THE GLOBAL WINGS THREAD
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vlivantje:
And here you go....and yes, Gary, I listened to YOUR version as well. Here's "Paul's most neurotic song" according to Artie. [I Am A Rock[/size">](http://rapidshare.com/files/314946254/IAmARock.mp3]<span style=) (click to download) You'll see what I mean with having to sing in two octaves...the part of "gazing from my window..." should have been a lot lower but that seriously hurt my throat. And I capo'ed it on the 7th fret already.
Sterling effort, and remarkable how you intertwined the octaves here to get the song comfortable to sing. The song "rocks" ahem!! Nice sound also on the guitar, and very good playing there! Yet another Simon song for the next album. And yes, vicious, neurotic lyric if ever I heard one!
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21st Century Paul:
blondie10:
and My LAST comment for the night. what's the big deal about autotune???? It makes my car run great!! g'night ya'll
my english is not good enough to get your joke auto-tune will go as it came... just like... electric drums... those ones on the 80s... I like that Jay-Z's 2009 single is called "D.O.A." Death of Auto-tune
I don't mind people doing auto-tune at all, it only bothers when some producer does it to some singer I like... cause it simply spoils the performance. We're getting to a point when lives performances seem better than studio ones. I don't know if Jay-Z is responsible but I'm glad they don't autotune BeyonceI don't think subtle pitch shifting will ever die. The "Cher" effect may well go, but pitch correction and shifting is here to stay - and why not - even the Beatles used pitch shifting. If, after 30 takes or so, they sang a not flat or sharp, that particular piece of tape was cut, speeded up or slowed down, and edited back in. The principle is the same. When I'm 64, and Here There and Everywhere were speeded up nearly a semitone to make Paul's voice sound more in tune and younger. Plus, the Beach Boys did it all the time.
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21st Century Paul:
EpiphoneCasino:
Bjorn Karlsson:
OK, here is a couple of "new" tracks, first is a weird arrangement, it is a cover of two songs, with me playing Ukulele and singing. The original is from Hawaiian guy called Israel Kamakawiwo'ole that died in 1997, and his original is fantastic. When I heard the song I just wanted to grab my Uke and give it a try, did the recording very quick! Here ya go! OVER THE RAINBOW/WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD DOWNLOAD: http://rapidshare.com/files/314450739/Over_The_Rainbow-What_a_Wonderful_World_-_Bjorn_-_Global_Wings.mp3 LISTEN: http://www.reverbnation.com/tunepak/2069822 Song nr 2 is an "oldie"! I already did a remix of this song a long way back, and now I played with some software synths to try to do a new one. The basic track is my piano that I used a synth to change the sound completely, then there is a bass and drums, and some VERY altered vocals, it is not for the auto-tune-haters , I tried to do it very modern, almost Cher-ish, just for the fun of it, hope you'll cherish the recording! See it as my Fireman-try! C'MON PEOPLE REMIX 2009 DOWNLOAD: http://rapidshare.com/files/314450508/C_mon_People_2009_-_Bjorn_-_Global_Wings.mp3
Over the Rainbow is great, and astonishing as you know!! I like the experimental mixes you come up with. Nothing wrong with messing, and you did a great job on C'Mon People. I often laugh at people who say "John would turn in his grave" with the use of technology these days. I disagree totally, John would LOVE this type of stuff. He and Paul have always been "cutting edge".
knowing John he would use the weirdest possible things see Tomorrow Never Knows... About vocals, he never ever liked his voice as it was and always asked to George Martin to add anything, "ketchup, whatever" Paul and John tried then things that what no-one used... but also didn't use things that everyone used... they simply were different from anything, today they would be different from anything there is today too...
John also invented and christened the "flanging" effect. He found that if he had two tape decks playing exactly the same thing, he could get a weird phasing effect by pressing down on the "flange" of one of the tapes that were playing. Flange my vocal George!! From ever onwards, it is called "flanging".
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HERE is an experiment!! When Bjorn posted his wonderful "OVER THE RAINBOW" song, complete with UKE, I was taken aback because I had done the very same song a different way 6 months ago. I never posted it though - it was just for fun. BUT, then I got thinking - would Bjorn's version fit together with my version (originally a UK number 1 for Cliff Richard). I laid out the tracks, and it was almost like the Strawberry Fields recording. My version ran at 87 bpm, and Bjorns ran at 85bpm...BUT...they were in the same key, and identical in nearly every other way. Thus, through time stretching, cutting up vocals, quantising the ukele, and using virtually every techno tool out there, I managed to fit it all together. Here it is - a very modern recording, and a polar opposite of Bjorns sweet, simple original. SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW/WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD BJORN & GARY'S VERSION LISTEN http://www.reverbnation.com/tunepak/song_2912827 DOWNLOAD (HIGH QUALITY) http://www.snapdrive.net/files/492294/Over%20The%20Rainbow%2C%20Wonderful%20World.mp3
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vlivantje:
And here you go....and yes, Gary, I listened to YOUR version as well. Here's "Paul's most neurotic song" according to Artie. [I Am A Rock[/size">](http://rapidshare.com/files/314946254/IAmARock.mp3]<span style=) (click to download) You'll see what I mean with having to sing in two octaves...the part of "gazing from my window..." should have been a lot lower but that seriously hurt my throat. And I capo'ed it on the 7th fret already.
Well, if you had made all the song higher, then the "gazing from my window" would not so low, just like happened in BOTW, just higher and higher till you like how you sing it... I guess. Anyway I like it this way, you singing it differently brings something new to song. Very often I just don't know in which range should I sing I song, especially my songs. One octave higher, one octave lower... I just don't know, especially the weird ones, I think I should accept that... if a song it's weird... no matter how I sing it... it's gonna remain weird...
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vlivantje:
Here's the headless video for I Am A Rock! (newly recorded this afternoon)
Someone stop me, I just can't seem to stop playing guitar these days :...now I've already "test-recorded" a McCartney song...I mean, I gotta celebrate the fact that I'm going to see him again in a week, don't I? Will try to record this properly next weekend.congratulations for seeing Paul... if you're close to him, sing him "we love you yeah yeah yeah", maybe he'll answer back... somebody stop me too, I use to think... I must record... Hammer To Fall, then it's As Time Goes By, then it's Who Wants To Forever... then are my songs... but as I'm never happy with my songs recordings... PS I won't never play chords like that cause my fingertips (not my fingers) are too big.. maybe if they build bigger guitars someday... if I play the A chord I must use 2 fingers or 1 instead of 3.
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EpiphoneCasino:
21st Century Paul:
blondie10:
and My LAST comment for the night. what's the big deal about autotune???? It makes my car run great!! g'night ya'll
my english is not good enough to get your joke auto-tune will go as it came... just like... electric drums... those ones on the 80s... I like that Jay-Z's 2009 single is called "D.O.A." Death of Auto-tune
I don't mind people doing auto-tune at all, it only bothers when some producer does it to some singer I like... cause it simply spoils the performance. We're getting to a point when lives performances seem better than studio ones. I don't know if Jay-Z is responsible but I'm glad they don't autotune BeyonceI don't think subtle pitch shifting will ever die. The "Cher" effect may well go, but pitch correction and shifting is here to stay - and why not - even the Beatles used pitch shifting. If, after 30 takes or so, they sang a not flat or sharp, that particular piece of tape was cut, speeded up or slowed down, and edited back in. The principle is the same. When I'm 64, and Here There and Everywhere were speeded up nearly a semitone to make Paul's voice sound more in tune and younger. Plus, the Beach Boys did it all the time.
ok, but how many people think that When I'm 64 or Here there and everywhere are amongst Paul best vocals for the Beatles?... I think doing that is spoling the performance... If it's only 2 o 3 notes... maybe it's not so important... one just forget about those 3 little notes... like in that Elvis remix. the problem for me is when they do it when all the recording or half the recording... I understand with people that are not great singers... nobody cares much about their vocals, but if you do it to great singers you make them sound "ordinary", and fake and empty... and if they're great singers is just because they don't sound "empty". I mean doing that to Lennon, McCartney, Elvis, Mercury, Bono or others like that doesn't make sense. Fortunately someone will keep the masters to "un-autotune" someday... and, fortunately too, today with youtube we can hear live performances very easily.
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21st Century Paul:
Well, if you had made all the song higher, then the "gazing from my window" would not so low, just like happened in BOTW, just higher and higher till you like how you sing it... I guess. Anyway I like it this way, you singing it differently brings something new to song. Very often I just don't know in which range should I sing I song, especially my songs. One octave higher, one octave lower... I just don't know, especially the weird ones, I think I should accept that... if a song it's weird... no matter how I sing it... it's gonna remain weird...
Believe me I tried, Oliver, but I already capo'ed my guitar on the 7th fret. I also tuned down a LOT and tried it that way, but the low guitar playing didn't sound good. Basically I tried all possible ways between capo on fret 1 and 7. And to capo it even higher...then it's getting difficult to actually form the chords on the little frets. So this is the best I could do, but it's okay, I like it this way.
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EpiphoneCasino:
Sterling effort, and remarkable how you intertwined the octaves here to get the song comfortable to sing. The song "rocks" ahem!! Nice sound also on the guitar, and very good playing there! Yet another Simon song for the next album. And yes, vicious, neurotic lyric if ever I heard one!
Thanks Gary...there's one more S&G song waiting to be posted....and then the McCartney one that I'm planning on recording this weekend, but after that I really need to take a break from all the guitar playing!
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21st Century Paul:
PS I won't never play chords like that cause my fingertips (not my fingers) are too big.. maybe if they build bigger guitars someday... if I play the A chord I must use 2 fingers or 1 instead of 3.
Yes, that is what I meant with the little frets in my case....impossible to form chords anymore, even with my small fingers!
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EpiphoneCasino:
21st Century Paul:
EpiphoneCasino:
Bjorn Karlsson:
OK, here is a couple of "new" tracks, first is a weird arrangement, it is a cover of two songs, with me playing Ukulele and singing. The original is from Hawaiian guy called Israel Kamakawiwo'ole that died in 1997, and his original is fantastic. When I heard the song I just wanted to grab my Uke and give it a try, did the recording very quick! Here ya go! OVER THE RAINBOW/WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD DOWNLOAD: http://rapidshare.com/files/314450739/Over_The_Rainbow-What_a_Wonderful_World_-_Bjorn_-_Global_Wings.mp3 LISTEN: http://www.reverbnation.com/tunepak/2069822 Song nr 2 is an "oldie"! I already did a remix of this song a long way back, and now I played with some software synths to try to do a new one. The basic track is my piano that I used a synth to change the sound completely, then there is a bass and drums, and some VERY altered vocals, it is not for the auto-tune-haters , I tried to do it very modern, almost Cher-ish, just for the fun of it, hope you'll cherish the recording! See it as my Fireman-try! C'MON PEOPLE REMIX 2009 DOWNLOAD: http://rapidshare.com/files/314450508/C_mon_People_2009_-_Bjorn_-_Global_Wings.mp3
Over the Rainbow is great, and astonishing as you know!! I like the experimental mixes you come up with. Nothing wrong with messing, and you did a great job on C'Mon People. I often laugh at people who say "John would turn in his grave" with the use of technology these days. I disagree totally, John would LOVE this type of stuff. He and Paul have always been "cutting edge".
knowing John he would use the weirdest possible things see Tomorrow Never Knows... About vocals, he never ever liked his voice as it was and always asked to George Martin to add anything, "ketchup, whatever" Paul and John tried then things that what no-one used... but also didn't use things that everyone used... they simply were different from anything, today they would be different from anything there is today too...
John also invented and christened the "flanging" effect. He found that if he had two tape decks playing exactly the same thing, he could get a weird phasing effect by pressing down on the "flange" of one of the tapes that were playing. Flange my vocal George!! From ever onwards, it is called "flanging".
the Beatles invented so many things that people simply doesn't believe them when you tell them (it's kind of like Edison)
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EpiphoneCasino:
HERE is an experiment!! When Bjorn posted his wonderful "OVER THE RAINBOW" song, complete with UKE, I was taken aback because I had done the very same song a different way 6 months ago. I never posted it though - it was just for fun. BUT, then I got thinking - would Bjorn's version fit together with my version (originally a UK number 1 for Cliff Richard). I laid out the tracks, and it was almost like the Strawberry Fields recording. My version ran at 87 bpm, and Bjorns ran at 85bpm...BUT...they were in the same key, and identical in nearly every other way. Thus, through time stretching, cutting up vocals, quantising the ukele, and using virtually every techno tool out there, I managed to fit it all together. Here it is - a very modern recording, and a polar opposite of Bjorns sweet, simple original. SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW/WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD BJORN & GARY'S VERSION LISTEN http://www.reverbnation.com/tunepak/song_2912827 DOWNLOAD (HIGH QUALITY) http://www.snapdrive.net/files/492294/Over%20The%20Rainbow%2C%20Wonderful%20World.mp3
a-ha! an "impossible duet" great
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EpiphoneCasino:
HERE is an experiment!! When Bjorn posted his wonderful "OVER THE RAINBOW" song, complete with UKE, I was taken aback because I had done the very same song a different way 6 months ago. I never posted it though - it was just for fun. BUT, then I got thinking - would Bjorn's version fit together with my version (originally a UK number 1 for Cliff Richard). I laid out the tracks, and it was almost like the Strawberry Fields recording. My version ran at 87 bpm, and Bjorns ran at 85bpm...BUT...they were in the same key, and identical in nearly every other way. Thus, through time stretching, cutting up vocals, quantising the ukele, and using virtually every techno tool out there, I managed to fit it all together. Here it is - a very modern recording, and a polar opposite of Bjorns sweet, simple original. SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW/WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD BJORN & GARY'S VERSION LISTEN http://www.reverbnation.com/tunepak/song_2912827 DOWNLOAD (HIGH QUALITY) http://www.snapdrive.net/files/492294/Over%20The%20Rainbow%2C%20Wonderful%20World.mp3
AMAZING!!!!! I love Over The Rainbow so much. And What A Wonderful World was the first, I repeat, the VERY first song I ever learned to play in chords. When I was 12 I took an afternoon course in chords (I had only played classical guitar before that) with one of the teachers in junior high, and if it wasn't for that course in basic chords, I would have never become a Beatlesfan, probably.
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vlivantje:
21st Century Paul:
Well, if you had made all the song higher, then the "gazing from my window" would not so low, just like happened in BOTW, just higher and higher till you like how you sing it... I guess. Anyway I like it this way, you singing it differently brings something new to song. Very often I just don't know in which range should I sing I song, especially my songs. One octave higher, one octave lower... I just don't know, especially the weird ones, I think I should accept that... if a song it's weird... no matter how I sing it... it's gonna remain weird...
Believe me I tried, Oliver, but I already capo'ed my guitar on the 7th fret. I also tuned down a LOT and tried it that way, but the low guitar playing didn't sound good. Basically I tried all possible ways between capo on fret 1 and 7. And to capo it even higher...then it's getting difficult to actually form the chords on the little frets. So this is the best I could do, but it's okay, I like it this way.
oh I see, I was missing something... I was missing playing the chords in those frets... And what if you record it in the normal key with the guitar... and then change the pitch of the recording with Audacity or anything...
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vlivantje:
21st Century Paul:
PS I won't never play chords like that cause my fingertips (not my fingers) are too big.. maybe if they build bigger guitars someday... if I play the A chord I must use 2 fingers or 1 instead of 3.
Yes, that is what I meant with the little frets in my case....impossible to form chords anymore, even with my small fingers!
it happens to me in the bigger frets too... you won't see me learning to play Simon and Garfunkel songs or Paul ones on the ac guitar... Sometimes I've tried in that strange way, using one finger for several strings... till I thought "what the heck I'm doing?" or so it seemed very rude to play like that. Anyway for any reason the acoustic guitar only interested me when I was a kid. Playing the blues Are you ready to rock?
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vlivantje:
21st Century Paul:
PS I won't never play chords like that cause my fingertips (not my fingers) are too big.. maybe if they build bigger guitars someday... if I play the A chord I must use 2 fingers or 1 instead of 3.
Yes, that is what I meant with the little frets in my case....impossible to form chords anymore, even with my small fingers!
hey, I have small fingers really, piano player type... it's only my fingertips... though people don't understand this... well... you could also do like I did... playing those chords in small frets using the same finger for several strings... it's weird, I know... but it can work
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HERE'S A VERY QUICKLY DONE PAUL McCARTNEY SONG back to basics! TWO VOCAL TAKES...so it's a bit rough in parts... FROM A LOVER TO A FRIEND LISTEN http://www.reverbnation.com/tunepak/song_2914523 DOWNLOAD http://www.snapdrive.net/files/492294/From%20A%20Lover%20To%20A%20Friend.mp3
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21st Century Paul:
oh I see, I was missing something... I was missing playing the chords in those frets... And what if you record it in the normal key with the guitar... and then change the pitch of the recording with Audacity or anything...
Ah, no....I'm not going to start changing pitches on guitar work...it was bad enough that I had to change the pitch on your piano track for Bridge, but I did not enjoy doing that. ops: The natural sound is better.
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EpiphoneCasino:
HERE is an experiment!! When Bjorn posted his wonderful "OVER THE RAINBOW" song, complete with UKE, I was taken aback because I had done the very same song a different way 6 months ago. I never posted it though - it was just for fun. BUT, then I got thinking - would Bjorn's version fit together with my version (originally a UK number 1 for Cliff Richard). I laid out the tracks, and it was almost like the Strawberry Fields recording. My version ran at 87 bpm, and Bjorns ran at 85bpm...BUT...they were in the same key, and identical in nearly every other way. Thus, through time stretching, cutting up vocals, quantising the ukele, and using virtually every techno tool out there, I managed to fit it all together. Here it is - a very modern recording, and a polar opposite of Bjorns sweet, simple original. SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW/WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD BJORN & GARY'S VERSION LISTEN http://www.reverbnation.com/tunepak/song_2912827 DOWNLOAD (HIGH QUALITY) http://www.snapdrive.net/files/492294/Over%20The%20Rainbow%2C%20Wonderful%20World.mp3
Oh, that is magic! AND let me add, I had NO clue the other version existed whatsoever, had only listened to the uke version, and did a fair try of that! You lay a nice puzzle there, and I am so amazed how the hell I could sing that and it was like it was intended to be put into your version!! Sounds totally as we did the song like this from the beginning! Really great work! Cool to have two great versions of those songs, two amazing classics(the original songs I mean!)!
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21st Century Paul:
EpiphoneCasino:
SOMEWHERE OVER THE RAINBOW/WHAT A WONDERFUL WORLD BJORN & GARY'S VERSION LISTEN http://www.reverbnation.com/tunepak/song_2912827 DOWNLOAD (HIGH QUALITY) http://www.snapdrive.net/files/492294/Over%20The%20Rainbow%2C%20Wonderful%20World.mp3
a-ha! an "impossible duet" great
The impossible is just beyond me this time , I sang this song "blindfolded"! If I'd heard that other version before, I'd sing trying very carefully to get it to fit with that, this was just me singing freely..SO...WOW, yes, I am puzzled right now!