Petition to get Wings in R&R HOF
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Nancy R:
What do the fans who were too young for the Beatles, and then discovered Paul & Wings at a young age think? In other words, they were not Beatles fans first and only found out about them through being a Wings fan in the early to mid '70's. (I don't qualify)
I am of the age where my real consciousness of Paul's music as a Beatle and also solo / Wings happened pretty well simultaneously. This was the very early 70's. Paul's first solo hit's Another Day and Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey and also Maybe I'm Amazed were on the radio as well as the later Beatles hits. I remember playing records on a juke box in a milk bar and it was mostly Beatles and solo Beatles records and the guy behind the counter shouted 'hey play something besides the bloody Beatles' and I answered 'I am I'm playing Paul McCartney'. He said 'same thing' . I loved those early 70's days solo Beatle songs were all over the radio and juke boxes as well as The Beatles of course. What a time!
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JoeySmith:
O.K. I'm starting to see your point. Let's take CCR for example. Basically, the band was all John Fogerty, but all member were inducted. Is that what you're arguing?
Most bands are dominated by one individual,either because the individual was more famous or if viewed retrospectively, became more famous. But that shouldn't take away the importance of the other members of a band or the band as a whole.
JoeySmith:
But, Paul solo induction took into account Wings, didnt it? Can they now honor Wings and say it was distinct from Paul's solo career?
I'm sure you are right and they probably did just lump in Paul's work with Wings with his own solo recordings. Paul himself hasn't helped matters by,for instance,combining solo and Wings material onto compilation albums ie Wings Greatest, which featured Another Day. Its not really surprising that people not familiar with his career cannot distinguish the difference between a solo recording and a Wings recording.
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Nancy R:
What do the fans who were too young for the Beatles, and then discovered Paul & Wings at a young age think?
I discovered Wings in 1973 and not having any previous interest in music,Wings were just Wings. When I purchased Live And Let Die, I had no idea who were in the group. And I still didn't know when I purchased Helen Wheels a few months later. It was only gradually during the following year I began to find out more about the members, and started to buy up earlier Wings and solo McCartney releases. I also started to buy Beatles records (once I knew Paul was in the Beatles) but at the same time I was also buying the debut albums by the Moody Blues and Thunderclap Newman, because Denny Laine and Jimmy McCulloch played on them. In fact I bought Denny Laine's debut album before I bought Paul's debut album. For me there was no distinction and I was just buying anything related to the members of Wings because I was a Wings fan. And I still am and I still put Wings before Paul's solo career or the Beatles or Denny Laine's solo career.
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Apollo C. Vermouth:
Nancy R:
What do the fans who were too young for the Beatles, and then discovered Paul & Wings at a young age think? In other words, they were not Beatles fans first and only found out about them through being a Wings fan in the early to mid '70's. (I don't qualify)
I am of the age where my real consciousness of Paul's music as a Beatle and also solo / Wings happened pretty well simultaneously. This was the very early 70's. Paul's first solo hit's Another Day and Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey and also Maybe I'm Amazed were on the radio as well as the later Beatles hits. I remember playing records on a juke box in a milk bar and it was mostly Beatles and solo Beatles records and the guy behind the counter shouted 'hey play something besides the bloody Beatles' and I answered 'I am I'm playing Paul McCartney'. He said 'same thing' . I loved those early 70's days solo Beatle songs were all over the radio and juke boxes as well as The Beatles of course. What a time!
A milk bar!..... Love that..... Typically Australian.... With a Sunny Boy or a Razz..... 20 cents of mixed lollies....I'm a second generation Beatles fan, one that outgrew the beautiful Mother (who was there at Southern Cross in 1964), and whilst I love Wings, I cannot see any individual band member of Wings being worthy of admission..... should the band be admitted?..... well, let's face it, with the odd exception, they essentially were a backup band..... but it was a great name for a band. And I love the era. I love Wings Over America, their peak. But, it was always Paul.
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Someone's already said it, but Paul WAS Wings, and he's already in
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Martin Luther:
Someone's already said it, but Paul WAS Wings, and he's already in
Yup - and to further this point, Wings is the biggest reason why post Beatles Paul should be in the HOF. We may think his music since has been great (I know I do)....but general music fans speak louder as his sales and airplay has diminished ever since...I can't possibly see how anyone can regard Paul's current inclusion being 'wingless'...if any change was made, it would be more appropriate to change Paul's current induction status to Wings (although I think the general name 'Paul McCartney' works better since it can include some of his more successful fully solo moments)
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toris:
Apollo C. Vermouth:
Nancy R:
What do the fans who were too young for the Beatles, and then discovered Paul & Wings at a young age think? In other words, they were not Beatles fans first and only found out about them through being a Wings fan in the early to mid '70's. (I don't qualify)
I am of the age where my real consciousness of Paul's music as a Beatle and also solo / Wings happened pretty well simultaneously. This was the very early 70's. Paul's first solo hit's Another Day and Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey and also Maybe I'm Amazed were on the radio as well as the later Beatles hits. I remember playing records on a juke box in a milk bar and it was mostly Beatles and solo Beatles records and the guy behind the counter shouted 'hey play something besides the bloody Beatles' and I answered 'I am I'm playing Paul McCartney'. He said 'same thing' . I loved those early 70's days solo Beatle songs were all over the radio and juke boxes as well as The Beatles of course. What a time!
A milk bar!..... Love that..... Typically Australian.... With a Sunny Boy or a Razz..... 20 cents of mixed lollies....I'm a second generation Beatles fan, one that outgrew the beautiful Mother (who was there at Southern Cross in 1964), and whilst I love Wings, I cannot see any individual band member of Wings being worthy of admission..... should the band be admitted?..... well, let's face it, with the odd exception, they essentially were a backup band..... but it was a great name for a band. And I love the era. I love Wings Over America, their peak. But, it was always Paul.
I remember Sunny Boys and Razz. Flavoured ice blocks in a kind of pyramid shape. I liked the cola ones I think they were called Glugs. Still think Wings is worthy of a HOF place in there own right. But I guess it wont ever happen for the two obvious reasons people have pointed out . Right or wrong they were always considered Paul's backing band and the unstable lineup. The thing is lots of bands were dominated by one member while members changed periodically like Dire Straits - Mark Knopfler & ELO - Jeff Lynne but the music they produced is still known by the collective name.
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Wings, as a 'functioning unit' (line-up changes are irrelevant) were together for 10 years, and were massively popular, outselling The Beatles during their time together. Huge selling albums and singles, especially in America. On that basis, of course they deserve to be in the Hall Of Fame, but if they don't get in it doesn't make them any less relevant in popular music history, unless of course you wish to re-write history.
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ewanme:
Wings, as a 'functioning unit' (line-up changes are irrelevant) were together for 10 years, and were massively popular, outselling The Beatles during their time together. Huge selling albums and singles, especially in America. On that basis, of course they deserve to be in the Hall Of Fame, but if they don't get in it doesn't make them any less relevant in popular music history, unless of course you wish to re-write history.
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Apollo C. Vermouth:
toris:
Apollo C. Vermouth:
Nancy R:
What do the fans who were too young for the Beatles, and then discovered Paul & Wings at a young age think? In other words, they were not Beatles fans first and only found out about them through being a Wings fan in the early to mid '70's. (I don't qualify)
I am of the age where my real consciousness of Paul's music as a Beatle and also solo / Wings happened pretty well simultaneously. This was the very early 70's. Paul's first solo hit's Another Day and Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey and also Maybe I'm Amazed were on the radio as well as the later Beatles hits. I remember playing records on a juke box in a milk bar and it was mostly Beatles and solo Beatles records and the guy behind the counter shouted 'hey play something besides the bloody Beatles' and I answered 'I am I'm playing Paul McCartney'. He said 'same thing' . I loved those early 70's days solo Beatle songs were all over the radio and juke boxes as well as The Beatles of course. What a time!
A milk bar!..... Love that..... Typically Australian.... With a Sunny Boy or a Razz..... 20 cents of mixed lollies....I'm a second generation Beatles fan, one that outgrew the beautiful Mother (who was there at Southern Cross in 1964), and whilst I love Wings, I cannot see any individual band member of Wings being worthy of admission..... should the band be admitted?..... well, let's face it, with the odd exception, they essentially were a backup band..... but it was a great name for a band. And I love the era. I love Wings Over America, their peak. But, it was always Paul.
I remember Sunny Boys and Razz. Flavoured ice blocks in a kind of pyramid shape. I liked the cola ones I think they were called Glugs. Still think Wings is worthy of a HOF place in there own right. But I guess it wont ever happen for the two obvious reasons people have pointed out . Right or wrong they were always considered Paul's backing band and the unstable lineup. The thing is lots of bands were dominated by one member while members changed periodically like Dire Straits - Mark Knopfler & ELO - Jeff Lynne but the music they produced is still known by the collective name.
I have absolutely NO idea about any of that stuff in your first sentence! But the rest? Valid points!
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The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame still exists?
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HaileyMcComet:
The Rock & Roll Hall of Fame still exists?
Hardy har har! Where you been Hailey? You haven't been around lately.
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Pure McCartney has a fair proportion of Wings tracks on it, but not a single reference to Wings anywhere on the back or front cover. Another nail in the coffin of the idea they were a real band??
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illwobble:
Pure McCartney has a fair proportion of Wings tracks on it, but not a single reference to Wings anywhere on the back or front cover. Another nail in the coffin of the idea they were a real band??
'Wings Greatest' 1978 'Wingspan' 2001
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ewanme:
illwobble:
Pure McCartney has a fair proportion of Wings tracks on it, but not a single reference to Wings anywhere on the back or front cover. Another nail in the coffin of the idea they were a real band??
'Wings Greatest' 1978 'Wingspan' 2001
Not sure what your point is. But in 2001 a compilation that was NOT all Wings was branded as Wings, and now this compilation including plenty of Wings is branded just as McCartney, with no ref to them on the cover or anything.
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illwobble:
ewanme:
illwobble:
Pure McCartney has a fair proportion of Wings tracks on it, but not a single reference to Wings anywhere on the back or front cover. Another nail in the coffin of the idea they were a real band??
'Wings Greatest' 1978 'Wingspan' 2001
Not sure what your point is. But in 2001 a compilation that was NOT all Wings was branded as Wings, and now this compilation including plenty of Wings is branded just as McCartney, with no ref to them on the cover or anything.
The titles recognised that Wings were a real band.
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Nancy R:
Hardy har har! Where you been Hailey? You haven't been around lately.
I went to Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, the Dead Sea, Jericho and Taipei. One of those doesn't belong with the others, but that's the way life works.
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HaileyMcComet:
Nancy R:
Hardy har har! Where you been Hailey? You haven't been around lately.
I went to Jerusalem, Tel Aviv, the Dead Sea, Jericho and Taipei. One of those doesn't belong with the others, but that's the way life works.
Wow! Quite a trip! Business or pleasure? Or both?
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I think Wings should get in. Why not? All other bands seems to be getting in these days. I'd say "Let Em In" LOL
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maccasfangirl30:
I think Wings should get in. Why not? All other bands seems to be getting in these days. I'd say "Let Em In" LOL