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    Why Vegetarianism won't save the world....

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    • Kathryn O
      Kathryn O last edited by

      I've read other articles by her and she raises valid points. She's also had disfiguring acids thrown at her by angry vegans so that alone means she's got something to say. but she does bring a second argument to the MFM debate. How eating a locally grown animal is less impact on the environment then eating a far away grown exotic plant..... http://matadornetwork.com/bnt/why-vegetarianism-will-not-save-the-world/

      "I don't like you" "I'll get over it"

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        seventieslord last edited by

        I don't think anyone really thinks vegetarianism will "save the world" but it can make a difference. Considering the resources needed to produce meat, I'd like to see a real analysis of the difference in "carbon footprint" or whatever other metric of impact between a local steak and a foreign fruit. I don't think it is as simple as "one is foreign, one is local", anymore than it can be broken down as "one is meat, one is not". A few other things I noticed: - "A vegetarian diet ? and especially a vegan diet ? does not provide for the long-term maintenance and repair of the human body. So vegetarians are on drawdown of their biological reserves. " - then why are there lifelong vegans who are doing just fine? How are there vegan bodybuilders? - "Specifically, agriculture is biotic cleansing. It requires taking over entire living communities and clearing them away, then planting the land for just humans. All of that is a long way of saying ?extinction.? None of us can live without a place to live, without habitat. An activity that has destroyed 98% of most animals? habitat can hardly be claimed to be animal-friendly." I don't dispute this. No one can claim that agriculture hasn't hurt the earth. however, we NEED to do it or we'll die, so there's not really a debate to be had in this area. It is not frivolous or a luxury, it's a necessity. Meat production is much more environmeltally impactful and it is also unnecessary. - "You take a piece of land and you clear every living thing off it?and I mean down to the bacteria. That?s what agriculture is. " - again, this is technically true, however, equating the displacement of animals who are basically never born because their ancestors were displaced by agriculture and eventually died off, to ACTUAL enslavement suffering of LIVING animals is ridiculous. Who could think they are the same thing? It also goes back to, what is necessary and what isn't? We take land from nature and make it into a wheat field because we NEED to. We enslave and kill animals because we WANT to. - "There is no death-free option. The only options we have are the death that?s a part of the cycle of life and the death that?s destroying the cycle of life." - well DUH. But some organisms have central nervous systems and are self aware, and some people who employ a greater (or let's say different) degree of empathy choose not to participate in their killing.

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          admin last edited by

          the great dilemma of life is that we have to kill to live. that is a fact. live and let die. but it's a great difference between killing a plant and killing an animal. but not only is killing animals wrong --- if you can afford not to --- it is also wrong to mistreat them. i sometimes wonder what goes on in people's minds. we do so many wrong things, just because we CAN. i am not responsible for the actions of other people, but i can choose my own path. and maybe wake up others. hugs jj

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            • Kathryn O
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              I once read a Star Trek novel called Devil World. It had a profound effect on me. It was my first glimpse into the culture of the Jain, a group that Sagan said are the only group with a true reverence for life. Spock said, "All living beings thrive on death. Even vegetarians." That really got me thinking. (This book was written in the late 70s so the concept was very new to me)

              "I don't like you" "I'll get over it"

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                admin last edited by

                People are mainly worried about getting protein and they think that getting it from meat is the answer...no it is not the answer. They put so much dangerous chemicals in meat that cause heart disease and also our digestive system is not meant to digest meat we are meant to digest vegetables fruits, grains, milk etc. there is ample supply of this it is NOT necessary to kill animals for food. People do it only to satisfy their own senses. You can get protein from beans like Garbanzo beans and Kidney beans etc., and also a milk product called "Curd cheese which is high in protein." Tofu also has protein in it. I've lived well without any meat at all four 4 years. I don't even touch eggs either because that is considered the flesh of a chicken. My doctor says being a vegetarian is healthier. Yes one can still get diseases even being vegetarian but the risk is a lot less. I've seen horrible videos of what they do to these poor animals who have a soul in them and it makes me angry. Animals have feelings just like us too. The world will continue to suffer as long as one allows animal slaughter. Sorry for my ranting but I HATE animal cruelty and that includes chickens, pigs and fish as well. Vegetarianism can save the environment and also humanity as well.

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