Angreee!
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To me I see a kind of trilogy in "Ram", "Wild Life" and "Red Rose Speedway". It's McCartney trying to put together the first lineup of Wings. "Ram" is perhaps more hired studio musicians than a band but Denny Seiwell joined Wings. But all three albums are sort of Indie (decades before Indie) and lacks the polish of "Band on the Run" and "Tug of War" type of productions. Early Wings have much more in common with 90s bands like Teenage Fanclub, Dinosaur Jr. and the kind than anything post RRS. It's a particular sound. Kind of garagey and homemade. Indie.
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Here we go again - people saying the production of P2P is bad, but can anyone actually say 'why' they don't like it? Or are they just repeating what others have said? Maybe someone should set up a vote: P2P - Love It/It's OK/Don't like it. It's strange how this album divides though. I can understand why some don't like Pipes of Peace or McCartney II (even though I love them), but not P2P.
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Ram would have been Wings if the 2 sessions guitar players would have join. I wonder with ALL THE LOVE for RAM now, people would have viewed WINGS as a group any better thru history.. but Denny Laine hadn't been asked yet and he was a BIG part of WINGS Sound..
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I think McCartney's discography are very whimsical and varied. I can understand that there are records loved and records trashed by the same listener, especially if you have a type of taste in music and knows what you like. The trobule with Wings why it divids, the way I see it, is that there are none of the contiuation of The Beatles from record to record. Albums like "Wild Life" and "London Town" are like made by two different bands yet they carry the same band name of Wings. It suits my head perfectly. I've always gone from Led Zeppelin to Chris De Burgh and Karlheiz Stockhausen to Barry White. There is no continuation (or straight lines) in my head, it's a whimsical mess.
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Well said
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Well said ...I get tried of people here and on the web who DON'T agree with others views and have to pound their points home...so what it's only music , get over yourself...I always had someone in my life who didnt like McCartney , I DID'NT CARE...he's STILL GOD TO ME ..there's been stuff of his I haven't like either but have gone back and gave it another listen ...there's always SOMETHING great in his music ..
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Yeah, if his solo career was as bad as some people make it, I doubt that I would have listened. I'm quite interested in music in general and have a huge record collection. There will be highlights in a long career but I find him consistently good. He'll make a jazz/standard album, and it works. Next up is The Fireman, and it works... The combination of Paul McCartney and music, that's 100%.
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Even Paul McCartney has acknowledged that Wild Life is a bad album. It's not good, folks. Don't get defensive about. Even the man himself said (referring to Wild Life "You didn't finish the bloody thing."
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John Lennon acknowledged that Sgt. Pepper was a bad album. I never listen to the artists opinion. It can be interesting but with McCartney it's all about the charts. #1 is a great album/song, #2 is a good album/song, #3 is an okay album/song, #4 forget about it...
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Also, if you find interviews with Hugh Padgham who produced "Press to Play", he say that he consider it one of the worst albums he's ever worked on. Here is an interview where he mention the recordings. I don't think it's the one I've read before, but... I found this one now; http://www.classicbands.com/HughPadghamInterview.html
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Hendrix Ibsen:
John Lennon acknowledged that Sgt. Pepper was a bad album. I never listen to the artists opinion...
He did not say that it was a bad album. He said that it is not the concept-album that McCartney purports it to be. And Lennon is correct. The only thematically consistent components on the album are the first two tracks and the closing outro/jam. That's it.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
Also, if you find interviews with Hugh Padgham who produced "Press to Play", he say that he consider it one of the worst albums he's ever worked on. Here is an interview where he mention the recordings. I don't think it's the one I've read before, but... I found this one now; http://www.classicbands.com/HughPadghamInterview.html
Well, it made me a fan.
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audi:
Even Paul McCartney has acknowledged that Wild Life is a bad album. It's not good, folks. Don't get defensive about. Even the man himself said (referring to Wild Life "You didn't finish the bloody thing."
McCartney's not crazy about Press To Play either ..or London Town
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I also think it's a good album. But I also like "Wild Life". It can be fun to read behind the scenes stories. That the artist and producer hate each other aren't rare but sometimes the record is better than the conditions it was made under.
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"London Town" is my favorite Wings album and top 5 McCartney. It's a masterpiece on my stereo.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
"London Town" is my favorite Wings album and top 5 McCartney. It's a masterpiece on my stereo.
You're not far wrong.
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Finally, we're all getting on the same page.
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I gave that up years ago. In my teens-twenties I always wanted people to discover the records I listened to. I thought I'd change the world of music. But...
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Nancy R:
I love the song Tomorrow though!
Me too! (Pity Linda's "backing vocals" are way too up front).
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Wyrdskein:
Here we go again - people saying the production of P2P is bad, but can anyone actually say 'why' they don't like it? Or are they just repeating what others have said? Maybe someone should set up a vote: P2P - Love It/It's OK/Don't like it. It's strange how this album divides though. I can understand why some don't like Pipes of Peace or McCartney II (even though I love them), but not P2P.
Drum sound is pox. Sterile sounding guitars. Horrid keys. Clinical sounding vocals...and Phil Collins was in the vicinity of the studio. Not even Townshend could save it. Stranglehold, Angry and Footprints are the only decent songs. An honourable mention of Move Over Busker, which I always liked although it plods and goes nowhere...Nell Gwynne and her oranges and Errol Flynn in a tiger skin, Mae West in a sweaty vest...gotta love those. Sounds like the entire album was recorded in a germ free operating theatre and engineered by surgeons. Sadly this album flatlined...