially when so many Europeans pay so much more. I think a ceiling on income might be contrary to capitalism, and something corporate executives will never allow. Giving poor people money is communism. Giving rich people money is stimulus. George Carlin had a good joke about this.
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al Sabah:
SurSteven:
We Need A Flat Tax...A Perfectly Refined Percentage Rate For All Incomes. We Need A Functional Floor And A Ceiling On Personal Income. We Need To Give Working People More Money To Spend On Other Working People's Works.
I have no experience with income tax, so for me it's all very interesting how Americans debate how they are paying too much, especially when so many Europeans pay so much more. I think a ceiling on income might be contrary to capitalism, and something corporate executives will never allow. Giving poor people money is communism. Giving rich people money is stimulus. George Carlin had a good joke about this.
George Carlin's most poignant moment, in my opinion: