New album by Ringo, titled Postcards from Paradise
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Bruce M.:
DrummerFromFife:
Bruce M.:
DrummerFromFife:
Hendrix Ibsen:
I can't understand why you think "Ringo's Rotogravure" is so lame, especially if you like the previous two that somehow is in the same street, at least in my opinion... but I "respect it".
I'm a simple man. I don't really care how intricate or simple the recording style is, or what the background behind the album is. Enjoyable music is what matters most to me. I'm just out for music that will give me a good time. Stuff I can have fun with.... And Rotogravure just doesn't provide much for me. It has a couple of good songs. Cookin' in the Kitchen of Love, Cryin', This Be Called a Song, maybe You Don't Know Me at All... there are some good bits... But to me, they can't compare to Ringo, or Vertical Man, or Time Takes Time, or Ringo Rama, Choose Love, or Y Not, or even Postcards. I can't really call it the worst album ever made. There's probably worse out there... but it's certainly my least favourite Ringo album. It has a few good songs here and there but, for me, Rotogravure and Bad Boy really don't do much for me.
I rather liked Rotogravure, but haven't listened to it in ages. After my rather traumatic experience revisiting Ringo the 4th, I'm a bit scared to, frankly. But I'm still enjoying Postcards from Paradise. Hey, isn't Postcards supposed to be the subject of this thread?
Yeah, Postcards is meant to be the main focus. Gotta love tangents!
And listening to the 4th was traumatic for you? It's like me with Hey Baby and Wrack my Brain
Tastes do vary. I like Hey Baby and LOVE Wrack My Brain.
Oh indeed they do
. I dislike Wrack My Brain, merely because I just don't like how the music sounds. I can't call it the worst thing ever though. I can think of a Beatles song or two that's worse... There are better George compositions out there, and certainly much better Ringo songs out there. Hey Baby on the other hand... Oh how I have hated that song for the past 17 or so years, pretty much since the 5 year old me first heard the song. It started out as a very irritating girls song that I heard a zillion times on the radio. I just grew to despise it. Then I discovered, about 12 years later, that our dear friend Richie Starkey had recorded a cover about 40 years ago. If only that changed my opinion on it... Wrack My Brain, I'm able to cut some slack. Hey Baby, I cannot. I'd go so far as to call it my least favourite Ringo song.
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It is "Richy." Thangyaverymuch...
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moptops:
It is "Richy." Thangyaverymuch...
Yes, if we trust the research of Mark Lewisohn, which is quite convincing.
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I have a postcard sent to his mum, from 1963. It is Richy.
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"Yes his name is Billy Shears. You know it has been for so many years..."
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So I did revisit "Rotogravure" last night, and it's not bad. It doesn't quite have the zing of the two prior albums, but it's an entirely pleasant listen -- and certainly doesn't approach the depths of "Ringo the 4th." That said, there's nothing on it that stands out. I'd totally forgotten that it had compositions from all 3 other ex-Beatles on it, perhaps because they're all okay but forgettable. They all sound like tunes that John, George and Paul wrote that didn't quite make the cut for their last album, so they gave them to Ringo. But I have to say, "Las Brisas" is a guilty pleasure. Still, I'll take "Postcards" by a considerable margin.
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Bruce M.:
So I did revisit "Rotogravure" last night, and it's not bad. It doesn't quite have the zing of the two prior albums, but it's an entirely pleasant listen -- and certainly doesn't approach the depths of "Ringo the 4th." That said, there's nothing on it that stands out. I'd totally forgotten that it had compositions from all 3 other ex-Beatles on it, perhaps because they're all okay but forgettable. They all sound like tunes that John, George and Paul wrote that didn't quite make the cut for their last album, so they gave them to Ringo. But I have to say, "Las Brisas" is a guilty pleasure. Still, I'll take "Postcards" by a considerable margin.
It's like my opinion on Bad Boy and Ringo the 4th... Bad Boy being forgettable, and The 4th being a guilty pleasure... Postcards wins over all 3 any day though
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I love 'Ringo The 4th'. One of the most underrated albums in the Beatles canon. I like it more than 'Postcards', which is okay but a bit repetitive. However, 'Postcards' is an improvement on the lacklustre (and criminally short) '2012'.
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Mumbojunk:
I love 'Ringo The 4th'. One of the most underrated albums in the Beatles canon. I like it more than 'Postcards', which is okay but a bit repetitive. However, 'Postcards' is an improvement on the lacklustre (and criminally short) '2012'.
Heeeeeeeey, someone else who loves The 4th.... I can't call it better than Postcards. Oh no no no no no no no no no. Not by a long shot
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OK. New topic regarding Postcards. Time to get the music lovers thinking. Ringo has released 18 albums. How does Postcards compare to the other 17? Which albums are better than Postcards? Which are worse than Postcards? Which are at about the same level of enjoyment? For me, I consider it to be better than: Goodnight Vienna Rotogravure The 4th Bad Boy Stop and Smell The Roses Old Wave Ringo Rama Liverpool 8 Ringo 2012 It's about the same as: Choose Love Time Takes Time Y Not As for albums, that are better than it, all I can really think of is Ringo (naturally) and Vertical Man, that last one is a tricky one, cause I'm not sure if it's as good as or a bit better. I have a similar dilemma with Y Not. I love that album to bits. It has some really fun tracks, including my personal favourite title track Ringo has ever recorded... but is it better than Postcards? I'm not too sure
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It is always hard to rate a new release in comparison to an artists overall body of work, but I would rate the incredible "Ringo" album as superior to Postcards. "Goodnight Vienna" and "Ringo Rama" are marginally better than Postcards. "Time Takes Time" is easily the equal of Postcards and maybe "Ringo 2012" which I think is a good one too. Perhaps "Beaucoups Of Blues" but that's difficult to assess as that's the only C&W album he's done. Tough to compare. All the rest of Ringo's albums are (to varying degrees) slightly below the standard of Postcards. .......and count me in as someone who enjoys Ringo The 4th. It's like a guilty pleasure that I spin every once in a while. The decadence of the disco era is perfectly (or imperfectly?) on full display on that album. And any album with Wings on it is a winner for me.
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DavidP:
It is always hard to rate a new release in comparison to an artists overall body of work, but I would rate the incredible "Ringo" album as superior to Postcards. "Goodnight Vienna" and "Ringo Rama" are marginally better than Postcards. "Time Takes Time" is easily the equal of Postcards and maybe "Ringo 2012" which I think is a good one too. Perhaps "Beaucoups Of Blues" but that's difficult to assess as that's the only C&W album he's done. Tough to compare. All the rest of Ringo's albums are (to varying degrees) slightly below the standard of Postcards. .......and count me in as someone who enjoys Ringo The 4th. It's like a guilty pleasure that I spin every once in a while. The decadence of the disco era is perfectly (or imperfectly?) on full display on that album. And any album with Wings on it is a winner for me.
HEEEEEEEEEEEEY, a fellow "Wings" lover
That song... I dunno what it is about it, I just love it to bits
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DrummerFromFife:
DavidP:
It is always hard to rate a new release in comparison to an artists overall body of work, but I would rate the incredible "Ringo" album as superior to Postcards. "Goodnight Vienna" and "Ringo Rama" are marginally better than Postcards. "Time Takes Time" is easily the equal of Postcards and maybe "Ringo 2012" which I think is a good one too. Perhaps "Beaucoups Of Blues" but that's difficult to assess as that's the only C&W album he's done. Tough to compare. All the rest of Ringo's albums are (to varying degrees) slightly below the standard of Postcards. .......and count me in as someone who enjoys Ringo The 4th. It's like a guilty pleasure that I spin every once in a while. The decadence of the disco era is perfectly (or imperfectly?) on full display on that album. And any album with Wings on it is a winner for me.
HEEEEEEEEEEEEY, a fellow "Wings" lover
That song... I dunno what it is about it, I just love it to bits
I remember buying "Ringo the 4th" a few days after it was released and instantly loving Wings. The strongest song on the album. It was also a surprise to find that Ringo had co-written 6 of the songs on the album which was highly unusual for Ringo back in those days. On the Ringo album he'd been credited with 4 songs, Goodnight Vienna with 3 and Rotogravure with just 2 (excluding spooky weirdness). So to have an LP with 6 Ringo songs on it was a pleasant surprise. Gypsies in Flight and Gave it All Up could have fit nicely on the "B of B" LP.
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DavidP:
DrummerFromFife:
DavidP:
It is always hard to rate a new release in comparison to an artists overall body of work, but I would rate the incredible "Ringo" album as superior to Postcards. "Goodnight Vienna" and "Ringo Rama" are marginally better than Postcards. "Time Takes Time" is easily the equal of Postcards and maybe "Ringo 2012" which I think is a good one too. Perhaps "Beaucoups Of Blues" but that's difficult to assess as that's the only C&W album he's done. Tough to compare. All the rest of Ringo's albums are (to varying degrees) slightly below the standard of Postcards. .......and count me in as someone who enjoys Ringo The 4th. It's like a guilty pleasure that I spin every once in a while. The decadence of the disco era is perfectly (or imperfectly?) on full display on that album. And any album with Wings on it is a winner for me.
HEEEEEEEEEEEEY, a fellow "Wings" lover
That song... I dunno what it is about it, I just love it to bits
I remember buying "Ringo the 4th" a few days after it was released and instantly loving Wings. The strongest song on the album. It was also a surprise to find that Ringo had co-written 6 of the songs on the album which was highly unusual for Ringo back in those days. On the Ringo album he'd been credited with 4 songs, Goodnight Vienna with 3 and Rotogravure with just 2 (excluding spooky weirdness). So to have an LP with 6 Ringo songs on it was a pleasant surprise. Gypsies in Flight and Gave it All Up could have fit nicely on the "B of B" LP.
Wings is an interesting specimen. If I could have my way, it'd be a regular part of Ringo's touring setlist. I think Ringo 2012 really did improve it though. Super fun song, way up there with the likes of Oh My My and Back Off Boogaloo por moi
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From "Ringo the 4th" I'd choose "Gave It All Up" as a favorite. Ringo sounds kind of tired on it but it fits the song and mood. On the other side of this I'd choose "Tango All Night" as my favorite uptempo number. "Wings" is a nice enough song I think, but I've never been hooked on it to an extent where I have to play it three times in a row, as nowadays with "Rory and the Hurricanes"...
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Hendrix Ibsen:
From "Ringo the 4th" I'd choose "Gave It All Up" as a favorite. Ringo sounds kind of tired on it but it fits the song and mood. On the other side of this I'd choose "Tango All Night" as my favorite uptempo number. "Wings" is a nice enough song I think, but I've never been hooked on it to an extent where I have to play it three times in a row, as nowadays with "Rory and the Hurricanes"...
Yeah, Rory is that kind of song. You play it a zillion times a day, and it doesn't get boring
. As for Wings, You probably won't get a massive hook for it if you're looking strictly on the 4th. You need to listen to it from Ringo 2012. That's a much better version. Worked for me at least
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Yep, thanks for the tip, I'll put on "Ringo 2012" now. It's been a while since I played it. It is perhaps not the one I reach for most often in my Ringo collection. At least not so far... But I'll listen to it now!
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I'm not sure exactly how I'd rank "Postcards" in relation to Ringo's other albums, but I'm feeling pretty sure it belongs somewhere in the top 25% at least. Now, a question about those '70s albums we've been revisiting (and sorry if this has been asked and answered before): On most of the tracks Ringo and Jim Keltner are both listed as drumming, but most don't sound like there are 2 drummers. What's up with that?
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Bruce M.:
I'm not sure exactly how I'd rank "Postcards" in relation to Ringo's other albums, but I'm feeling pretty sure it belongs somewhere in the top 25% at least. Now, a question about those '70s albums we've been revisiting (and sorry if this has been asked and answered before): On most of the tracks Ringo and Jim Keltner are both listed as drumming, but most don't sound like there are 2 drummers. What's up with that?
They play that well together, they're in total sync?
The first song with 2 drummers that leaps to my brain is Photograph. Doesn't sound like 2 drummers. They work that well together
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Good morning class, How was your summer vacation and life with this album almost 6 months later? The title track and the kick-off song grew on me over this time. The album is solid and feels like a companion to R2012. Your thoughts? This thread had some much momentum until the first week in May.