The 2012 and beyond Political Thread - Part 2
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SurSteven:
"Bernie Sanders (a self pronounced Socialist leaning strong toward Communism)" ~ The_Fool The most foolish thing about this statement I guess, and you're not alone in your beliefs, is that we in America are living in the very worst form of communism possible "right" now! It's called Oligarchic Capitalist Communism where 1% of the people have 99% of the money and 99% of the people are expected to equally share (communism) the other 1% of the money. Unfortunately, there are people in the 1% incomed who are striving to join in with the economic elite and driving more and more people in our country further and further into the stress of poverty, which is burdening our police forces, our humanitarian resources and creating 99% of all of our problems. Which brings me to Sarah Palin implying that President Obama is somehow responsible for her personal problems. I have an ex-marine friend who just stopped by and I told him what she had said and he replied,"That's Crazy!" Soldiers have been coming home from war with various problems since the beginning of time. Alcohol overuse is one of the major ones! It has absolutely nothing to do with who our President is. It is a matter of personal responsibility and she has obviously not been very responsible toward her own. My Marine friend and I had to laugh when I told him that she will probably be flying around in her helicopter now shooting stray dogs and cats for her stress relief. Very sad actually...Where do these people get these delusional ideas anyway? And, now Trump claims that he's making a stand for Jesus. Get flippin' serious!!! If he were to read that dust covered New Testament that's been sitting on his mantle for ages, he would immediately call the Pope and schedule himself an EXORCISM!...
I hate to defend Sarah Palin, but it is not HER responsibility to take care of her son's PTSD. It should be the duty of the U.S. Government to be responsible for the mental and physical health of our brave military men and women when they come home. The U.S. Government is pathetic on the record for their "care" of its military men and women. PTSD is not a thing to laugh about and you and your marine friend should know that. I have complex PTSD and it is a life debilitating condition. I have known many veterans from many wars and they live with it everyday. I don't think it is funny at all. And I have even known one that shot his own dogs he became so dysfuctional. Many who have it victimize others because they never received proper treatment to readjust to society. Making jokes about PTSD is not appropriate. I never laugh about it.
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hey_kittay:
SurSteven:
"Bernie Sanders (a self pronounced Socialist leaning strong toward Communism)" ~ The_Fool The most foolish thing about this statement I guess, and you're not alone in your beliefs, is that we in America are living in the very worst form of communism possible "right" now! It's called Oligarchic Capitalist Communism where 1% of the people have 99% of the money and 99% of the people are expected to equally share (communism) the other 1% of the money. Unfortunately, there are people in the 1% incomed who are striving to join in with the economic elite and driving more and more people in our country further and further into the stress of poverty, which is burdening our police forces, our humanitarian resources and creating 99% of all of our problems. Which brings me to Sarah Palin implying that President Obama is somehow responsible for her personal problems. I have an ex-marine friend who just stopped by and I told him what she had said and he replied,"That's Crazy!" Soldiers have been coming home from war with various problems since the beginning of time. Alcohol overuse is one of the major ones! It has absolutely nothing to do with who our President is. It is a matter of personal responsibility and she has obviously not been very responsible toward her own. My Marine friend and I had to laugh when I told him that she will probably be flying around in her helicopter now shooting stray dogs and cats for her stress relief. Very sad actually...Where do these people get these delusional ideas anyway? And, now Trump claims that he's making a stand for Jesus. Get flippin' serious!!! If he were to read that dust covered New Testament that's been sitting on his mantle for ages, he would immediately call the Pope and schedule himself an EXORCISM!...
I hate to defend Sarah Palin, but it is not HER responsibility to take care of her son's PTSD. It should be the duty of the U.S. Government to be responsible for the mental and physical health of our brave military men and women when they come home. The U.S. Government is pathetic on the record for their "care" of its military men and women. PTSD is not a thing to laugh about and you and your marine friend should know that. I have complex PTSD and it is a life debilitating condition. I have known many veterans from many wars and they live with it everyday. I don't think it is funny at all. And I have even known one that shot his own dogs he became so dysfuctional. Many who have it victimize others because they never received proper treatment to readjust to society. Making jokes about PTSD is not appropriate. I never laugh about it.
We weren't laughing about anyone's problems. We were laughing about people who blame everyone else for their problems without attempting to do anything at all for themselves. My friend also has PTSD, but he doesn't sit around and whine about it, and blame everyone else...for it.
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^^ As long as your friend, and other veterans, are getting proper treatment for PTSD, which should be free and comprehensive by the U.S. government, and is not harming others that is great. Any ex military or current military who have PTSD should get help and not take out their aggressions on others. I have CPTSD from an ex military person who never got help. Then he employed other ex military to repeatedly follow me around the country and revictimize me. When ex military cannot readjust to society they take jobs from psychopathic opportunists with money who exploit their condition. Then they suffer even more dire consequences. I have seen it for 28 years now. They come and go. No one comes out a winner. Never see one yet. So the moral to the story is if my ex fiancée had gotten proper psychological help hundreds, maybe even thousands of people would not have had their lives destroyed. It is a domino effect. The U.S. government is responsible for what they create and let out in society.
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Feds investigating what could be one of the biggest frauds in history! Premier work program for disabled people. http://cnn.it/1RW4G7j Taxpayer money being misused.
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Are there any honest conservatives willing to explain to me what the actual deal is with Sarah Palin? I mean, is it just that she's a Republican and anything a Republican says is good no matter how incoherent it may be, or are you secretly embarrassed by her and unwilling to show weakness by admitting it?
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Australia has had no mass shootings since tightening its gun control laws 20 years ago.
The mainland states tightened gun control even earlier. Tasmania was the weak link. Guess where the last mass shooting was that prompted national gun laws? So aside from that, it's closer to 30 years.
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paulfan11:
audi:
[Secular Talk] Bill O'Reilly Is Leaving America If Bernie Sanders Wins:
Yes to Ireland where they have national healthcare and very strict gun laws
audi:
Exactly! LOL!
I think Mr. Bill O. has planned it that way!! He is probably secretly voting for Bernie!!
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hey_kittay:
^^ As long as your friend, and other veterans, are getting proper treatment for PTSD, which should be free and comprehensive by the U.S. government, and is not harming others that is great. Any ex military or current military who have PTSD should get help and not take out their aggressions on others. I have CPTSD from an ex military person who never got help. Then he employed other ex military to repeatedly follow me around the country and revictimize me. When ex military cannot readjust to society they take jobs from psychopathic opportunists with money who exploit their condition. Then they suffer even more dire consequences. I have seen it for 28 years now. They come and go. No one comes out a winner. Never see one yet. So the moral to the story is if my ex fiancée had gotten proper psychological help hundreds, maybe even thousands of people would not have had their lives destroyed. It is a domino effect. The U.S. government is responsible for what they create and let out in society.
Kittay, I honestly don't think SurSteven and his friend were laughing at the PTSD issues of our vets, I believe they were talking about Sarah Palin's absurdness in only blaming President Obama for what her son did to his girlfriend.
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When I heard that Sarah Palin endorsed Trump, my first thought was, who cares? What possible difference can that make?
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paulfan11:
hey_kittay:
^^ As long as your friend, and other veterans, are getting proper treatment for PTSD, which should be free and comprehensive by the U.S. government, and is not harming others that is great. Any ex military or current military who have PTSD should get help and not take out their aggressions on others. I have CPTSD from an ex military person who never got help. Then he employed other ex military to repeatedly follow me around the country and revictimize me. When ex military cannot readjust to society they take jobs from psychopathic opportunists with money who exploit their condition. Then they suffer even more dire consequences. I have seen it for 28 years now. They come and go. No one comes out a winner. Never see one yet. So the moral to the story is if my ex fiancée had gotten proper psychological help hundreds, maybe even thousands of people would not have had their lives destroyed. It is a domino effect. The U.S. government is responsible for what they create and let out in society.
Kittay, I honestly don't think SurSteven and his friend were laughing at the PTSD issues of our vets, I believe they were talking about Sarah Palin's absurdness in only blaming President Obama for what her son did to his girlfriend.
I understand what you mean. Steve was saying they laughed and thinks Sarah Palin "wasn't taking care of her own." I was simply saying that the families of U S veterans should not be negatively affected in their personal lives by being the primary persons responsible for the caregiving of veterans when they come home. The U.S. Government should have much better Veterans Hospitals and long term care. Not just discharge them with psychological or physical injuries for the families, if they have a family, to have to be burdened with financial and emotionally and physically. If the military wants to start wars or finish wars they need to take 100% care of all veterans. That is all I was pointing out. There are too many injured vets who can't joke about this situation as they are dead or incapacitated.
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HaileyMcComet:
When I heard that Sarah Palin endorsed Trump, my first thought was, who cares? What possible difference can that make?
I thought of Saturday Night Live skit from a long time ago ..... http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/cold-opening---john-kerry/n11792 The way John Kerry tries to brush him away .... Now insert Donald Trump getting a call from Sarah Palin to endorse him .... but instead he accepted her endorsement ..... It would have made for a good updated skit
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I LOVE Tina Fey's impression of Sarah Palin! She was even better than Sarah, and I would vote for Tina!
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HaileyMcComet:
When I heard that Sarah Palin endorsed Trump, my first thought was, who cares? What possible difference can that make?
It means SNL is about to get ratings again
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SurSteven:
Which brings me to Sarah Palin implying that President Obama is somehow responsible for her personal problems. I have an ex-marine friend who just stopped by and I told him what she had said and he replied,"That's Crazy!" Soldiers have been coming home from war with various problems since the beginning of time. Alcohol overuse is one of the major ones! It has absolutely nothing to do with who our President is. It is a matter of personal responsibility and she has obviously not been very responsible toward her own. My Marine friend and I had to laugh when I told him that she will probably be flying around in her helicopter now shooting stray dogs and cats for her stress relief. Very sad actually...Where do these people get these delusional ideas anyway?
hey_kittay:
I hate to defend Sarah Palin, but it is not HER responsibility to take care of her son's PTSD.
SurSteven:
We weren't laughing about anyone's problems. We were laughing about people who blame everyone else for their problems without attempting to do anything at all for themselves. My friend also has PTSD, but he doesn't sit around and whine about it, and blame everyone else...for it.
hey_kittay:
As long as your friend, and other veterans, are getting proper treatment for PTSD, which should be free and comprehensive by the U.S. government, and is not harming others that is great. Any ex military or current military who have PTSD should get help and not take out their aggressions on others.
(After being beaten) I wonder what Sarah's Son's Girlfriend thinks about them being let off the hook for not needing to be responsible in their lives?
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^^ unfortunately the poor girl is probably thinking the same things I was thinking. "Why do rich people get off with committing crimes against women and other things, and lower income people have to pay the price?" Hopefully she will stay away from him so she won't end up like I did. And the U.S. government will have adequate medical care for veterans.
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I like Senator Bernie Sanders more than any other candidate. I just realized this tonight.
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The_Fool:
I thought of Saturday Night Live skit from a long time ago ..... http://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/cold-opening---john-kerry/n11792 The way John Kerry tries to brush him away .... Now insert Donald Trump getting a call from Sarah Palin to endorse him .... but instead he accepted her endorsement ..... It would have made for a good updated skit
That sounds like it could be a funny idea.
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KingMacca:
It means SNL is about to get ratings again
They're so lucky that Tina Fey left the show on good terms.
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TrumpleFrumple is not going to The Fox News Debates because he's afraid to talk to Megyn Kelly. Or, should I say Trumporist??? http://redalertpolitics.com/2016/01/27/terrorizations-fox-news-says-trump-campaign-threatened-megyn-kelly/
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It would seem to me certain agencies of law enforcement would have learned to de escalate situations like the one in Oregon after Waco and Ruby Ridge. I guess not.
Peace and Love.