New in the Charts Thread
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toris:
Wings71:
I can't get my mind around why they still have not released a vinyl version of the album. I think they lost a lot of potential buyers there. And if Paul really wants to be hip and cool and youngish (as he seems to try) it's just a huge mistake to wait so long.
From a stance of ignorance, I must ask how many more buys of New would they have got out of vinyl?... I understand the charm of vinyl and all, and perhaps the different sound, but I'm not a real vinyl fan... even if I do have 100-150 records sitting in my joint, more as ornaments and a monument to the fruits of my pocket money than anything.... I don't have a turntable anymore and I find it annoying having to get up and change the record over... am I getting lazy?.... or fully morphed into lazy, rather....I still remember buying Double Fantasy and having to get up every second song to skip over Yoko's "contribution". Now that was annoying!
Me too!
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SusyLuvsPaul:
That would be a big thrill for Macca, too, to see "New" come on on vinyl Remember that pic of him holding a vinyl album of "Electric Arguments," he was so proud, and that gorgeous colorful abstract painting of his really looked super on its cover. I'd love to see a similar pic of Macca holding a "New" vinyl album with its beautiful colorful cover art. Not on topic, but I saw a pic of Paul in an anti-turkey eating tee shirt aimed at Thanksgiving, yesterday in my facebook newsfeed. I wonder if that's a new picture. It came from his facebook page.
That is an old pic from last year. He's giving one away through his Twitter account. You just have to tell him what you ate for Thanksgiving besides turkey. I actually did not have a turkey dinner mostly because I was on call for the O.R. so I had baked ziti so I tweeted that to Paul!
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NEW disappears off the Global album chart in week six Justin Timberlake is at # 40 with 28.000 sales so Paul sold less than that globally last week . NEW as sold less than 400.000 copies globally and as good as the album is , its clear its a major commercial flop the worst of his career . Was thinking today this might really put him off releasing any new material again in his life time , its got to hurt putting your heart and soul into an album that people just ignore ,say for the hard core fans . It's really sad that NEW as been overlooked I can't find much wrong with it as a record
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Sir Guy Grand:
NEW disappears off the Global album chart in week six Justin Timberlake is at # 40 with 28.000 sales so Paul sold less than that globally last week . NEW as sold less than 400.000 copies globally and as good as the album is , its clear its a major commercial flop the worst of his career . Was thinking today this might really put him off releasing any new material again in his life time , its got to hurt putting your heart and soul into an album that people just ignore ,say for the hard core fans . It's really sad that NEW as been overlooked I can't find much wrong with it as a record
I'm afraid the majority of people see Paul as an oldies act and that he's irrelevant as a current artist. He hasn't helped himself by playing so many Beatles songs in his set that it's no wonder they think this. Also his poor high profile performances at the Jubilee and Olympics really dented his credibility here, a lot of damage done i feel. As for globally maybe people are just bored that he's still around making music, they'll accept the oldies show, but anything new is a bore.
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These are unscientific stats, but my observation is that when Paul went on Howard Stern, 90% of the discussion focused on topics other than the new album. When Paul sat to chat with Jimmy Kimmel, 80%-90% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album. The radio-interviews that Paul did a couple of days when the single, "New," was released, 95% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album.
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audi:
These are unscientific stats, but my observation is that when Paul went on Howard Stern, 90% of the discussion focused on topics other than the new album. When Paul sat to chat with Jimmy Kimmel, 80%-90% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album. The radio-interviews that Paul did a couple of days when the single, "New," was released, 95% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album.
Wait...let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that people want to talk about Paul's days as a Beatle rather than talk to a man over 70 years old about his new music? I am shocked! ETA: I hpe you know I'm not picking on you, Audi! I'm reacting to a lot of posts in this thread. For most people, Paul is interesting because of his past. It's really only his fans, or fans of the producers he's working with, that want to hear what he's up to next, as for many, Paul is and always will be a Beatle first, and a solo musician third or fourth. The fact that NEW hasn't done better in the charts is due to a lot of reasons, most of which have been stated repeatedly in this ever-continuing thread, so I won't rehash them. I'll just repeat my earlier statement: Does how NEW is faring in the charts harming your enjoyment of the album? If it does, I'm a bit worried! Just enjoy the music, as worrying or debating about its sales isn't going to change how it's selling, or not selling.
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walliebaby:
audi:
These are unscientific stats, but my observation is that when Paul went on Howard Stern, 90% of the discussion focused on topics other than the new album. When Paul sat to chat with Jimmy Kimmel, 80%-90% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album. The radio-interviews that Paul did a couple of days when the single, "New," was released, 95% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album.
Wait...let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that people want to talk about Paul's days as a Beatle rather than talk to a man over 70 years old about his new music? I am shocked! ETA: I hpe you know I'm not picking on you, Audi! I'm reacting to a lot of posts in this thread. For most people, Paul is interesting because of his past. It's really only his fans, or fans of the producers he's working with, that want to hear what he's up to next, as for many, Paul is and always will be a Beatle first, and a solo musician third or fourth. The fact that NEW hasn't done better in the charts is due to a lot of reasons, most of which have been stated repeatedly in this ever-continuing thread, so I won't rehash them. I'll just repeat my earlier statement: Does how NEW is faring in the charts harming your enjoyment of the album? If it does, I'm a bit worried! Just enjoy the music, as worrying or debating about its sales isn't going to change how it's selling, or not selling.
You silly! But, yeah, Paul needs to recognize that his stories on current projects are interesting, too. Plus, that's the whole point to going on those shows. And, thankfully, I can enjoy the album, despite it not hitting No. 1 in America. But this is something that has been a goal of mine since becoming a major fan circa FITD. It just grates at me that the masses don't know what the rest of us know about Paul's current music: He's still the best.
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audi:
walliebaby:
audi:
These are unscientific stats, but my observation is that when Paul went on Howard Stern, 90% of the discussion focused on topics other than the new album. When Paul sat to chat with Jimmy Kimmel, 80%-90% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album. The radio-interviews that Paul did a couple of days when the single, "New," was released, 95% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album.
Wait...let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that people want to talk about Paul's days as a Beatle rather than talk to a man over 70 years old about his new music? I am shocked! ETA: I hpe you know I'm not picking on you, Audi! I'm reacting to a lot of posts in this thread. For most people, Paul is interesting because of his past. It's really only his fans, or fans of the producers he's working with, that want to hear what he's up to next, as for many, Paul is and always will be a Beatle first, and a solo musician third or fourth. The fact that NEW hasn't done better in the charts is due to a lot of reasons, most of which have been stated repeatedly in this ever-continuing thread, so I won't rehash them. I'll just repeat my earlier statement: Does how NEW is faring in the charts harming your enjoyment of the album? If it does, I'm a bit worried! Just enjoy the music, as worrying or debating about its sales isn't going to change how it's selling, or not selling.
You silly! But, yeah, Paul needs to recognize that his stories on current projects are interesting, too. Plus, that's the whole point to going on those shows. And, thankfully, I can enjoy the album, despite it not hitting No. 1 in America. But this is something that has been a goal of mine since becoming a major fan circa FITD. It just grates at me that the masses don;t know what the rest of us know about Paul's current music. He's still the best.
Part of the issue is that the bulk of questions he gets asked are about the 1960's. He needs to get better about steering the interview to his current work, though. He's obviously great, we all love him and his music, but we can't force people to buy his albums, much to our collective chagrin. The fact that he's over 70 and moved as many albums as he did is pretty impressive, as ageism exists so heavily in music and music sales. We revere the older artists, but as a buying public, ignore them when their albums hit the shelves, unless it's a collection of their greatest hits. :
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Sir Guy Grand:
NEW disappears off the Global album chart in week six Justin Timberlake is at # 40 with 28.000 sales so Paul sold less than that globally last week . NEW as sold less than 400.000 copies globally and as good as the album is , its clear its a major commercial flop the worst of his career . Was thinking today this might really put him off releasing any new material again in his life time , its got to hurt putting your heart and soul into an album that people just ignore ,say for the hard core fans . It's really sad that NEW as been overlooked I can't find much wrong with it as a record
Disappointing, yes, but remember that overall, all artists are selling less than they used to. In the context of today's environment, it's really not so bad. And I agree with walliebaby: it's a tough sell for a septuagenarian making music this vital and youthful-sounding. I know I've said it before, but I think he would have done better if the whole album was like "Early Days." The public has embraced albums this century by the likes of Neil Diamond, Ray Charles, and Bob Dylan because they come off as wise old men, while they may perceive Paul as kidding himself that he can still be youthful and vibrant and be NEWly in love. Not my perception, mind you?I think his stamina and creativity are pretty miraculous!
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favoritething:
Sir Guy Grand:
NEW disappears off the Global album chart in week six Justin Timberlake is at # 40 with 28.000 sales so Paul sold less than that globally last week . NEW as sold less than 400.000 copies globally and as good as the album is , its clear its a major commercial flop the worst of his career . Was thinking today this might really put him off releasing any new material again in his life time , its got to hurt putting your heart and soul into an album that people just ignore ,say for the hard core fans . It's really sad that NEW as been overlooked I can't find much wrong with it as a record
Disappointing, yes, but remember that overall, all artists are selling less than they used to. In the context of today's environment, it's really not so bad. And I agree with walliebaby: it's a tough sell for a septuagenarian making music this vital and youthful-sounding. I know I've said it before, but I think he would have done better if the whole album was like "Early Days." The public has embraced albums this century by the likes of Neil Diamond, Ray Charles, and Bob Dylan because they come off as wise old men, while they may perceive Paul as kidding himself that he can still be youthful and vibrant and be NEWly in love. Not my perception, mind you?I think his stamina and creativity are pretty miraculous!
I really enjoy the album, and also love Electric Arguments, but I think you're right, favoritething: many will dismiss anyone of a certain age who is dabbling (and doing a damned good job of it!) in youthful-sounding music. I have really enjoyed the last 5 or 6 albums of original material Paul has put out, and consider them the best of his solo career. It's too bad that he gets dismissed by some simply because he dares to grow older.
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walliebaby:
favoritething:
Sir Guy Grand:
NEW disappears off the Global album chart in week six Justin Timberlake is at # 40 with 28.000 sales so Paul sold less than that globally last week . NEW as sold less than 400.000 copies globally and as good as the album is , its clear its a major commercial flop the worst of his career . Was thinking today this might really put him off releasing any new material again in his life time , its got to hurt putting your heart and soul into an album that people just ignore ,say for the hard core fans . It's really sad that NEW as been overlooked I can't find much wrong with it as a record
Disappointing, yes, but remember that overall, all artists are selling less than they used to. In the context of today's environment, it's really not so bad. And I agree with walliebaby: it's a tough sell for a septuagenarian making music this vital and youthful-sounding. I know I've said it before, but I think he would have done better if the whole album was like "Early Days." The public has embraced albums this century by the likes of Neil Diamond, Ray Charles, and Bob Dylan because they come off as wise old men, while they may perceive Paul as kidding himself that he can still be youthful and vibrant and be NEWly in love. Not my perception, mind you?I think his stamina and creativity are pretty miraculous!
I really enjoy the album, and also love Electric Arguments, but I think you're right, favoritething: many will dismiss anyone of a certain age who is dabbling (and doing a damned good job of it!) in youthful-sounding music. I have really enjoyed the last 5 or 6 albums of original material Paul has put out, and consider them the best of his solo career. It's too bad that he gets dismissed by some simply because he dares to grow older.
Yes, he's been on a roll for sure, creatively!
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audi:
walliebaby:
audi:
These are unscientific stats, but my observation is that when Paul went on Howard Stern, 90% of the discussion focused on topics other than the new album. When Paul sat to chat with Jimmy Kimmel, 80%-90% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album. The radio-interviews that Paul did a couple of days when the single, "New," was released, 95% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album.
Wait...let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that people want to talk about Paul's days as a Beatle rather than talk to a man over 70 years old about his new music? I am shocked! ETA: I hpe you know I'm not picking on you, Audi! I'm reacting to a lot of posts in this thread. For most people, Paul is interesting because of his past. It's really only his fans, or fans of the producers he's working with, that want to hear what he's up to next, as for many, Paul is and always will be a Beatle first, and a solo musician third or fourth. The fact that NEW hasn't done better in the charts is due to a lot of reasons, most of which have been stated repeatedly in this ever-continuing thread, so I won't rehash them. I'll just repeat my earlier statement: Does how NEW is faring in the charts harming your enjoyment of the album? If it does, I'm a bit worried! Just enjoy the music, as worrying or debating about its sales isn't going to change how it's selling, or not selling.
You silly! But, yeah, Paul needs to recognize that his stories on current projects are interesting, too. Plus, that's the whole point to going on those shows. And, thankfully, I can enjoy the album, despite it not hitting No. 1 in America. But this is something that has been a goal of mine since becoming a major fan circa FITD. It just grates at me that the masses don't know what the rest of us know about Paul's current music: He's still the best.
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favoritething:
walliebaby:
favoritething:
Sir Guy Grand:
NEW disappears off the Global album chart in week six Justin Timberlake is at # 40 with 28.000 sales so Paul sold less than that globally last week . NEW as sold less than 400.000 copies globally and as good as the album is , its clear its a major commercial flop the worst of his career . Was thinking today this might really put him off releasing any new material again in his life time , its got to hurt putting your heart and soul into an album that people just ignore ,say for the hard core fans . It's really sad that NEW as been overlooked I can't find much wrong with it as a record
Disappointing, yes, but remember that overall, all artists are selling less than they used to. In the context of today's environment, it's really not so bad. And I agree with walliebaby: it's a tough sell for a septuagenarian making music this vital and youthful-sounding. I know I've said it before, but I think he would have done better if the whole album was like "Early Days." The public has embraced albums this century by the likes of Neil Diamond, Ray Charles, and Bob Dylan because they come off as wise old men, while they may perceive Paul as kidding himself that he can still be youthful and vibrant and be NEWly in love. Not my perception, mind you?I think his stamina and creativity are pretty miraculous!
I really enjoy the album, and also love Electric Arguments, but I think you're right, favoritething: many will dismiss anyone of a certain age who is dabbling (and doing a damned good job of it!) in youthful-sounding music. I have really enjoyed the last 5 or 6 albums of original material Paul has put out, and consider them the best of his solo career. It's too bad that he gets dismissed by some simply because he dares to grow older.
Yes, he's been on a roll for sure, creatively!
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I think folks complaining about mistakes "Paul's people" have made are missing something. Some of the posts in this vein have made it sound like Paul has nothing to do with any of these decisions, which seems highly unlikely. If Paul had really wanted to do more promotion in the U.S. and Europe rather than playing in Japan, for example, it would have happened. And so would a proper video for "New" when it first came out as a single. Many of the decisions that were made puzzle me as much as others, but I think it's unfair to put all the blame on Paul's staff and/or Hear Music as if he was just a bystander. The fact is, we don't know who was responsible for which decisions or what the reasoning was behind them.
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Bruce M.:
I think folks complaining about mistakes "Paul's people" have made are missing something. Some of the posts in this vein have made it sound like Paul has nothing to do with any of these decisions, which seems highly unlikely. If Paul had really wanted to do more promotion in the U.S. and Europe rather than playing in Japan, for example, it would have happened. And so would a proper video for "New" when it first came out as a single. Many of the decisions that were made puzzle me as much as others, but I think it's unfair to put all the blame on Paul's staff and/or Hear Music as if he was just a bystander. The fact is, we don't know who was responsible for which decisions or what the reasoning was behind them.
...said the guy who works in P.R.
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walliebaby:
audi:
These are unscientific stats, but my observation is that when Paul went on Howard Stern, 90% of the discussion focused on topics other than the new album. When Paul sat to chat with Jimmy Kimmel, 80%-90% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album. The radio-interviews that Paul did a couple of days when the single, "New," was released, 95% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album.
Wait...let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that people want to talk about Paul's days as a Beatle rather than talk to a man over 70 years old about his new music? I am shocked! ETA: I hpe you know I'm not picking on you, Audi! I'm reacting to a lot of posts in this thread. For most people, Paul is interesting because of his past. It's really only his fans, or fans of the producers he's working with, that want to hear what he's up to next, as for many, Paul is and always will be a Beatle first, and a solo musician third or fourth. The fact that NEW hasn't done better in the charts is due to a lot of reasons, most of which have been stated repeatedly in this ever-continuing thread, so I won't rehash them. I'll just repeat my earlier statement: Does how NEW is faring in the charts harming your enjoyment of the album? If it does, I'm a bit worried! Just enjoy the music, as worrying or debating about its sales isn't going to change how it's selling, or not selling.
Amen Jen!
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Just to get something clear about chart positions and sales figures. Do they include downloads from iTunes or Amazon, etc. If someone downloads a few tracks or half or 10 of the 12 standard album tracks, etc., does it count as a portion of an album sale, ie: 6 tracks = 50% of a standard album. So do all the fraction of album sales get counted in sales figures. I was just looking at a global album chart and it has New at 18 up from 19 previous week. Not that bad globally. I think Paul should do a major world tour next year and maybe re-release it with more/different bonus tracks ( I am sure he has some tracks up his sleeve) and a DVD of his promotional videos & TV/pop up shows. In other words a special tour package.
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Nancy R:
walliebaby:
audi:
These are unscientific stats, but my observation is that when Paul went on Howard Stern, 90% of the discussion focused on topics other than the new album. When Paul sat to chat with Jimmy Kimmel, 80%-90% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album. The radio-interviews that Paul did a couple of days when the single, "New," was released, 95% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album.
Wait...let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that people want to talk about Paul's days as a Beatle rather than talk to a man over 70 years old about his new music? I am shocked! ETA: I hpe you know I'm not picking on you, Audi! I'm reacting to a lot of posts in this thread. For most people, Paul is interesting because of his past. It's really only his fans, or fans of the producers he's working with, that want to hear what he's up to next, as for many, Paul is and always will be a Beatle first, and a solo musician third or fourth. The fact that NEW hasn't done better in the charts is due to a lot of reasons, most of which have been stated repeatedly in this ever-continuing thread, so I won't rehash them. I'll just repeat my earlier statement: Does how NEW is faring in the charts harming your enjoyment of the album? If it does, I'm a bit worried! Just enjoy the music, as worrying or debating about its sales isn't going to change how it's selling, or not selling.
Amen Jen!
No, sorry but I disagree with Jen's point about Paul being interesting BECAUSE of his past. That's Ringo's description. (sorry) Yes, many go to see him because he (Paul) was a Beatle BUT (BIG BUT) he has continued to be creative & should be given more credit in that Beatle fans can & should move on & discover his solo talents. He & his team should market it to some of the older generations too.
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oobu24:
Nancy R:
walliebaby:
audi:
These are unscientific stats, but my observation is that when Paul went on Howard Stern, 90% of the discussion focused on topics other than the new album. When Paul sat to chat with Jimmy Kimmel, 80%-90% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album. The radio-interviews that Paul did a couple of days when the single, "New," was released, 95% of the discussion was about topics other than the new album.
Wait...let me get this straight. Are you suggesting that people want to talk about Paul's days as a Beatle rather than talk to a man over 70 years old about his new music? I am shocked! ETA: I hpe you know I'm not picking on you, Audi! I'm reacting to a lot of posts in this thread. For most people, Paul is interesting because of his past. It's really only his fans, or fans of the producers he's working with, that want to hear what he's up to next, as for many, Paul is and always will be a Beatle first, and a solo musician third or fourth. The fact that NEW hasn't done better in the charts is due to a lot of reasons, most of which have been stated repeatedly in this ever-continuing thread, so I won't rehash them. I'll just repeat my earlier statement: Does how NEW is faring in the charts harming your enjoyment of the album? If it does, I'm a bit worried! Just enjoy the music, as worrying or debating about its sales isn't going to change how it's selling, or not selling.
Amen Jen!
No, sorry but I disagree with Jen's point about Paul being interesting BECAUSE of his past. That's Ringo's description. (sorry) Yes, many go to see him because he (Paul) was a Beatle BUT (BIG BUT) he has continued to be creative & should be given more credit in that Beatle fans can & should move on & discover his solo talents. He & his team should market it to some of the older generations too.
I think that to a lot of people Paul will always be 1/4 of The Beatles versus 1 amazing composer, musician, and songwriter. To wit, how many articles about Paul DON'T mention, in the first few paragraphs (if not right off the bat) that Paul was a Beatle? WE know he's so much more than that, but the average person probably doesn't, unfortunately.
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walliebaby:
I think that to a lot of people Paul will always be 1/4 of The Beatles versus 1 amazing composer, musician, and songwriter. To wit, how many articles about Paul DON'T mention, in the first few paragraphs (if not right off the bat) that Paul was a Beatle? WE know he's so much more than that, but the average person probably doesn't, unfortunately.
Very true. More people should explore his music