Paul's upcoming album review they say its HOT!
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You can spin it anyway you want, but McCartney himself has said many times that he is an optimistic writer, he has said many times that he doesn't really write the dark emotional stuff because he doesn't think he's good at it. Those are his own words! So McCartney is more of a rocker, yes one of his gifts is melody, but another one of his gifts is knowing how to rock! There's absolutely nothing wrong with that because no one is saying that's all he is. If someone doesn't know how versatile McCartney is by now, they haven't been paying attention.
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femaleanimal:
left hand man:
McCartney should work with producers that undrestand he's a rocker not some deep emotionally injured artist!
McCartney should work with producers who understand he`s both - and many more things as well.
McCartney should put a broom through the MPL PR dept and get people who know their stuff. The whole mob there strike me as rank amateurs. Even the Stones as hackneyed as they are have a remarkably effective promotions team.
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favoritething:
femaleanimal:
left hand man:
No he's not both! McCartney has always been an optimistic artist, nothing emotionally injured about the man! Yes he's gone through hard times just like the rest of us, but he has always kept his optimism no matter what! Any producer working with him should know that about him and play to his strengths.
Hmm, you need to listen to some of his albums again. Alot of darkness and pain on Ram, for instance. It really annoys me that some fans are so intent on him being a "rocker". If we are really talking about his strengths, then his true strength is for melody. But he is so complex- which is what makes him a genius. No one should limit him.
Exactly! And let's not forget he's the man who wrote Yesterday, Eleanor Rigby, and The Long And Winding Road. I'm sure the new album will cover a lot of emotional ground.
There is also plenty of darkness and pain on Tug of War, Flaming Pie, Chaos and Memory Almost Full. Yes, Paul usually comes out of troubles with an optimistic attitude, but not emotionally injured? Reallly? This is a guy whose mom died when he was in high school, whose best friend and creative partner was murdered by a lunatic at age 40, and who lost both his wife of 29 years and another childhood friend/bandmate to cancer in their 50s. No one goes through that much grief without wounds, and if you can't hear it in Paul's music, you aren't listening carefully.
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Bruce M.:
favoritething:
femaleanimal:
left hand man:
No he's not both! McCartney has always been an optimistic artist, nothing emotionally injured about the man! Yes he's gone through hard times just like the rest of us, but he has always kept his optimism no matter what! Any producer working with him should know that about him and play to his strengths.
Hmm, you need to listen to some of his albums again. Alot of darkness and pain on Ram, for instance. It really annoys me that some fans are so intent on him being a "rocker". If we are really talking about his strengths, then his true strength is for melody. But he is so complex- which is what makes him a genius. No one should limit him.
Exactly! And let's not forget he's the man who wrote Yesterday, Eleanor Rigby, and The Long And Winding Road. I'm sure the new album will cover a lot of emotional ground.
There is also plenty of darkness and pain on Tug of War, Flaming Pie, Chaos and Memory Almost Full. Yes, Paul usually comes out of troubles with an optimistic attitude, but not emotionally injured? Reallly? This is a guy whose mom died when he was in high school, whose best friend and creative partner was murdered by a lunatic at age 40, and who lost both his wife of 29 years and another childhood friend/bandmate to cancer in their 50s. No one goes through that much grief without wounds, and if you can't hear it in Paul's music, you aren't listening carefully.
And a man who turned grey early...
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favoritething:
femaleanimal:
left hand man:
No he's not both! McCartney has always been an optimistic artist, nothing emotionally injured about the man! Yes he's gone through hard times just like the rest of us, but he has always kept his optimism no matter what! Any producer working with him should know that about him and play to his strengths.
Hmm, you need to listen to some of his albums again. Alot of darkness and pain on Ram, for instance. It really annoys me that some fans are so intent on him being a "rocker". If we are really talking about his strengths, then his true strength is for melody. But he is so complex- which is what makes him a genius. No one should limit him.
Exactly! And let's not forget he's the man who wrote Yesterday, Eleanor Rigby, and The Long And Winding Road. I'm sure the new album will cover a lot of emotional ground.
I'm sure there will be a couple lump in the throat, neck hair standing on end moments on there, alot has been happening in his world since the Chaos/Memory days. He seems a bit more upfront about it now, Too Much Rain springs to mind... "we used to hide away our feelings". Whereas Ram for instance had some moody pieces on there but it was a bit ambiguous which is also his game anyway. He knows his niche in his Pop albums, we all know what were going to get, only not quite.
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Re the songs not having titles.......we already know three of the possible songs titles Hosanna with Ethan Johns, Life Of A Party Girl possibly with Mark Ronson and Struggle wriiten with Paul Epworth who also produced. Who knows if any of these make the final album selection BUT certainly the songs have titles
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Warning: Long Post I think there's 2 "eras" in Paul's after-the-Beatles career. One is from 1970 to Off The Ground or so. That's when he did promotion, wrote hits, had a lot of airplay, you know... And then in 1994 or so he started not to like doing promotion or so, so he stopped... he left EMI, and all that, as he said in some interview: Manager or so:"Tomorrow we're going to Cologne" Paul:"Why?" Manager:"To do promotion" Paul:"How boring" And that's when he released singles that didn't even try to be hits, and albums that didn't even try to be commercial. There's all the classical ones, Liverpool Oratorio, Ecce Cor Meum, Working Classical, A Leaf (single), Standing Stone and even a ballet, Ocean's Kingdom. That's SIX! classical music albums. Then there's the "experimental" albums... Liverpool Sound Collage, The Fireman "part one and part two...", Twin Freaks and I guess I'm still forgetting something... even a video game soundtrack in the future. So from 1990 on we got like TEN albums of Paul McCartney that had little intention of selling or being commercial. And then there's the "rock and roll records". And the specially not commercial thing about them is the songs choosen as first single. Almost everyone has the same story about when they discovered Paul and The Beatles. They were listening to their time's mainstream music (it could be on 1963, 1973,1983 or 2003...) and then someday heard Paul or the Beatles and thought "What the heck is this?" or so, it was so different and so great. And so they got interested on it, sometimes for life. But that thing that made Paul or The Beatles different when you listened to the radio was the greatness of some songs. Hope Of Deliverance could be the last first single who's got some of that, you could heard it and realize that was way better than anything on the radio... But then, Young Boy, From A Lover To A Friend, Fine Line, Dance Tonight... are not THAT special. Still great, but not that great. There's lots of songs in the rock and roll albums that are better than the first singles. I don't think there's many people here that think that Young boy, From a Lover to a friend, Fine Line and Dance Tonight are the best songs of their albums. In Flaming Pie you got such a masterpiece as Beautiful Night, then classic Paul ballads like Little Willow and Somedays. In Driving Rain there's Freedom, Your Loving Flame, Lonely Road, Heather, Rinse The Raindrops... Etc. like in MAF there's End of the End, Only Mama Knows and House of Wax... What I think about this is that, as Paul is sometimes interested in making albums that are intended to be hits (yes, then there's the cover ones... KOTB, Run Devil Run...) I guess it can perfectly that he doesn't choose the first single with kind of "strong" commercial intentions. ? For me choosing From a Lover To Friend is that he wanted to tell the world how he felt then or so but he wasn't thinking "This is going to be a hit or so" or I don't think he thought it was the best song of the album either.
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Congrats Michelley......feedback was the correct answer!!!
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I would give anything (almost) if the new album is as good as Flaming Pie. (you left out Calico Skies, Oliver, one of my favorites!)
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I think Paul still wants to have hits and sell records. It's in his DNA. But if the rumours are true that the new album is coming out in October -- ie. the big Christmas market -- he's either totally deluded or receiving some lousy advice. Have MPL forgotten the debacle of 'Driving Rain' (his last album to come out at that time of year), which struggled to make even the UK Top 50?? Without a hit single -- and surely those days are long gone -- there's no way on earth a new McCartney album can compete with the torrent of greatest hits, Rod Stewart-style covers corn and X-Factor-style crud (Susan Boyle, Il Divo, JLS, whatever) which flood the market in the run up to Christmas. It simply won't get the attention or airplay it deserves, and will most likely sink without a trace. As much as I want new Paul music, for his sake, I would rather he waited until spring next year to release it -- and give us a couple more Wings remasters in the meantime to be going on with. Surely 'Venus and Mars' and 'At The Speed of Sound' are ready by now?
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Mumbojunk:
I think Paul still wants to have hits and sell records. It's in his DNA. But if the rumours are true that the new album is coming out in October -- ie. the big Christmas market -- he's either totally deluded or receiving some lousy advice. Have MPL forgotten the debacle of 'Driving Rain' (his last album to come out at that time of year), which struggled to make even the UK Top 50?? Without a hit single -- and surely those days are long gone -- there's no way on earth a new McCartney album can compete with the torrent of greatest hits, Rod Stewart-style covers corn and X-Factor-style crud (Susan Boyle, Il Divo, JLS, whatever) which flood the market in the run up to Christmas. It simply won't get the attention or airplay it deserves, and will most likely sink without a trace. As much as I want new Paul music, for his sake, I would rather he waited until spring next year to release it -- and give us a couple more Wings remasters in the meantime to be going on with. Surely 'Venus and Mars' and 'At The Speed of Sound' are ready by now?
September would've been better i feel, Chaos came out in September 2005 and did okay, but Driving Rain just didn't get any push back then to be honest. I'd much rather have a new album out than more reissues at this time.
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IMO the world tonight was the correct single For FP. I remember the song was heavily air played. From a lover to a friend is also a classic macca song and I find it was not a bad election anyway. When I hear FALTAF I hear the Beatles ( let it be, things we said today, ..) However Freedom , I've always thought it was a bad move to include it in DR. It should have been let as a non album single. I find Driving Rain a fantastic album. The obvious songs are great but also About you or Riding to Jaipur amaze me. Regarding Fine line , Jenny wren , dance tonight or ever present past, I think they were all the obvious singles. If they did not chart more than they did we might fond other reasons.
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Mumbojunk:
I think Paul still wants to have hits and sell records. It's in his DNA. But if the rumours are true that the new album is coming out in October -- ie. the big Christmas market -- he's either totally deluded or receiving some lousy advice. Have MPL forgotten the debacle of 'Driving Rain' (his last album to come out at that time of year), which struggled to make even the UK Top 50?? Without a hit single -- and surely those days are long gone -- there's no way on earth a new McCartney album can compete with the torrent of greatest hits, Rod Stewart-style covers corn and X-Factor-style crud (Susan Boyle, Il Divo, JLS, whatever) which flood the market in the run up to Christmas. It simply won't get the attention or airplay it deserves, and will most likely sink without a trace. As much as I want new Paul music, for his sake, I would rather he waited until spring next year to release it -- and give us a couple more Wings remasters in the meantime to be going on with. Surely 'Venus and Mars' and 'At The Speed of Sound' are ready by now?
Well, there is a flip side to this strategy (assuming that he is actually going through with it) and, while it is a risk, it could prove to be brilliant and massively redeeming. Consider this alternative possibility: the lead single is released in September to much fanfare, and charts well (lets say top 20). He then releases an accompanying music video. Additionally, the single also makes the window for the Grammy nominations, which boosts the prospects of the album as a whole. Then he may or may not decide to follow up that single with a second before the album drops, but either way decided to do televised promotion AND some live shows (as he did with MAF). Next thing you know his new album is in the top 10 during the Christmas season Sure, it could fail just as you suspect. But, then again, it could not... It could blow everyone away both in great content and great publicity. These things are not impossible: earleir this year Bowie shocked everyone with a great album which went #1 in the UK (his first in 20 years) and #2 in the US. Lets also not forget that Paul's last album, which was a pack of standards from 60+ years ago and just two new songs, managed to crack the top 5 - in the US! I, for one, think that Paul could top both Bowie and "Kisses" with this new album. The fact that his remasters keep trickling out slowly only further rekindles interest in his earlier career while he simultaneously improves his current stuff. All said, I'm betting that this could actually all pay off and greatly exceed expectations, which Paul has done time and time again throughout his career. There are many, many musicians (even legends) who have found great commercial success late in their careers. I think Paul might just set a new standard for how it's done in the 21st century.
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Strawberry kiss:
IMO the world tonight was the correct single For FP. I remember the song was heavily air played. From a lover to a friend is also a classic macca song and I find it was not a bad election anyway. When I hear FALTAF I hear the Beatles ( let it be, things we said today, ..) However Freedom , I've always thought it was a bad move to include it in DR. It should have been let as a non album single. I find Driving Rain a fantastic album. The obvious songs are great but also About you or Riding to Jaipur amaze me. Regarding Fine line , Jenny wren , dance tonight or ever present past, I think they were all the obvious singles. If they did not chart more than they did we might fond other reasons.
I know I'm going to kick myself when I hear the answer, but what song is FALTAF? It's not on Flaming Pie I know. ops:
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Nancy R:
I know I'm going to kick myself when I hear the answer, but what song is FALTAF? It's not on Flaming Pie I know. ops:
From A Lover To A Friend
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Nancy R:
Strawberry kiss:
IMO the world tonight was the correct single For FP. I remember the song was heavily air played. From a lover to a friend is also a classic macca song and I find it was not a bad election anyway. When I hear FALTAF I hear the Beatles ( let it be, things we said today, ..) However Freedom , I've always thought it was a bad move to include it in DR. It should have been let as a non album single. I find Driving Rain a fantastic album. The obvious songs are great but also About you or Riding to Jaipur amaze me. Regarding Fine line , Jenny wren , dance tonight or ever present past, I think they were all the obvious singles. If they did not chart more than they did we might fond other reasons.
I know I'm going to kick myself when I hear the answer, but what song is FALTAF? It's not on Flaming Pie I know. ops:
From A Lover To A Friend...off Driving Rain.
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From a lover to a friend
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Thanks guys! *kicks self*
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21st Century Paul:
Warning: Long Post I think there's 2 "eras" in Paul's after-the-Beatles career. One is from 1970 to Off The Ground or so. That's when he did promotion, wrote hits, had a lot of airplay, you know... And then in 1994 or so he started not to like doing promotion or so, so he stopped... he left EMI, and all that, as he said in some interview: Manager or so:"Tomorrow we're going to Cologne" Paul:"Why?" Manager:"To do promotion" Paul:"How boring"
You've completely misinterpreted this interview, which came out at the time of release of MAF and which I heard live at the time. It was Paul's way of explaining why he left EMI. The point was not that he didn't want to do promotion. The point was that EMI's idea of promotion was always to do the same press gaggle at Cologne, they had no new or original ideas for how to get his music out there, and he was sick of it. He was quite explicit that he left EMI for Hear Music because he wanted to reach a new and larger audience. I don't know about other places, but in the U.S. "Hope of Deliverance" did NOT have a lot of airplay. "The World Tonight" (which you ignored) and "Freedom" had more, as did "Ever Present Past," which was a pretty obvious attempt to have a catchy, commercial single (the fact that it didn't get a video till after it had run its course on radio was marketing malpractice, but that's a separate issue).
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"...marketing malpractice..." -- you crack me up, Bruce.