Angreee!
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Agreed. Fortunately, in PTP's case: Most fans agree that genuine songs were simply over-polished. You wanna talk turds? Let's switch the topic to Wild Life.
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audi:
Agreed. Fortunately, in PTP's case: Most fans agree that genuine songs were over-polished. You wanna talk turds? Let's switch the topic to Wild Life.
Yet... I don't hate Wild Life..... There's three or four real good offerings... My problem with that album is it is so lazily made/produced at a time when Paul needed the exact opposite to be treated seriously.... terrible timing. A terrible timing of release. That is my main issue. Strip it apart, and if he spent more time on an half-assed effort in some songs, and it could've been really alright. Good. Great. It never eventuated as the album it shouldve been, that all of Beatles' fans wanted there and then, but it wasn't that far off from a kinda primitive Mccartney album.... I might get myself in trouble here.... but move Maybe I'm Amazed or one other predecessor classic to Wild Life.... and then I think Wild Life is much better than the debut album. Far better core of other songs on Wild Life, fo me. Primitive, yes, but better.
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"Wild Life" is a good one. It's like a homemade live recording and "McCartney" with a band, live in the living room while rehearsing. It's just another 'happy accident' where McCartney are ahead of his time and made Indie pop and rock decades before the term even existed.
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Wild Life is the polar-opposite of effectively introducing your band's debut album.
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toris:
audi:
Agreed. Fortunately, in PTP's case: Most fans agree that genuine songs were over-polished. You wanna talk turds? Let's switch the topic to Wild Life.
Yet... I don't hate Wild Life..... There's three or four real good offerings... My problem with that album is it is so lazily made/produced at a time when Paul needed the exact opposite to be treated seriously.... terrible timing. A terrible timing of release. That is my main issue. Strip it apart, and if he spent more time on an half-assed effort in some songs, and it could've been really alright. Good. Great. It never eventuated as the album it shouldve been, that all of Beatles' fans wanted there and then, but it wasn't that far off from a kinda primitive Mccartney album.... I might get myself in trouble here.... but move Maybe I'm Amazed or one other predecessor classic to Wild Life.... and then I think Wild Life is much better than the debut album. Far better core of other songs on Wild Life, fo me. Primitive, yes, but better.
I guess The Beatles' Let It Be had set already set the precedent for that sort of record. Wild Life isn't just lazy; it also reeks of writer's block and a shocking lack of inspiration.
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audi:
Wild Life is the polar-opposite of effectively introducing your band's debut album.
It sounds like "A Catholic Education" by Teenage Fanclub. I have much love for Indie ramshackleness.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
audi:
Wild Life is the polar-opposite of effectively introducing your band's debut album.
It sounds like "A Catholic Education" by Teenage Fanclub. I have much love for Indie ramshackleness.
Let's see...
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audi:
toris:
audi:
Agreed. Fortunately, in PTP's case: Most fans agree that genuine songs were over-polished. You wanna talk turds? Let's switch the topic to Wild Life.
Yet... I don't hate Wild Life..... There's three or four real good offerings... My problem with that album is it is so lazily made/produced at a time when Paul needed the exact opposite to be treated seriously.... terrible timing. A terrible timing of release. That is my main issue. Strip it apart, and if he spent more time on an half-assed effort in some songs, and it could've been really alright. Good. Great. It never eventuated as the album it shouldve been, that all of Beatles' fans wanted there and then, but it wasn't that far off from a kinda primitive Mccartney album.... I might get myself in trouble here.... but move Maybe I'm Amazed or one other predecessor classic to Wild Life.... and then I think Wild Life is much better than the debut album. Far better core of other songs on Wild Life, fo me. Primitive, yes, but better.
I guess The Beatles' Let It Be had set already set the precedent for that sort of record. Wild Life isn't just lazy; it also reeks of writer's block and a shocking lack of inspiration.
It's just a lack of ambition. The inspiration is there. But it's "homegrown".
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audi:
Hendrix Ibsen:
audi:
Wild Life is the polar-opposite of effectively introducing your band's debut album.
It sounds like "A Catholic Education" by Teenage Fanclub. I have much love for Indie ramshackleness.
Let's see...
Great album! It lacks polish but has plenty of charm. I actually prefer ACE to the more recognized followup "Bandwagonesque".
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audi:
Hendrix Ibsen:
audi:
Wild Life is the polar-opposite of effectively introducing your band's debut album.
It sounds like "A Catholic Education" by Teenage Fanclub. I have much love for Indie ramshackleness.
Let's see...
You're right: It's Wild Life With More Distortion. Vocals are pretty flat, though. I don't mind rough vocals (like G. Love & Special Sauce), but this is too hard on me ears.
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audi:
audi:
Hendrix Ibsen:
audi:
Wild Life is the polar-opposite of effectively introducing your band's debut album.
It sounds like "A Catholic Education" by Teenage Fanclub. I have much love for Indie ramshackleness.
Let's see...
You're right: It's Wild Life With More Distortion. Vocals are pretty flat, though. I don't mind rough vocals (like G. Love & Special Sauce), but this is too hard on me ears.
Right, with a 90s distortion. It's a wonderful album if you're in the mood for it. It's amateurish sounding. It's fun to play "A Catholitic Education (1990) and "Shadows" (2010) back to back and listen to their progress as a band. They have become better musicians in the twenty years.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
audi:
audi:
Hendrix Ibsen:
audi:
Wild Life is the polar-opposite of effectively introducing your band's debut album.
It sounds like "A Catholic Education" by Teenage Fanclub. I have much love for Indie ramshackleness.
Let's see...
You're right: It's Wild Life With More Distortion. Vocals are pretty flat, though. I don't mind rough vocals (like G. Love & Special Sauce), but this is too hard on me ears.
Right, with a 90s distortion. It's a wonderful album if you're in the mood for it. It's amateurish sounding. It's fun to play "A Catholitic Education (1990) and "Shadows" (2010) back to back and listen to their progress as a band. They have become better musicians in the twenty years.
Noted. Fortunately, Wings got better over time, too -- all three bands. "ZING!"
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Yeah, I think it's difficult to view Wings as a band. As there aren't the kind of progress you'd expect. It's more like different projects with McCartney in front. In a way, I think Wings are misunderstood. The thing is that "Wild Life" is a much better album than "Band on the Run" in an alternative / Indie genre. Among Indie and low fi fans, there are those who believe "Wild Life" is the best Wings album.
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I can appreciate McCartney. I love McCartney II. But Wild Life is a swing-and-a-miss to me.
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I love the sound in all 3 Albums (McCartney/Ram/Wings Wild Life) ...it was the times , funky period..
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I love the song Tomorrow though!
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To me I see a kind of trilogy in "Ram", "Wild Life" and "Red Rose Speedway". It's McCartney trying to put together the first lineup of Wings. "Ram" is perhaps more hired studio musicians than a band but Denny Seiwell joined Wings. But all three albums are sort of Indie (decades before Indie) and lacks the polish of "Band on the Run" and "Tug of War" type of productions. Early Wings have much more in common with 90s bands like Teenage Fanclub, Dinosaur Jr. and the kind than anything post RRS. It's a particular sound. Kind of garagey and homemade. Indie.
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Here we go again - people saying the production of P2P is bad, but can anyone actually say 'why' they don't like it? Or are they just repeating what others have said? Maybe someone should set up a vote: P2P - Love It/It's OK/Don't like it. It's strange how this album divides though. I can understand why some don't like Pipes of Peace or McCartney II (even though I love them), but not P2P.
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Ram would have been Wings if the 2 sessions guitar players would have join. I wonder with ALL THE LOVE for RAM now, people would have viewed WINGS as a group any better thru history.. but Denny Laine hadn't been asked yet and he was a BIG part of WINGS Sound..
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I think McCartney's discography are very whimsical and varied. I can understand that there are records loved and records trashed by the same listener, especially if you have a type of taste in music and knows what you like. The trobule with Wings why it divids, the way I see it, is that there are none of the contiuation of The Beatles from record to record. Albums like "Wild Life" and "London Town" are like made by two different bands yet they carry the same band name of Wings. It suits my head perfectly. I've always gone from Led Zeppelin to Chris De Burgh and Karlheiz Stockhausen to Barry White. There is no continuation (or straight lines) in my head, it's a whimsical mess.