"Out There" 2013 Setlist Critique and Suggestions
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nobodytoldme:
Random thought goes in random thread: I also just now realise 'I've Just Seen A Face' has been transposed all that time.
Wow! That was random!
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moptops:
jonh81:
I think after the new album is released he may decide to ditch Mr Kite, All together now and Your mother should know. Though the following are getting a bit stale; Paperback Writer Helter Skelter Day Tripper All my Loving My Valentine
I agree with you, but perhaps not for an audience that hasn't seen him in 11 years.
Why would he drop three deep beatles tracks that he JUST started playing? That doesn't make any sense. Plus, pretty much every promo I've seen for this tour in a magazine or television or anything boasts that he's playing "Mr. Kite"...I don't think we'll be able to determine what songs will leave until we know what type of songs he's adding, I'd imagine it would be an assortment...so we'd lose an opening rocker, an acoustic band song, maybe a solo acoustic song, a 2nd half rocker too? Probably no encore changes.
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Since we are all just guessing, I suspect MY VALENTINE will go, so will 1985 and maybe JUNIOR'S FARM.
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RMartinez:
Since we are all just guessing, I suspect MY VALENTINE will go, so will 1985 and maybe JUNIOR'S FARM.
Again...why would he drop three songs he has NEVER played in Japan? Assuming we get a new song from the new album in each "section" of the show...I suspect these to be dropped... Let Me Roll It...electric song My Valentine...piano song We Can Work it Out...acoustic song
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WixRocks!:
RMartinez:
Since we are all just guessing, I suspect MY VALENTINE will go, so will 1985 and maybe JUNIOR'S FARM.
Again...why would he drop three songs he has NEVER played in Japan? Assuming we get a new song from the new album in each "section" of the show...I suspect these to be dropped... Let Me Roll It...electric song My Valentine...piano song We Can Work it Out...acoustic song
Can you provide proof that McCartney keeps songs in the set list merely because they have never been played in a certain place?? What happened to THE WORD/ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE? COME AND GET IT? YOU WON'T SEE ME? Those have not been played in Japan and probably won't be.
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moptops:
Bruce M.:
jonh81:
I think after the new album is released he may decide to ditch Mr Kite, All together now and Your mother should know. Though the following are getting a bit stale; Paperback Writer Helter Skelter Day Tripper All my Loving My Valentine
I think if he adds new songs, My Valentine will be the first to go, probably along with a couple Wings tunes -- Hi Hi Hi, most likely. Unfortunately, I'd bet money that the percentage of Beatles songs remains the same.
I agree, I think My Valentine is his "I Want To Come Home" of the tour.
I totally disagree. I'd bet the farm that "My Valentine" is his new "My Love," and he will sing it for as long as he continues to tour.
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I'm not gonna try to second guess the way Paul decides which song's get played, but it doesn't follow any kind of pattern. For example he added The Night Before, Golden Slumbers medley and Juniors Farm in 2011 and now only 2 still remain, and Come and Get it and The Word/AYNIL just for the European shows and then get dropped. I doubt he'll keep a certain song in just because that particular country hasn't heard it before.
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audi:
moptops:
Bruce M.:
jonh81:
I think after the new album is released he may decide to ditch Mr Kite, All together now and Your mother should know. Though the following are getting a bit stale; Paperback Writer Helter Skelter Day Tripper All my Loving My Valentine
I think if he adds new songs, My Valentine will be the first to go, probably along with a couple Wings tunes -- Hi Hi Hi, most likely. Unfortunately, I'd bet money that the percentage of Beatles songs remains the same.
I agree, I think My Valentine is his "I Want To Come Home" of the tour.
I totally disagree. I'd bet the farm that "My Valentine" is his new "My Love," and he will sing it for as long as he continues to tour.
Or continues to be married. (yes I KNOW Nancy is THE ONE! Just a joke)
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Yeah, I considered going there, but...
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audi:
Yeah, I considered going there, but...
chicken
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RMartinez:
WixRocks!:
RMartinez:
Since we are all just guessing, I suspect MY VALENTINE will go, so will 1985 and maybe JUNIOR'S FARM.
Again...why would he drop three songs he has NEVER played in Japan? Assuming we get a new song from the new album in each "section" of the show...I suspect these to be dropped... Let Me Roll It...electric song My Valentine...piano song We Can Work it Out...acoustic song
Can you provide proof that McCartney keeps songs in the set list merely because they have never been played in a certain place?? What happened to THE WORD/ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE? COME AND GET IT? YOU WON'T SEE ME? Those have not been played in Japan and probably won't be.
Has he flat out said it? No. But there are a lot more songs FOR IT than the three you just posted against it.
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WixRocks!:
RMartinez:
WixRocks!:
RMartinez:
Since we are all just guessing, I suspect MY VALENTINE will go, so will 1985 and maybe JUNIOR'S FARM.
Again...why would he drop three songs he has NEVER played in Japan? Assuming we get a new song from the new album in each "section" of the show...I suspect these to be dropped... Let Me Roll It...electric song My Valentine...piano song We Can Work it Out...acoustic song
Can you provide proof that McCartney keeps songs in the set list merely because they have never been played in a certain place?? What happened to THE WORD/ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE? COME AND GET IT? YOU WON'T SEE ME? Those have not been played in Japan and probably won't be.
Has he flat out said it? No. But there are a lot more songs FOR IT than the three you just posted against it.
I'm not getting you. I never said HE SAID anything. History is on my side. Someone else even posted as much above. McCartney does not keep songs in the set list because he has not played them in a certain country. I can provide even more examples if you like. But, OK, if it makes you feel better, he will keep those songs in the set list you posted for the Japan shows.
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RMartinez:
WixRocks!:
RMartinez:
WixRocks!:
RMartinez:
Since we are all just guessing, I suspect MY VALENTINE will go, so will 1985 and maybe JUNIOR'S FARM.
Again...why would he drop three songs he has NEVER played in Japan? Assuming we get a new song from the new album in each "section" of the show...I suspect these to be dropped... Let Me Roll It...electric song My Valentine...piano song We Can Work it Out...acoustic song
Can you provide proof that McCartney keeps songs in the set list merely because they have never been played in a certain place?? What happened to THE WORD/ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE? COME AND GET IT? YOU WON'T SEE ME? Those have not been played in Japan and probably won't be.
Has he flat out said it? No. But there are a lot more songs FOR IT than the three you just posted against it.
I'm not getting you. I never said HE SAID anything. History is on my side. Someone else even posted as much above. McCartney does not keep songs in the set list because he has not played them in a certain country. I can provide even more examples if you like. But, OK, if it makes you feel better, he will keep those songs in the set list you posted for the Japan shows.
Well what more proof is there than what comes out of the man's mouth? And the songs I posted were to be dropped...
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WixRocks!:
RMartinez:
WixRocks!:
RMartinez:
WixRocks!:
RMartinez:
Since we are all just guessing, I suspect MY VALENTINE will go, so will 1985 and maybe JUNIOR'S FARM.
Again...why would he drop three songs he has NEVER played in Japan? Assuming we get a new song from the new album in each "section" of the show...I suspect these to be dropped... Let Me Roll It...electric song My Valentine...piano song We Can Work it Out...acoustic song
Can you provide proof that McCartney keeps songs in the set list merely because they have never been played in a certain place?? What happened to THE WORD/ALL YOU NEED IS LOVE? COME AND GET IT? YOU WON'T SEE ME? Those have not been played in Japan and probably won't be.
Has he flat out said it? No. But there are a lot more songs FOR IT than the three you just posted against it.
I'm not getting you. I never said HE SAID anything. History is on my side. Someone else even posted as much above. McCartney does not keep songs in the set list because he has not played them in a certain country. I can provide even more examples if you like. But, OK, if it makes you feel better, he will keep those songs in the set list you posted for the Japan shows.
Well what more proof is there than what comes out of the man's mouth? And the songs I posted were to be dropped...
Sure, Wix, sure!
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Sorry, this is a really long thread and I haven't read the whole thing. maybe this has already been discussed. But I'm just wondering, with Paul apparently being on a mission to dust off every one of "his" Beatles songs by the end of his touring career, which ones are left? I came up with about 17 prior to this tour so I think it's now in the 13 range (since YMSK, ATN, BFTBOMK and LR have been played). That's of course only counting the songs that are listed with the songwriter "McCartney" or "McCartney, with Lennon" on the wiki entry. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_songs_recorded_by_the_Beatles But there are others that are seemingly 50/50 ("Lennon and McCartney") that he's never done that I suppose he could pull out at any time, though I would consider the possibility more remote. (although he has played Eight Days a Week & A Day In the Life, I believe the others remain untouched) This also doesn't count songs that he wrote but Ringo sang. They've been part of Ringo's live repertoire and I get the impression that by now they're just considered Ringo's songs. Is there a definitive list of "eligible" Beatles songs Paul has yet to play live? I'm pretty sure Rocky Raccoon is one of them. I think also Maxwell's Silver Hammer and Oh! Darling.
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If we include hit songs written with John: HOLD ME TIGHT, THERE'S A PLACE, FROM ME TO YOU, SHE LOVES YOU, I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND, THANK YOU GIRL, IT WON'T BE LONG, ANYTIME AT ALL, WHEN I GET HOME, TELL ME WHY, HONEY PIE, MARTHA MY DEAR, ANOTHER GIRL, WAIT, IN MY LIFE, WHEN I'M 64, OH DARLING.
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RMartinez:
If we include hit songs written with John: HOLD ME TIGHT, THERE'S A PLACE, FROM ME TO YOU, SHE LOVES YOU, I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND, THANK YOU GIRL, IT WON'T BE LONG, ANYTIME AT ALL, WHEN I GET HOME, TELL ME WHY, HONEY PIE, MARTHA MY DEAR, ANOTHER GIRL, WAIT, IN MY LIFE, WHEN I'M 64, OH DARLING.
I wouldn't include hit songs written by John, personally, because he tends not to play those. My experience is mostly from live albums which obviously don't cover every tour ever. I'm surprised not to see Rocky Raccoon on the list, as well as Maxwell's Silver Hammer. On the other hand, I'm really surprised When I'm 64 is on the list.
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seventieslord:
RMartinez:
If we include hit songs written with John: HOLD ME TIGHT, THERE'S A PLACE, FROM ME TO YOU, SHE LOVES YOU, I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND, THANK YOU GIRL, IT WON'T BE LONG, ANYTIME AT ALL, WHEN I GET HOME, TELL ME WHY, HONEY PIE, MARTHA MY DEAR, ANOTHER GIRL, WAIT, IN MY LIFE, WHEN I'M 64, OH DARLING.
I wouldn't include hit songs written by John, personally, because he tends not to play those. My experience is mostly from live albums which obviously don't cover every tour ever. I'm surprised not to see Rocky Raccoon on the list, as well as Maxwell's Silver Hammer. On the other hand, I'm really surprised When I'm 64 is on the list.
I used to agree about Paul not playing songs written in the main by John. But since McCartney has played PLEASE PLEASE ME and MR. KITE, it think all bets are off. And the reason is, Paul can claim he was in the room or suggested a word. I am not being flip, just saying that Paul seems more inclined in recent years to play Beatle tunes clearly identified with John.
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RMartinez:
seventieslord:
RMartinez:
If we include hit songs written with John: HOLD ME TIGHT, THERE'S A PLACE, FROM ME TO YOU, SHE LOVES YOU, I WANT TO HOLD YOUR HAND, THANK YOU GIRL, IT WON'T BE LONG, ANYTIME AT ALL, WHEN I GET HOME, TELL ME WHY, HONEY PIE, MARTHA MY DEAR, ANOTHER GIRL, WAIT, IN MY LIFE, WHEN I'M 64, OH DARLING.
I wouldn't include hit songs written by John, personally, because he tends not to play those. My experience is mostly from live albums which obviously don't cover every tour ever. I'm surprised not to see Rocky Raccoon on the list, as well as Maxwell's Silver Hammer. On the other hand, I'm really surprised When I'm 64 is on the list.
I used to agree about Paul not playing songs written in the main by John. But since McCartney has played PLEASE PLEASE ME and MR. KITE, it think all bets are off. And the reason is, Paul can claim he was in the room or suggested a word. I am not being flip, just saying that Paul seems more inclined in recent years to play Beatle tunes clearly identified with John.
Fair enough... I forgot Mr. Kite was John, too... But I see no Walrus on the list... are you telling me Paul has played this?