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audi:
So funny how music can strike people so differently. When I was truly discovering Paul McCartney's craft for the first time -- via PTP -- to my ears, I was hearing something that I considered to be starkly above the fray, compared to a lot of Top 40 doo-doo that was being crammed down my throat.
Thats a good point. IMO I think in a way McCartney was a bit out of step with the pop scene on PTP, maybe for the first time in his career to that point. I know what you mean about it sounding above the fray, it does. the technical acumen on display is extremely impressive, right down to the killer stereo drawings Paul did. but thats what it sounds like to me; a musical genius sort of lost in the technicality of making music. the songs themselves don't really go anywhere for me. or it just seems like they lack the universal pop element. I'm a sucker for catchy shit, and to me its just not a very McCartney-like effort in that respect. my fav song on the record by a long shot is Goodtimes Coming/Feel The Sun, probably the poppiest track. and thats why I love an album like RRS. its dripping with catchiness, and bare bones pop melodies. on PTP I feel like any really poppiness is just buried in the production. just doesn't fit my ear. but I can respect the record from a technical standpoint. Paul's a freaking studio heavyweight on it. almost to a fault. But to Paul's credit, he didn't have to prove he could write simple pop hooks in 1986, he had done it repeatedly better than anyone for like 20yrs straight at that point. he wanted to do something new. good for him, it's my problem if it ain't my cup of tea. fact is its stuff like that that differentiate the truly great artists from artists who just repeat the same stuff over and over. thats not Paul. plus I really don't like the cover
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kapoo:
I will only listen to So Bad if I want to laugh at how dumb it is! IMHO. otherwise I don't skip much. my list of occasional skips would probably be pretty long though actually.. I normally throw on a Paul record to hear specific songs, now that I think about it. not only do I not skip See Your Sunshine, I almost never play it only once. I'm very weird with my fascination with that recording. its lame and yet one of the most wicked sounding things I've ever heard all at once! another cheese one I like a lot is How Many People! I do like some of Paul's cheese. just not So Bad. although I don't like anything from Broadstreet. That album and Press To Play are the worst for me. 3rd worst probably Pipes of Peace. however PTP and POP both have some cool stuff on them.
"Girlfriend" is skippable for me. In fact, I race across my house to skip it when I'm playing the album it's on. SSSSSSSSSooooooooooo awful!
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Great song. Terrible key. MJ and Quincy got it right.
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What's That You're Doing The Man Used To Be Bad Freedom Gratitude, Nod Your Head That's about it for me, really. I don't hear a single skip track on his albums from 1970-1980.
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Heather (not his 1969 demo, but the Chaos and Creation one) is one I cannot listen to for obvious reasons!
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Think you mean Driving Rain
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DrBeatle:
Heather (not his 1969 demo, but the Chaos and Creation one) is one I cannot listen to for obvious reasons!
I love that song !
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kapoo:
DrBeatle:
Heather (not his 1969 demo, but the Chaos and Creation one) is one I cannot listen to for obvious reasons!
I love that song !
I like the piano-part of that song. The electric-guitar part of it doesn't quite work for me. Sounds very "Monday Night Football" ... same with "Rockestra."
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audi:
kapoo:
DrBeatle:
Heather (not his 1969 demo, but the Chaos and Creation one) is one I cannot listen to for obvious reasons!
I love that song !
I like the piano-part of that song. The electric-guitar part of it doesn't quite work for me. Sounds very "Monday Night Football" ... same with "Rockestra."
that a funny thought audi, totally see what you are saying! It's really that rolling piano part that I like in it too. This is going to sound weird, and I know that Paul even mentions flying to the moon and space in his lyric, but the sound of the music gives me the feeling of flying through space on a beam of light, just cruising! like sitting right on the front edge of a beam of light, flying. its quite cool that it gives me that feeling of motion. its the music that does it, not even the lyric. told you it would sound weird plus its that mix of melancholy and hopeful feelings all at once, thats cool. I don't even equate the song with Heather the person for some reason. which is why I can enjoy it..
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PDS:
Think you mean Driving Rain
Whoops! Yes, I did. I was listening to Chaos (the album) when I typed that and messed up ops:
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kapoo:
I don't even equate the song with Heather the person for some reason. which is why I can enjoy it..
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"Average Person" and "Famous Groupies" sounded Broadway to me, perhaps wrongly (?). I think Paul could write an a witty amusing Broadway musical if he tried his hand at that genre.
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Suz', go to your room.
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I'm still getting over that whole Glee thing from couple of years ago.
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Just thought it might be a lark for him, a spot of fun, if he could hit on a cool premise for a musical. They made a musical from the cool movie "One" somehow which played on Broadway and won awards. How bout a musical of the Fabs' early years starting out trying to make it...the Germany part would be uber-wild, but I know what you mean, audi there's something kind of icky about the idea of Paul on Broadway.
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The Pound is Sinking and Dress me up as a Robber from Tug of War.
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jonh81:
The Pound is Sinking and Dress me up as a Robber from Tug of War.
You're joking John, surely Ebony And Ivory and What's That You're Doing from TOW, they seem out of place on that album to me.
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This thread needs more Press To Play. Not going to single out any songs, but I thought it was clearly his weakest album. When I absorbed the whole catalog throughout December-February, that was the first one to drop from the rotation.
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seventieslord:
This thread needs more Press To Play. Not going to single out any songs, but I thought it was clearly his weakest album. When I absorbed the whole catalog throughout December-February, that was the first one to drop from the rotation.
Not as atrocious as Pipes Of Peace in my book, at least Paul was experimenting on PTP.