Vegetarians...this is what NOT to do
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I have a feeling there is a planet out there somewhere where a superior 'alien' race eats/abuses human beings and treats them just the way some humans mistreat animals. Although there are some here on earth that do the same thing. I am glad I don't have any animal karma coming to me here or afterwards in eternity. But I don't eat animals because of karma, I just love them too much to hurt them.
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Dierdra:
Boggle:
simplyrahil:
Kathryn O:
simplyrahil:
KO'C and her favourite 'self-righteous' copout everytime haha puhlease just because there is righteousness in the world within some people and there is none in you doesn't mean that they are 'self-righteous' they are simply righteous.. .
I've stated this before. Self Righteous("SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS" is the word) is the most destructive force in humanity. It is my life cause to stop it. (in fact, it leads to the destruction of other species). and yes, there is righteousness in me. It's just not the type you can recognize because it's for real.
self-righteousness is the same old song being sung whenever many who want to keep eating animals are faced with the moral stance that killing innocent animals is wrong and they have nothing else to validate such an unnecessary act of taking innocent life. no excuse for taking the life of any animal can ever be 'righteous' in any way, form or fashion. so i have no idea where that 'righteousness' you claim to possess is hiding. the point is it is wrong to kill innocent animals.
Kathryn O:
and just for the records, there is no such thing as being 'veg for the right reasons'. any reason is right.
if 'any reason is right', then what's your excuse for being in the wrong? (not veg at all, and constantly trying to find ways to bring down veganism) pardon. i don't want to hear it again. we've all heard all the excuses before.
You say people make up excuses when they eat meat because they have no justification. Well i make no excuses as i dont need to justifiy the fact that i like meat and if it means animals need to be killed to put meat on my plates so be it, i dont have a problem with that, the same way i dont have a problem with people not eating meat, although i do think that vegans are very strange people, dont understand them at all! So there you are, i admit it, I LIKE MEAT!
Kathryn O...you said: "and just for the records, there is no such thing as being 'veg for the right reasons'. any reason is right. " No, that is not true... The only reason to be vegan is to help sentient beings become free of the torment that humans foist on them... become free of human interference....free of pain, torture and death that they do NOT deserve and do NOT ask for. We have NO rights over animals...they should be allowed to live their own lives just as humans should be allowed to live theirs. We are ALL animals. This is a simple concept...it is NOT rocket science. "?It?s really not rocket science. If animals are not mere things; if they have moral value, we cannot justify eating, wearing, or using them particularly when we have no better reason than palate pleasure or fashion. If you are eating, wearing, or using animals, then your actions say that you regard them as mere things, despite what your words say.? ~ Gary Francione ____________________________ To Boggle... Good name for you, because you consistently boggle my mind with your lack of caring about non human animals.... You said: "Well i make no excuses as i dont need to justifiy the fact that i like meat and if it means animals need to be killed to put meat on my plates so be it, i dont have a problem with that........ " "So there you are, i admit it, I LIKE MEAT" guess what dude..... You like meat that does NOT belong to you... It belongs to the animals who were tortured, abused and slaughtered to "bring" it to your plate... I wonder how it feels to be that entitled, that you can't see the cruelty inherent in the meat, dairy and egg industries... Animals are suffering by the millions every single day, but so many of you simply do not care. How do you not care? Seriously? I bet you care about your family dog or cat... Your pets are animals just like the ones you choose to eat. Where do you draw the line? Because there should be NO line...if you want to be really fair, then you'd have no problem eating your family pet... ""Once you come to terms why you don?t eat dogs, cats, monkeys and dolphins, you?ll begin to understand why I don?t eat cows, pigs, chickens and lambs.? ~ Edward Sanchez
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hey_kittay:
I have a feeling there is a planet out there somewhere where a superior 'alien' race eats/abuses human beings and treats them just the way some humans mistreat animals. Although there are some here on earth that do the same thing. I am glad I don't have any animal karma coming to me here or afterwards in eternity. But I don't eat animals because of karma, I just love them too much to hurt them.
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Dierdra:
Boggle:
simplyrahil:
Kathryn O:
simplyrahil:
KO'C and her favourite 'self-righteous' copout everytime haha puhlease just because there is righteousness in the world within some people and there is none in you doesn't mean that they are 'self-righteous' they are simply righteous.. .
I've stated this before. Self Righteous("SELF-RIGHTEOUSNESS" is the word) is the most destructive force in humanity. It is my life cause to stop it. (in fact, it leads to the destruction of other species). and yes, there is righteousness in me. It's just not the type you can recognize because it's for real.
self-righteousness is the same old song being sung whenever many who want to keep eating animals are faced with the moral stance that killing innocent animals is wrong and they have nothing else to validate such an unnecessary act of taking innocent life. no excuse for taking the life of any animal can ever be 'righteous' in any way, form or fashion. so i have no idea where that 'righteousness' you claim to possess is hiding. the point is it is wrong to kill innocent animals.
Kathryn O:
and just for the records, there is no such thing as being 'veg for the right reasons'. any reason is right.
if 'any reason is right', then what's your excuse for being in the wrong? (not veg at all, and constantly trying to find ways to bring down veganism) pardon. i don't want to hear it again. we've all heard all the excuses before.
You say people make up excuses when they eat meat because they have no justification. Well i make no excuses as i dont need to justifiy the fact that i like meat and if it means animals need to be killed to put meat on my plates so be it, i dont have a problem with that, the same way i dont have a problem with people not eating meat, although i do think that vegans are very strange people, dont understand them at all! So there you are, i admit it, I LIKE MEAT!
Kathryn O...you said: "and just for the records, there is no such thing as being 'veg for the right reasons'. any reason is right. " No, that is not true... The only reason to be vegan is to help sentient beings become free of the torment that humans foist on them... become free of human interference....free of pain, torture and death that they do NOT deserve and do NOT ask for. We have NO rights over animals...they should be allowed to live their own lives just as humans should be allowed to live theirs. We are ALL animals. This is a simple concept...it is NOT rocket science. "?It?s really not rocket science. If animals are not mere things; if they have moral value, we cannot justify eating, wearing, or using them particularly when we have no better reason than palate pleasure or fashion. If you are eating, wearing, or using animals, then your actions say that you regard them as mere things, despite what your words say.? ~ Gary Francione ____________________________ To Boggle... Good name for you, because you consistently boggle my mind with your lack of caring about non human animals.... You said: "Well i make no excuses as i dont need to justifiy the fact that i like meat and if it means animals need to be killed to put meat on my plates so be it, i dont have a problem with that........ " "So there you are, i admit it, I LIKE MEAT" guess what dude..... You like meat that does NOT belong to you... It belongs to the animals who were tortured, abused and slaughtered to "bring" it to your plate... I wonder how it feels to be that entitled, that you can't see the cruelty inherent in the meat, dairy and egg industries... Animals are suffering by the millions every single day, but so many of you simply do not care. How do you not care? Seriously? I bet you care about your family dog or cat... Your pets are animals just like the ones you choose to eat. Where do you draw the line? Because there should be NO line...if you want to be really fair, then you'd have no problem eating your family pet... ""Once you come to terms why you don?t eat dogs, cats, monkeys and dolphins, you?ll begin to understand why I don?t eat cows, pigs, chickens and lambs.? ~ Edward Sanchez
Just end youe pet theory, i dont have any pets, no cats, no dogs nothing, so you cant ask why i care about pets but not other animals as i dont have any!