Set List critique
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audi:
nobodytoldme:
thenightfish:
nobodytoldme:
yankeefan7:
[ This would have been a great time to try something like "Take It Away" or "That Was Me". As one of his biggest setlist critics, I will give Mr. McCartney credit for shaking it up a little bit for this show.
This, and it proves why we will never see something like that. Without coming across as dramatic, I gave up on pipe dreams like that when he did the special, fan-only, exclusive, intimate, 2007 venue gigs and... we got nothing.
Not quite - he did do "That Was Me" and "House of Wax" at the Electric Proms show in 2007...
Yeah, a brand new song at the time, he does that all the time. I'm talking about getting deep cuts of the solo catalogue, no songs purely there for promotion reasons. (They are always dropped after the album cycle ends.)
I started to make the same point, but I figured that I might've taken their point out of context or something. Yes, the issue is not Macca performing solo songs when he's plugging a record: It's about celebrating his entire solo-catalogue. At this point, the list is very short of solo songs that McCartney has performed after their initial promotion: -Fine Line (in Quebec 200 -Dance Tonight (Budakon 2015) -Great Day (charity event in 2003) -Cosmically Conscious (charity event in 2009) What am I forgetting?
Yep, which is sad especially when he will do obscure Beatle songs.
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Even though they appeared more frequently, I'd include Flaming Pie and Calico Skies in that list. I never really grasped why they were handpicked and in the set so long, love them both! Just very odd...perhaps Paul felt he had promotion to make up since Flaming Pie didn't receive a tour?
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I agree.
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With "Another Girl" the other day and "Hope Of Deliverance" in South America we know that McCartney is capable of pulling off genuine surprises. I just wish he would do more of them.
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audi:
At this point, the list is very short of solo songs that McCartney has performed after their initial promotion: -Fine Line (in Quebec 200 -Dance Tonight (Budakon 2015) -Great Day (charity event in 2003) -Cosmically Conscious (charity event in 2009) What am I forgetting?
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audi:
With "Another Girl" the other day and "Hope Of Deliverance" in South America we know that McCartney is capable of pulling off genuine surprises. I just wish he would do more of them.
Yes...how about now doing some Fireman or even Flaming Pie songs? Just add one or two & wow...would I be surprised!
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I think the Flaming Pie album has been reasonably represented, actually. Of course, that doesn't mean that I wouldn't be stoked to hear a live version of "The World Tonight" or "Souvenir." To me, an utter shocker would be something from Driving Rain or Flowers In The Dirt.
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audi:
I think the Flaming Pie album has been reasonably represented, actually. To me, an utter shocker would be something from Driving Rain or Flowers In The Dirt.
What is maddening is when he revives something like Hope of Deliverance in 2013, then loses heart for it and drops it.
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He's all about the easy applause.
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and the easy money!
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javilu:
audi:
At this point, the list is very short of solo songs that McCartney has performed after their initial promotion: -Fine Line (in Quebec 200 -Dance Tonight (Budakon 2015) -Great Day (charity event in 2003) -Cosmically Conscious (charity event in 2009) What am I forgetting?
Here today
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audi:
He's all about the easy applause.
The point is though...
And then trying to bring it over to the US - and dropping it - instead of playing it Europe: his last wide top 10-20 hit in the countries over here. Gold in Germany. The only song you wil hear on "popular" radio in a big part of Europe. Once again a baffling way of deciding. -
I'm still scratching my head over why he didn't perform "Hope Of Deliverance" in Germany back in '09. It sold 4 million copies over there!
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audi:
nobodytoldme:
thenightfish:
nobodytoldme:
yankeefan7:
[ This would have been a great time to try something like "Take It Away" or "That Was Me". As one of his biggest setlist critics, I will give Mr. McCartney credit for shaking it up a little bit for this show.
This, and it proves why we will never see something like that. Without coming across as dramatic, I gave up on pipe dreams like that when he did the special, fan-only, exclusive, intimate, 2007 venue gigs and... we got nothing.
Not quite - he did do "That Was Me" and "House of Wax" at the Electric Proms show in 2007...
Yeah, a brand new song at the time, he does that all the time. I'm talking about getting deep cuts of the solo catalogue, no songs purely there for promotion reasons. (They are always dropped after the album cycle ends.)
I started to make the same point, but I figured that I might've taken their point out of context or something. Yes, the issue is not Macca performing solo songs when he's plugging a record: It's about celebrating his entire solo-catalogue. At this point, the list is very short of solo songs that McCartney has performed after their initial promotion: -Fine Line (in Quebec 200 -Dance Tonight (Budakon 2015) -Great Day (charity event in 2003) -Cosmically Conscious (charity event in 2009) What am I forgetting?
By the way, remember how he announced 'Fine Line' that one time he brought out a "solo song from a previous album cycle"...?
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nobodytoldme:
audi:
He's all about the easy applause.
The point is though...
And then trying to bring it over to the US - and dropping it - instead of playing it Europe: his last wide top 10-20 hit in the countries over here. Gold in Germany. The only song you wil hear on "popular" radio in a big part of Europe. Once again a baffling way of deciding.The story goes that it went great in Brazil (I was lucky to attend the first 3 Out There concerts) but when it came to Orlando in the good ole USA Paul was pissed at the lukewarm response and said "Fuck it, let's replace it with "Seen a Face" and be done with it".
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javilu:
nobodytoldme:
audi:
He's all about the easy applause.
The point is though...
And then trying to bring it over to the US - and dropping it - instead of playing it Europe: his last wide top 10-20 hit in the countries over here. Gold in Germany. The only song you wil hear on "popular" radio in a big part of Europe. Once again a baffling way of deciding.The story goes that it went great in Brazil (I was lucky to attend the first 3 Out There concerts) but when it came to Orlando in the good ole USA Paul was pissed at the lukewarm response and said "**** it, let's replace it with "Seen a Face" and be done with it".
If it wasn't for the money, I'm not sure he would be performing over in the U.S. as much. Much more fickle audience and crowds are notorious for sitting on their hands. I was in the 21st row in Fargo and everyone behind me was sitting. Crowds everywhere else are much better. I get the feeling that American fans have much shorter attention spans. They aren't willing to even give the new stuff a chance.
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What I've noticed at American shows, and I've been to many, have been many folks talking amongst themselves during songs, and constant food and beer lines throughout the concerts. Leaving the San Francisco in 2010, the front of stage area was literally a sea of peanut shells!!! The Japan (Tokyo) crowds were attentive and hardly left their seats. The European crowds were somewhere in between. Funny how you notice the differences in audiences from region to region.
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audi:
javilu:
audi:
At this point, the list is very short of solo songs that McCartney has performed after their initial promotion: -Fine Line (in Quebec 200 -Dance Tonight (Budakon 2015) -Great Day (charity event in 2003) -Cosmically Conscious (charity event in 2009) What am I forgetting?
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In addition to a couple tunes from Flaming Pie, as mentioned above, he did Ebony and Ivory in 1990. And I suppose you could count Too Many People, performed in 2005.
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moptops:
What I've noticed at American shows, and I've been to many, have been many folks talking amongst themselves during songs, and constant food and beer lines throughout the concerts. Leaving the San Francisco in 2010, the front of stage area was literally a sea of peanut shells!!! The Japan (Tokyo) crowds were attentive and hardly left their seats. The European crowds were somewhere in between. Funny how you notice the differences in audiences from region to region.
Yeah, I've been to a couple U.S. McCartney shows where the talking was terrible. The same show I saw in Fargo, the two in front of me kept switching seats with their friends in other sections. One particular group that used the seats would not stop talking. They seemed to care more about making out and eating food then they did watching the show. Sadly, there are usually annoying people around me that hinders my enjoyment of the show.
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Maccafan82:
moptops:
What I've noticed at American shows, and I've been to many, have been many folks talking amongst themselves during songs, and constant food and beer lines throughout the concerts. Leaving the San Francisco in 2010, the front of stage area was literally a sea of peanut shells!!! The Japan (Tokyo) crowds were attentive and hardly left their seats. The European crowds were somewhere in between. Funny how you notice the differences in audiences from region to region.
Yeah, I've been to a couple U.S. McCartney shows where the talking was terrible. The same show I saw in Fargo, the two in front of me kept switching seats with their friends in other sections. One particular group that used the seats would not stop talking. They seemed to care more about making out and eating food then they did watching the show. Sadly, there are usually annoying people around me that hinders my enjoyment of the show.
I've had some truly awful concert experiences in these great states... But luckily at the McCartney concerts, I don't have much to complain about. In Philly 2010, there were a lot of grumpy old farts that didn't like the standing...just made me stand longer! In DC 2013, a father was letting his daughter stand on her chair right in front of us and that was not only incredibly unsafe, but very distracting and annoying. Otherwise, I've been blessed with great folks to sit with! We always meet someone interesting...Yankee Stadium we sat next to a couple that flew in from Alaska!