Times you've been disappointed in Paul?
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Paul disappointed me in 1969 when he married Linda instead of me. Of course I was only 14 then, so that could have had something to do with it.
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Nancy R:
Paul disappointed me in 1969 when he married Linda instead of me. Of course I was only 14 then, so that could have had something to do with it.
And because he had never met you, too, perhaps?????
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The Girl Is Mine, Say Say Say, Pipes Of Peace, Broadstreet (album AND film)... Untold damage to his standing and reputation done right there in that sequence; in fact I don't think he ever really completely recovered from that dross...his reputation took such a battering that to this day, because of that rubbish, in some circles he's still thought of as a lightweight. Thankfully, by Flowers In The Dirt, he was on track again. HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOT TOGETHER WITH JACKSON!!!!!!
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moptops:
The Girl Is Mine, Say Say Say, Pipes Of Peace, Broadstreet (album AND film)... Untold damage to his standing and reputation done right there in that sequence; in fact I don't think he ever really completely recovered from that dross...his reputation took such a battering that to this day, because of that rubbish, in some circles he's still thought of as a lightweight. Thankfully, by Flowers In The Dirt, he was on track again. HE SHOULD NEVER HAVE GOT TOGETHER WITH JACKSON!!!!!!
I'll agree with that. Also the 2 Stevie Wonder tracks on Tug of War...the only turds on an otherwise flawless album.
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Production-wise, both "Ebony & Ivory" and "What's That You're Doing?" have not withstood the test of time at all. I tend to think that if "WTYD?" had been produced more like The Who's "Eminence Front," it might've held up better. But it's among my guilty-pleasure songs. And "E&I" -- in all its maudlin glory -- has, at least, the distinction of being No. 1 for seven weeks in the U.S. I think the commercial failure of the Broadstreet film is what did the real damage. My observation regarding Press To Play is that its poor sales are attributed directly to the fact that radio simply didn't play any of the singles, which puzzled me back then -- because I heard "Spies Like Us" and "No More Lonely Nights" constantly on the radio.
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hey whats wrong with Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder? they were some very good collaborators if I do say so myself.
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maclover2013:
hey whats wrong with Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder? they were some very good collaborators if I do say so myself.
For the record: "Say Say Say" is a great track. By far, the strongest of all the r&b duets.
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audi:
maclover2013:
hey whats wrong with Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder? they were some very good collaborators if I do say so myself.
For the record: "Say Say Say" is a great track. By far, the strongest of all the r&b duets.
That is a great song, and the only one of those collaborations that I even listen to.
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Actually, what deceives me in a way about Paul is how scripted and controlled his shows always are. The same anecdotes, songs (with a few changes from show to show). I know what he is going to say before he says it! Dear Paul... At the same time, he has to play these songs because this is what people expect. But improvisation is obviously not Paul's strong suit... What I don't get also is why one of the only song he does on special demand is Ram On. What is it about that song? All the same I love Paul as a human being and artist . And he damn rock it. What a spirited, upbeat ans strong person. But let's say the shows get predictable..
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^good point. The scripted stage banter I've known about for years and I never understood it. Even so, it didn't detract from my enjoyment of the show I went to a few weeks ago, but for someone who goes to more than 1 show, I can see how it would grate.
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DrBeatle:
audi:
maclover2013:
hey whats wrong with Michael Jackson and Stevie Wonder? they were some very good collaborators if I do say so myself.
For the record: "Say Say Say" is a great track. By far, the strongest of all the r&b duets.
That is a great song, and the only one of those collaborations that I even listen to.
I really don't care for ANY of his collaborations.
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Excluding the McCartney/MacManus gems, right?
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DrBeatle:
^good point. The scripted stage banter I've known about for years and I never understood it. Even so, it didn't detract from my enjoyment of the show I went to a few weeks ago, but for someone who goes to more than 1 show, I can see how it would grate.
Yep,it is hard for me to understand why you would need scripted banter. Is it that tough to just improv? Is it that difficult to say something else about George Harrison without mentioning the ukele?
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audi:
Excluding the McCartney/MacManus gems, right?
Now that was a good team, wish they had tried to collabate again after FITD.
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Fan4-45years:
Nancy R:
Paul disappointed me in 1969 when he married Linda instead of me. Of course I was only 14 then, so that could have had something to do with it.
And because he had never met you, too, perhaps?????
Oh yeah, there's that. :
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yankeefan7:
audi:
Excluding the McCartney/MacManus gems, right?
Now that was a good team, wish they had tried to collabate again after FITD.
They were better but I'm still not crazy about them. Maybe I should pull those out again & give them another spin.
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audi:
Production-wise, both "Ebony & Ivory" and "What's That You're Doing?" have not withstood the test of time at all. I tend to think that if "WTYD?" had been produced more like The Who's "Eminence Front," it might've held up better. But it's among my guilty-pleasure songs. And "E&I" -- in all its maudlin glory -- has, at least, the distinction of being No. 1 for seven weeks in the U.S. I think the commercial failure of the Broadstreet film is what did the real damage. My observation regarding Press To Play is that its poor sales are attributed directly to the fact that radio simply didn't play any of the singles, which puzzled me back then -- because I heard "Spies Like Us" and "No More Lonely Nights" constantly on the radio.
Spies Like Us...Oh God, I'd forgotten about that crap. Ebony and Ivory was a big hit everywhere but many thought (me included) it was the worst choice to lift as the first single. The same with Say Say Say. Clearly he was trying to be "hip" by releasing duets with Stevie and Wacko, but in doing so, it was lesser McCartney. The consensus at the time was, "C'mon Paul - we know ya can do better than that!" Chart wise from 1982 > 85...it was all...pap. Even that Once Upon A Long Ago rubbish...when was that? Ebony and Ivory The Girl Is Mine Say Say Say No More Lonely Nights Spies Like Us Once Upon a Long Ago ....yeah...no thanks...at least Take It Away was lifted as a single!!!
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audi:
Excluding the McCartney/MacManus gems, right?
That was a good writing partnership, not only because the songs were better but because they didn't have one another plastered all over the tracks that went on the other's albums.
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If only PAUL had released Veronica...great, great Hofner bass and a rollicking song that he would have done superbly...as good as Costello's lead vocal is, I'd have loved it to have been a Paul McCartney single. Still a wonderful song. Catchy as hell.
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moptops:
If only PAUL had released Veronica...great, great Hofner bass and a rollicking song that he would have done superbly...as good as Costello's lead vocal is, I'd have loved it to have been a Paul McCartney single. Still a wonderful song. Catchy as hell.
Agreed. I remember enjoying that song when it came out and not realizing until quite a while later that Paul co-wrote it!