I have a confession to make...and I'm not holding back here, so if you're easily offended, might want to click out.
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oobu24 wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
How much input does Paul get, especially picking those from the nosebleed section who get to sit in the front row? Those always turn out to be young, cute couples. (I've personally witnessed this 3 times as I was seated behind them in row 3 or 4)
I think that during the break before the encore, he must tell his security guy if he wants someone to come up and who. (tells him what their sign says) In the past, and especially at stadium concerts, I think security just picked them during soundcheck. Personally, my opinion is that he never should have started this trend. I remember the "good old days" where no posters were allowed. Everybody was happy and no one went home disappointed because they didn't get picked!
Couples picked for the front row? Whenever I've been up close... rows 2,3 or 4, I've just seen girls. Once youngish girls with their Mom. All were beautiful blondes. I doubt that Paul picks them from the nosebleeds but his people know what he wants.
Yep, in Memphis, Atlanta and Duluth, GA.
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ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
thenightfish wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
How much input does Paul get, especially picking those from the nosebleed section who get to sit in the front row? Those always turn out to be young, cute couples. (I've personally witnessed this 3 times as I was seated behind them in row 3 or 4)
I think that during the break before the encore, he must tell his security guy if he wants someone to come up and who. (tells him what their sign says) In the past, and especially at stadium concerts, I think security just picked them during soundcheck. Personally, my opinion is that he never should have started this trend. I remember the "good old days" where no posters were allowed. Everybody was happy and no one went home disappointed because they didn't get picked!
Couples picked for the front row? Whenever I've been up close... rows 2,3 or 4, I've just seen girls. Once youngish girls with their Mom. All were beautiful blondes. I doubt that Paul picks them from the nosebleeds but his people know what he wants.
I've seen couples and moms/daughters upgraded. It's not all just girls anymore.
As to the people being selected on stage, I do think Paul has some input on that, based on the signs he sees during the show. I've noticed that the person is often someone whose sign he's read out loud.
I'm really only jealous of the girls under 25, ESPECIALLY those under 18-20. Everyone thinks they're "cute" just becuase they're "kids" and it makes me sick with sadness and envy. Why can't I be a cute kid too? Just becuase I've crossed the arbitrary threshold of 18?
I know idol worship is unhealthy and wrong, but the Beatles are the closest thing to idols I have, and I just can't fathom meeting them and having them think I'm ugly. I hate being in the same space as younger, prettier girls, because I always imagine myself being stacked up against them in some kind of competition. Like, if by chance I were to meet the Beatles, and I happened to be in the same room/venue as a bunch of prettier and younger girls, wouldn't the Beatles favor them, even if on a subconscious level? John has already told me how beautiful and special I am to him, but there's still that nagging insecurity that he's only telling that to make me feel better, and he secretly loves other little girls more.
well, Renee, you had your turn to be very young, and now it is all those other females' turn. You shouldn't begrudge it to them and be consumed with resentment and jealousy. Of course children are treated as special, and they should be. They are very sensitive and vulnerable and need to be protected, pampered, sheltered. They need to feel wanted and loved. Children deserve all that special treatment and attention; for one thing it helps them grow up to be well adjusted and healthy. Yes, Paul no doubt still has an eye for the young, pretty girls (and I know he loves children in a normal healthy way), but his wives weren't beauty queens and I know he realizes beauty comes in different forms and is subjective. It's in the eye of the beholder and all that. I think society's getting somewhat better about realizing there are all kinds of beauty in various shapes, sizes, ages, etc. Paul knows not everyone can resemble a fashion model. Some even regard them as too slender to be really eye pleasing.
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Susy, what did you mean to write?
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Nancy R wrote:
Susy, what did you mean to write?
Nancy, didn't my post I just wrote show up? It shows up on my p.c.
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SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
Susy, what did you mean to write?
Nancy, didn't my post I just wrote show up? It shows up on my p.c.
Well, now it shows up! Weird!
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SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
thenightfish wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
How much input does Paul get, especially picking those from the nosebleed section who get to sit in the front row? Those always turn out to be young, cute couples. (I've personally witnessed this 3 times as I was seated behind them in row 3 or 4)
I think that during the break before the encore, he must tell his security guy if he wants someone to come up and who. (tells him what their sign says) In the past, and especially at stadium concerts, I think security just picked them during soundcheck. Personally, my opinion is that he never should have started this trend. I remember the "good old days" where no posters were allowed. Everybody was happy and no one went home disappointed because they didn't get picked!
Couples picked for the front row? Whenever I've been up close... rows 2,3 or 4, I've just seen girls. Once youngish girls with their Mom. All were beautiful blondes. I doubt that Paul picks them from the nosebleeds but his people know what he wants.
I've seen couples and moms/daughters upgraded. It's not all just girls anymore.
As to the people being selected on stage, I do think Paul has some input on that, based on the signs he sees during the show. I've noticed that the person is often someone whose sign he's read out loud.
I'm really only jealous of the girls under 25, ESPECIALLY those under 18-20. Everyone thinks they're "cute" just becuase they're "kids" and it makes me sick with sadness and envy. Why can't I be a cute kid too? Just becuase I've crossed the arbitrary threshold of 18?
I know idol worship is unhealthy and wrong, but the Beatles are the closest thing to idols I have, and I just can't fathom meeting them and having them think I'm ugly. I hate being in the same space as younger, prettier girls, because I always imagine myself being stacked up against them in some kind of competition. Like, if by chance I were to meet the Beatles, and I happened to be in the same room/venue as a bunch of prettier and younger girls, wouldn't the Beatles favor them, even if on a subconscious level? John has already told me how beautiful and special I am to him, but there's still that nagging insecurity that he's only telling that to make me feel better, and he secretly loves other little girls more.
well, Renee, you had your turn to be very young, and now it is all those other females' turn. You shouldn't begrudge it to them and be consumed with resentment and jealousy. Of course children are treated as special, and they should be. They are very sensitive and vulnerable and need to be protected, pampered, sheltered. They need to feel wanted and loved. Children deserve all that special treatment and attention; for one thing it helps them grow up to be well adjusted and healthy. Yes, Paul no doubt still has an eye for the young, pretty girls (and I know he loves children in a normal healthy way), but his wives weren't beauty queens and I know he realizes beauty comes in different forms and is subjective. It's in the eye of the beholder and all that. I think society's getting somewhat better about realizing there are all kinds of beauty in various shapes, sizes, ages, etc. Paul knows not everyone can resemble a fashion model. Some even regard them as too slender to be really eye pleasing.
I don't think you'll ever understand how much your post hurt me.
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I'm sorry you reacted with feeling hurt. I thought I made some valid points, and I wasn't trying to be sadistic or to offend you. I've seen different types and ages called up to the stage. It wasn't just one certain type.
And I've got a a soft spot for children and wanted to speak up for them. To take up for them. I wonder what bothered you so much, and wonder if others reading it thought it was an awful, hateful post.
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SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
I'm sorry you reacted with feeling hurt. I thought I made some valid points, and I wasn't trying to be sadistic or to offend you. I've seen different types and ages called up to the stage. It wasn't just one certain type.
And I've got a a soft spot for children and wanted to speak up for them. To take up for them. I wonder what bothered you so much, and wonder if others reading it thought it was an awful, hateful post.
It bothered me because it's ageist, straight up. Children are NOT the only special people or the only ones allowed to be sensitive and comforted and protected. Just becuase I'm a so-called "adult" now doesn't make me any less special than them! My heart needs just as much care and love.
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ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
I'm sorry you reacted with feeling hurt. I thought I made some valid points, and I wasn't trying to be sadistic or to offend you. I've seen different types and ages called up to the stage. It wasn't just one certain type.
And I've got a a soft spot for children and wanted to speak up for them. To take up for them. I wonder what bothered you so much, and wonder if others reading it thought it was an awful, hateful post.
It bothered me because it's ageist, straight up. Children are NOT the only special people or the only ones allowed to be sensitive and comforted and protected. Just becuase I'm a so-called "adult" now doesn't make me any less special than them! My heart needs just as much care and love.
Hear, hear!
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ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
I'm sorry you reacted with feeling hurt. I thought I made some valid points, and I wasn't trying to be sadistic or to offend you. I've seen different types and ages called up to the stage. It wasn't just one certain type.
And I've got a a soft spot for children and wanted to speak up for them. To take up for them. I wonder what bothered you so much, and wonder if others reading it thought it was an awful, hateful post.
It bothered me because it's ageist, straight up. Children are NOT the only special people or the only ones allowed to be sensitive and comforted and protected. Just becuase I'm a so-called "adult" now doesn't make me any less special than them! My heart needs just as much care and love.
Good grief lady don't go to the gigs then if you get so worked up about this. Who cares who gets called up!?!? Are you there to be seen or to hear music??
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Maccaroni1974 wrote:
ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
I'm sorry you reacted with feeling hurt. I thought I made some valid points, and I wasn't trying to be sadistic or to offend you. I've seen different types and ages called up to the stage. It wasn't just one certain type.
And I've got a a soft spot for children and wanted to speak up for them. To take up for them. I wonder what bothered you so much, and wonder if others reading it thought it was an awful, hateful post.
It bothered me because it's ageist, straight up. Children are NOT the only special people or the only ones allowed to be sensitive and comforted and protected. Just becuase I'm a so-called "adult" now doesn't make me any less special than them! My heart needs just as much care and love.
Good grief lady don't go to the gigs then if you get so worked up about this. Who cares who gets called up!?!? Are you there to be seen or to hear music??
Btw, this conversation has expanded waaaay beyond the scope of concerts, or even the Beatles themselves, if you haven't noticed. We're now talking about ageism and how kids are always favored in this world. But back to my original ponit, yes, it bothers me that within this fandom (and most others) kids are always the ones treated like they're special. If an adult, for instance, posts a picture of herself showing off her Beatles records collection, people might think it's cool, but they won't fawn over it. If a child, on the other hand, were to post the same kind of picture, you'd be getting all these "awww, how coot" comments. It's ageist and wrong.
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ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
Maccaroni1974 wrote:
ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
SusyLuvsPaul wrote:
I'm sorry you reacted with feeling hurt. I thought I made some valid points, and I wasn't trying to be sadistic or to offend you. I've seen different types and ages called up to the stage. It wasn't just one certain type.
And I've got a a soft spot for children and wanted to speak up for them. To take up for them. I wonder what bothered you so much, and wonder if others reading it thought it was an awful, hateful post.
It bothered me because it's ageist, straight up. Children are NOT the only special people or the only ones allowed to be sensitive and comforted and protected. Just becuase I'm a so-called "adult" now doesn't make me any less special than them! My heart needs just as much care and love.
Good grief lady don't go to the gigs then if you get so worked up about this. Who cares who gets called up!?!? Are you there to be seen or to hear music??
Btw, this conversation has expanded waaaay beyond the scope of concerts, or even the Beatles themselves, if you haven't noticed. We're now talking about ageism and how kids are always favored in this world. But back to my original ponit, yes, it bothers me that within this fandom (and most others) kids are always the ones treated like they're special. If an adult, for instance, posts a picture of herself showing off her Beatles records collection, people might think it's cool, but they won't fawn over it. If a child, on the other hand, were to post the same kind of picture, you'd be getting all these "awww, how coot" comments. It's ageist and wrong.
Theyre favored in the world(generally) so they are given a fair shake in life, so they when they get older they don't have an infeiriority complex like you do.
Most kids dont listen to the beatles, thats why people think its "cute" and "fawn" over them. Again, children require proper attention so they don't become attention starved adults
Somebody give this lady a hug already!
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ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
The thought of the Beatles thinking I'm ugly and uncool is soul-crushing to me. I'm obsessed with them and seek their approval (John's especially, I want him to adore me) more than anything.
Okay, I'll bite first. Why do you need the approval of someone who has been dead for nearly forty years? And how do you think you're going to receive it?
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ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
thenightfish wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
How much input does Paul get, especially picking those from the nosebleed section who get to sit in the front row? Those always turn out to be young, cute couples. (I've personally witnessed this 3 times as I was seated behind them in row 3 or 4)
I think that during the break before the encore, he must tell his security guy if he wants someone to come up and who. (tells him what their sign says) In the past, and especially at stadium concerts, I think security just picked them during soundcheck. Personally, my opinion is that he never should have started this trend. I remember the "good old days" where no posters were allowed. Everybody was happy and no one went home disappointed because they didn't get picked!
Couples picked for the front row? Whenever I've been up close... rows 2,3 or 4, I've just seen girls. Once youngish girls with their Mom. All were beautiful blondes. I doubt that Paul picks them from the nosebleeds but his people know what he wants.
I've seen couples and moms/daughters upgraded. It's not all just girls anymore.
As to the people being selected on stage, I do think Paul has some input on that, based on the signs he sees during the show. I've noticed that the person is often someone whose sign he's read out loud.
I'm really only jealous of the girls under 25, ESPECIALLY those under 18-20. Everyone thinks they're "cute" just becuase they're "kids" and it makes me sick with sadness and envy. Why can't I be a cute kid too? Just becuase I've crossed the arbitrary threshold of 18?
I know idol worship is unhealthy and wrong, but the Beatles are the closest thing to idols I have, and I just can't fathom meeting them and having them think I'm ugly. I hate being in the same space as younger, prettier girls, because I always imagine myself being stacked up against them in some kind of competition. Like, if by chance I were to meet the Beatles, and I happened to be in the same room/venue as a bunch of prettier and younger girls, wouldn't the Beatles favor them, even if on a subconscious level? John has already told me how beautiful and special I am to him, but there's still that nagging insecurity that he's only telling that to make me feel better, and he secretly loves other little girls more.
Sweetie first of all I'm thinking you need a big hug. BIG HUG (((ImprinteeRenesmee)))
Honey, I don't think you are ugly... The next bunch of times you look at yourself in the mirror. Try telling yourself that you love who you are, just the way you are. We all have to Love Ourselves First!!! So practice in the mirror and learn to Love that person you see.
Do you wear makeup? There are places where you can go, where someone can professionally make up your face. You can discuss with them how to contour and emphasize the best parts of you! I'm sure you will like the results and feel prettier when you walk out of there!
Please don't be jealous. Jealousy is such a wasted emotion. The next concert you go to, try and think to yourself, "I bet almost every single person here, wishes they could meet Paul". Sweetie, Paul is only one person, and even tho he may meet a couple of people at some shows, you KNOW there is no way he can meet all the wonderful people at each show. Why, even famous people who want to meet him have a hard time! I hope you can just enjoy the music and look around at all the happy Paul fans around you. Maybe you could meet one of them and share your love of the Beatles and of Paul! We can all be thankful, that he still plays concerts where we get to see him play, and feel all of the Love for him and the music.
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Kestrel wrote:
ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
The thought of the Beatles thinking I'm ugly and uncool is soul-crushing to me. I'm obsessed with them and seek their approval (John's especially, I want him to adore me) more than anything.
Okay, I'll bite first. Why do you need the approval of someone who has been dead for nearly forty years? And how do you think you're going to receive it?
Becuase I ADORE him and he is my best friend. He communicates with me through spirit and dreams. I get this feeling in my heart that I am his little princess and he really does see me as a cute kid. But when other girls are around I feel SO self-concious. I'm just a jealous girl.
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love2travel wrote:
ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
thenightfish wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
How much input does Paul get, especially picking those from the nosebleed section who get to sit in the front row? Those always turn out to be young, cute couples. (I've personally witnessed this 3 times as I was seated behind them in row 3 or 4)
I think that during the break before the encore, he must tell his security guy if he wants someone to come up and who. (tells him what their sign says) In the past, and especially at stadium concerts, I think security just picked them during soundcheck. Personally, my opinion is that he never should have started this trend. I remember the "good old days" where no posters were allowed. Everybody was happy and no one went home disappointed because they didn't get picked!
Couples picked for the front row? Whenever I've been up close... rows 2,3 or 4, I've just seen girls. Once youngish girls with their Mom. All were beautiful blondes. I doubt that Paul picks them from the nosebleeds but his people know what he wants.
I've seen couples and moms/daughters upgraded. It's not all just girls anymore.
As to the people being selected on stage, I do think Paul has some input on that, based on the signs he sees during the show. I've noticed that the person is often someone whose sign he's read out loud.
I'm really only jealous of the girls under 25, ESPECIALLY those under 18-20. Everyone thinks they're "cute" just becuase they're "kids" and it makes me sick with sadness and envy. Why can't I be a cute kid too? Just becuase I've crossed the arbitrary threshold of 18?
I know idol worship is unhealthy and wrong, but the Beatles are the closest thing to idols I have, and I just can't fathom meeting them and having them think I'm ugly. I hate being in the same space as younger, prettier girls, because I always imagine myself being stacked up against them in some kind of competition. Like, if by chance I were to meet the Beatles, and I happened to be in the same room/venue as a bunch of prettier and younger girls, wouldn't the Beatles favor them, even if on a subconscious level? John has already told me how beautiful and special I am to him, but there's still that nagging insecurity that he's only telling that to make me feel better, and he secretly loves other little girls more.
Sweetie first of all I'm thinking you need a big hug. BIG HUG (((ImprinteeRenesmee)))
Honey, I don't think you are ugly... The next bunch of times you look at yourself in the mirror. Try telling yourself that you love who you are, just the way you are. We all have to Love Ourselves First!!! So practice in the mirror and learn to Love that person you see.
Do you wear makeup? There are places where you can go, where someone can professionally make up your face. You can discuss with them how to contour and emphasize the best parts of you! I'm sure you will like the results and feel prettier when you walk out of there!
Please don't be jealous. Jealousy is such a wasted emotion. The next concert you go to, try and think to yourself, "I bet almost every single person here, wishes they could meet Paul". Sweetie, Paul is only one person, and even tho he may meet a couple of people at some shows, you KNOW there is no way he can meet all the wonderful people at each show. Why, even famous people who want to meet him have a hard time! I hope you can just enjoy the music and look around at all the happy Paul fans around you. Maybe you could meet one of them and share your love of the Beatles and of Paul! We can all be thankful, that he still plays concerts where we get to see him play, and feel all of the Love for him and the music.
Hi, and thanks for your message. I'm hesitant to wear makeup because I feel like it makes me look older. I don't want to look older, because I still identify as a little girl and want to be treated as such. If Paul or any of the other Beatles saw me I'd want them to think I'm just a cute young girl, not an adult woman.
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ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
The thought of the Beatles thinking I'm ugly and uncool is soul-crushing to me. I'm obsessed with them and seek their approval (John's especially, I want him to adore me) more than anything.
Okay, I'll bite first. Why do you need the approval of someone who has been dead for nearly forty years? And how do you think you're going to receive it?
Becuase I ADORE him and he is my best friend. He communicates with me through spirit and dreams. I get this feeling in my heart that I am his little princess and he really does see me as a cute kid. But when other girls are around I feel SO self-concious. I'm just a jealous girl.
Well that is a lovely reply and is quite sweet a way. I certainly admire your optimism. But sooner or later you're going to have to engage with reality and snap out of this fantasy world you've cacooned yourself within. In the meantime, ignore the other girls, enjoy your personal connection within your dreams but open your eyes to whats going on around you beyond the Beatles.
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ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
love2travel wrote:
ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
thenightfish wrote:
oobu24 wrote:
Nancy R wrote:
How much input does Paul get, especially picking those from the nosebleed section who get to sit in the front row? Those always turn out to be young, cute couples. (I've personally witnessed this 3 times as I was seated behind them in row 3 or 4)
I think that during the break before the encore, he must tell his security guy if he wants someone to come up and who. (tells him what their sign says) In the past, and especially at stadium concerts, I think security just picked them during soundcheck. Personally, my opinion is that he never should have started this trend. I remember the "good old days" where no posters were allowed. Everybody was happy and no one went home disappointed because they didn't get picked!
Couples picked for the front row? Whenever I've been up close... rows 2,3 or 4, I've just seen girls. Once youngish girls with their Mom. All were beautiful blondes. I doubt that Paul picks them from the nosebleeds but his people know what he wants.
I've seen couples and moms/daughters upgraded. It's not all just girls anymore.
As to the people being selected on stage, I do think Paul has some input on that, based on the signs he sees during the show. I've noticed that the person is often someone whose sign he's read out loud.
I'm really only jealous of the girls under 25, ESPECIALLY those under 18-20. Everyone thinks they're "cute" just becuase they're "kids" and it makes me sick with sadness and envy. Why can't I be a cute kid too? Just becuase I've crossed the arbitrary threshold of 18?
I know idol worship is unhealthy and wrong, but the Beatles are the closest thing to idols I have, and I just can't fathom meeting them and having them think I'm ugly. I hate being in the same space as younger, prettier girls, because I always imagine myself being stacked up against them in some kind of competition. Like, if by chance I were to meet the Beatles, and I happened to be in the same room/venue as a bunch of prettier and younger girls, wouldn't the Beatles favor them, even if on a subconscious level? John has already told me how beautiful and special I am to him, but there's still that nagging insecurity that he's only telling that to make me feel better, and he secretly loves other little girls more.
Sweetie first of all I'm thinking you need a big hug. BIG HUG (((ImprinteeRenesmee)))
Honey, I don't think you are ugly... The next bunch of times you look at yourself in the mirror. Try telling yourself that you love who you are, just the way you are. We all have to Love Ourselves First!!! So practice in the mirror and learn to Love that person you see.
Do you wear makeup? There are places where you can go, where someone can professionally make up your face. You can discuss with them how to contour and emphasize the best parts of you! I'm sure you will like the results and feel prettier when you walk out of there!
Please don't be jealous. Jealousy is such a wasted emotion. The next concert you go to, try and think to yourself, "I bet almost every single person here, wishes they could meet Paul". Sweetie, Paul is only one person, and even tho he may meet a couple of people at some shows, you KNOW there is no way he can meet all the wonderful people at each show. Why, even famous people who want to meet him have a hard time! I hope you can just enjoy the music and look around at all the happy Paul fans around you. Maybe you could meet one of them and share your love of the Beatles and of Paul! We can all be thankful, that he still plays concerts where we get to see him play, and feel all of the Love for him and the music.
Hi, and thanks for your message. I'm hesitant to wear makeup because I feel like it makes me look older. I don't want to look older, because I still identify as a little girl and want to be treated as such. If Paul or any of the other Beatles saw me I'd want them to think I'm just a cute young girl, not an adult woman.
Well then, just remember...you are as young as you feel. Just laugh and don't forget how to have fun!
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ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
The thought of the Beatles thinking I'm ugly and uncool is soul-crushing to me. I'm obsessed with them and seek their approval (John's especially, I want him to adore me) more than anything.
Okay, I'll bite first. Why do you need the approval of someone who has been dead for nearly forty years? And how do you think you're going to receive it?
Becuase I ADORE him and he is my best friend. He communicates with me through spirit and dreams. I get this feeling in my heart that I am his little princess and he really does see me as a cute kid. But when other girls are around I feel SO self-concious. I'm just a jealous girl.
Please dial 9-1-1. You're welcome!
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Maccaroni1974 wrote:
ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
Kestrel wrote:
ImprinteeRenesmee wrote:
The thought of the Beatles thinking I'm ugly and uncool is soul-crushing to me. I'm obsessed with them and seek their approval (John's especially, I want him to adore me) more than anything.
Okay, I'll bite first. Why do you need the approval of someone who has been dead for nearly forty years? And how do you think you're going to receive it?
Becuase I ADORE him and he is my best friend. He communicates with me through spirit and dreams. I get this feeling in my heart that I am his little princess and he really does see me as a cute kid. But when other girls are around I feel SO self-concious. I'm just a jealous girl.
Please dial 9-1-1. You're welcome!
Don't be mean