Worst McCartney album?
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Macsback:
Squid:
LetMeRollIt:
Wings~Wild Life
Hey, thanks for sharing that. Don't forget to collect your personality from the cloakroom on the way out.
and don't bother picking up your £200 for passing go, just go
I can't tell who's being snarked at in all of that. But Wild Life is an album I'm coming around to. I still don't get Mumbo. But I have come to love every song on Side 2 of that album (as well as Love is Strange). Wouldn't the best of McCartney and Wild Life have made an awesome album?
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Michelley:
Macsback:
Squid:
LetMeRollIt:
Wings~Wild Life
Hey, thanks for sharing that. Don't forget to collect your personality from the cloakroom on the way out.
and don't bother picking up your £200 for passing go, just go
I can't tell who's being snarked at in all of that. But Wild Life is an album I'm coming around to. I still don't get Mumbo. But I have come to love every song on Side 2 of that album (as well as Love is Strange). Wouldn't the best of McCartney and Wild Life have made an awesome album?
the only song i dont like on Wildlife is, "I am your Singer" the best from McCartney & Wildlife would as you say, made some album, then again, he could have brought out Band on the Run at that time and would still have got crucified..
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Macsback:
the only song i dont like on Wildlife is, "I am your Singer"
This would have been a nice addition to the MTV unplugged album in 1991 if Paul would have included any Wings numbers. and speaking of Wild Life, here is my review: http://www.beatlessweden.com/modules/smartsection/item.php?itemid=10&sel_lang=english
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stuartjb:
Posibbly Wings at the Speed of Sound or Wildlife.But it's relative, because its better than most other artists best stuff.
I think a lot of it comes down to which of the lesser albums have the biggest redeeming features and both of those have big redeeming features. Wildlife's title track and Tomorrow and on SOS Let 'em in and Beware my love. I think that's pretty much the case with most of them though although I don't think any of them are that bad, most of them are fine enough for me.
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Michelley:
But Wild Life is an album I'm coming around to. I still don't get Mumbo. But I have come to love every song on Side 2 of that album (as well as Love is Strange). Wouldn't the best of McCartney and Wild Life have made an awesome album?
My understanding of Mumbo is that it's Paul taking the piss out of all that primal therapy that was fashionable at the time - the mumbo jumbo approach to psychosis, and which Lennon had undergone for a while. However, I'd rather it wasn't even that - starting an album called Wild Life with a lot of screaming and noise sounds pretty apt to me. Taking a walk through an African Park one day I saw a sign say The animals have the right of way.
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It seems that this thread will last forever!I'm gonna make the best mcca album but not yet,dont steal my idea!
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Squid:
[ My understanding of Mumbo is that it's Paul taking the piss out of all that primal therapy that was fashionable at the time - the mumbo jumbo approach to psychosis, and which Lennon had undergone for a while. However, I'd rather it wasn't even that - starting an album called Wild Life with a lot of screaming and noise sounds pretty apt to me.
Never thought about that before. That fit's in with the bitchy side of Paul. Mumbo's an odd song which is good enough for me.
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[quote="quad73"][quote="Macsback"]the only song i dont like on Wildlife is, "I am your Singer" This would have been a nice addition to the MTV unplugged album in 1991 if Paul would have included any Wings numbers. quote] I emailed Robbie McIntosh via his website a few years ago and asked him about the lack of Wings tunes in the show. He said that "Heart Of The Country" and "She's My Baby" were rehearsed but for reasons he didn't know, Paul decided not to include them in the show. He also said "Wild Life" was rehearsed for the '89 tour.
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[quote="firemedic"]
quad73:
Macsback:
the only song i dont like on Wildlife is, "I am your Singer"
This would have been a nice addition to the MTV unplugged album in 1991 if Paul would have included any Wings numbers. quote] I emailed Robbie McIntosh via his website a few years ago and asked him about the lack of Wings tunes in the show. He said that "Heart Of The Country" and "She's My Baby" were rehearsed but for reasons he didn't know, Paul decided not to include them in the show. He also said "Wild Life" was rehearsed for the '89 tour.
thats interesting 'fire'. i love getting hold of info like that! although i wouldn't mind getting hold of the rehearsal tapes!
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Hi, Audi, Macsback, Lazydynamite88 and EVERYBODY! OK, Here Goes: First off, I am a fervent fan of the Beatles'/Paul McCartney's music, along with the music of the other 'Big Three--John/George/Ringo. That said, here comes the main long and winding DISCLAIMER: Even though I personally love and thoroughly enjoy McCartney albums such as 'Wild Life', and 'Back to the Egg', etc. because they ROCK and others because they 'pop', when compared to ALL-TIME classic albums like The Beatles' Sgt. Peppers's.../Revolver, The Rolling Stones' Aftermath/Beggar's Banquet, The Kinks' 'Village Green Preservation Society/Something Else The Who's 'Who's Next'/'Tommy', Jimi Hendrix's 'Are You Experienced?'/'Electric Ladyland', The Beach Boys' 'Pet Sounds'/'Sunflower'(not to leave out the 'Smile' Sessions), Stevie Wonder's 'Innervisions'/'Songs in the Key of Life' and hundreds of other Rock/Pop/Soul albums, many of 'Our Hero's LPs do not, unfortunately, quite measure up. Awww. So, the following is my dodgy all-purpose MINIMUM Value grading of all of Sir Paul's studio platters. If YOU like or love a particular disc, just up the grade(s) a notch or two--they're just one dudes current tally--not written in stone, standing or otherwise. [small lol] Whew!!
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pafaeser:
Hi, Audi, Macsback, Lazydynamite88 and EVERYBODY! OK, Here Goes: First off, I am a fervent fan of the Beatles'/Paul McCartney's music, along with the music of the other 'Big Three--John/George/Ringo. That said, here comes the main long and winding DISCLAIMER: Even though I personally love and thoroughly enjoy McCartney albums such as 'Wild Life', and 'Back to the Egg', etc. because they ROCK and others because they 'pop', when compared to ALL-TIME classic albums like The Beatles' Sgt. Peppers's.../Revolver, The Rolling Stones' Aftermath/Beggar's Banquet, The Kinks' 'Village Green Preservation Society/Something Else The Who's 'Who's Next'/'Tommy', Jimi Hendrix's 'Are You Experienced?'/'Electric Ladyland', The Beach Boys' 'Pet Sounds'/'Sunflower'(not to leave out the 'Smile' Sessions), Stevie Wonder's 'Innervisions'/'Songs in the Key of Life' and hundreds of other Rock/Pop/Soul albums, many of 'Our Hero's LPs do not, unfortunately, quite measure up. Awww. So, the following is my dodgy all-purpose MINIMUM Value grading of all of Sir Paul's studio platters. If YOU like or love a particular disc, just up the grade(s) a notch or two--they're just one dudes current tally--not written in stone, standing or otherwise. [small lol] Whew!!
should be intersesting. i will check it out when i come back from work later. however you do realise that i dissagree with your opening statement!
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pafaeser:
Hi, Audi, Macsback, Lazydynamite88 and EVERYBODY! OK, Here Goes: First off, I am a fervent fan of the Beatles'/Paul McCartney's music, along with the music of the other 'Big Three--John/George/Ringo. That said, here comes the main long and winding DISCLAIMER: Even though I personally love and thoroughly enjoy McCartney albums such as 'Wild Life', and 'Back to the Egg', etc. because they ROCK and others because they 'pop', when compared to ALL-TIME classic albums like The Beatles' Sgt. Peppers's.../Revolver, The Rolling Stones' Aftermath/Beggar's Banquet, The Kinks' 'Village Green Preservation Society/Something Else The Who's 'Who's Next'/'Tommy', Jimi Hendrix's 'Are You Experienced?'/'Electric Ladyland', The Beach Boys' 'Pet Sounds'/'Sunflower'(not to leave out the 'Smile' Sessions), Stevie Wonder's 'Innervisions'/'Songs in the Key of Life' and hundreds of other Rock/Pop/Soul albums, many of 'Our Hero's LPs do not, unfortunately, quite measure up. Awww. So, the following is my dodgy all-purpose MINIMUM Value grading of all of Sir Paul's studio platters. If YOU like or love a particular disc, just up the grade(s) a notch or two--they're just one dudes current tally--not written in stone, standing or otherwise. [small lol] Whew!!
Where's the "following" part???
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McCartney C+ Ram B Wild Life C- Red Rose Speedway C+ Band on the Run A Venus and Mars B+ Wings at the Speed of Sound B- London Town B Back to the Egg C+ McCartney II C+ Tug of War B+ Pipes of Peace C- Give My Regards to Broad Street [ST] C+ Press to Play C+ Choba B CCCP B- Flowers in the Dirt B Off the Ground C Flaming Pie B Run Devil Run B- Driving Rain C Chaos and Creation in the Backyard B Memory Almost Full B- [Electric Arguments B+]*as The Fireman [McGear B+]** by Mike McGear--Paul's Brother. Anyway, to quote the man himself, 'That's Basically It.' Don't forget though, that litterally DOZENS of excellent Paul McCartney recordings are hidden away on b-sides and non-LP singles, various artists albums, etc. HAPPY HUNTING!!!! Best Wishes, Pat.
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pafaeser:
McCartney C+ Ram B Wild Life C- Red Rose Speedway C+ Band on the Run A Venus and Mars B+ Wings at the Speed of Sound B- London Town B Back to the Egg C+ McCartney II C+ Tug of War B+ Pipes of Peace C- Give My Regards to Broad Street [ST] C+ Press to Play C+ Choba B CCCP B- Flowers in the Dirt B Off the Ground C Flaming Pie B Run Devil Run B- Driving Rain C Chaos and Creation in the Backyard B Memory Almost Full B- [Electric Arguments B+]*as The Fireman [McGear B+]** by Mike McGear--Paul's Brother. Anyway, to quote the man himself, 'That's Basically It.' Don't forget though, that litterally DOZENS of excellent Paul McCartney recordings are hidden away on b-sides and non-LP singles, various artists albums, etc. HAPPY HUNTING!!!! Best Wishes, Pat.
Logic and intresting rating an
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In Conclusion, please remember that NEW Compact Discs cost approximately 15.00 US Dollars each and so a fun little album like, say 'Wild Life', as issued, with NO bonus tracks, is only 8 regular songs of varying quality for 15 Bucks. OUCH!! Oh, Yeah, I've actually heard EVERY track on all of these Lps, although, obviously, the songs that didn't 'grab me' aren't easy for me to recall (if at all). Lol! Take Care, Everybody. 'Bye for Now. Pat. Now back to our regularly scheduled program.....
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pafaeser:
In Conclusion, please remember that NEW Compact Discs cost approximately 15.00 US Dollars each and so a fun little album like, say 'Wild Life', as issued, with NO bonus tracks, is only 8 regular songs of varying quality for 15 Bucks. OUCH!! Oh, Yeah, I've actually heard EVERY track on all of these Lps, although, obviously, the songs that didn't 'grab me' aren't easy for me to recall (if at all). Lol! Take Care, Everybody. 'Bye for Now. Pat. Now back to our regularly scheduled program.....
i suppose its all down to personal taste, at least none of his albums got a D
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pafaeser:
McCartney C+ Ram B
Well you lost me at the Ram grade. You've low-balled him. It's clearly an A.
And even cranky Pitchfork agrees with me. Yesterday I was reading a Pitchfork review of Eddie Vedder's new solo album and almost fell off my chair when I came to this sentence:
The album's best moments-- "Sleeping By Myself", "Without You", "Longing to Belong"-- tap the same quietly wounded melancholy as Paul McCartney's 1971 proto-indie pop masterpiece Ram.
That's how I view Ram. But to each his/her own.
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Michelley:
pafaeser:
McCartney C+ Ram B
Well you lost me at the Ram grade. You've low-balled him. It's clearly an A.
And even cranky Pitchfork agrees with me. Yesterday I was reading a Pitchfork review of Eddie Vedder's new solo album and almost fell off my chair when I came to this sentence:
The album's best moments-- "Sleeping By Myself", "Without You", "Longing to Belong"-- tap the same quietly wounded melancholy as Paul McCartney's 1971 proto-indie pop masterpiece Ram.
That's how I view Ram. But to each his/her own.
Ram is a masterpiece! A definate A+++++ Its flawless from start to finish in my opinion. It also shows Paul's vocal range in all its glory and probably around his vocal peak.
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Hi, Everybody! I really like/love the 'Ram' album, too, but the 'Band on the Run' album is the one that made Paul a 'solo' legend. 'Ram' has a lot of fine tracks on it and a great 'sound', but the tunes are a bit 'lightweight' [dare I say it?] and a few of them. like 'Long Haired Lady' are flawed. I'm not a big fan of '3 Legs' either, though a lot of other folks enjoy it. The 'Band on the Run' songs are more 'solid' [IMHO, again] and two of them (or three in the US) became major hits. Anyway, I did state that those who really loved a specific album should feel free to kick the grade up a notch or two. Plus, a solid 'B'--minimum, is a GOOD/FINE grade. Finally, in it's day [1971] it wasn't that well thought of [see 'The Beatles: An Illustrated Record' by Roy Carr and Tony(?) Tyler [book] for a late '70's/ early '80's review (give or take-- depending on the edition). As long as they're all 'in print'--I'm cool with it! Best Wishes, Pat. P.S. To Macsback: Big Smile. I understand. I have a lot of fun with 'Wild Life', too, although I don't feel it's one of Paul's best. 'Bye.
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pafaeser:
Hi, Everybody! I really like/love the 'Ram' album, too, but the 'Band on the Run' album is the one that made Paul a 'solo' legend. 'Ram' has a lot of fine tracks on it and a great 'sound', but the tunes are a bit 'lightweight' [dare I say it?] and a few of them. like 'Long Haired Lady' are flawed. I'm not a big fan of '3 Legs' either, though a lot of other folks enjoy it. The 'Band on the Run' songs are more 'solid' [IMHO, again] and two of them (or three in the US) became major hits. Anyway, I did state that those who really loved a specific album should feel free to kick the grade up a notch or two. Plus, a solid 'B'--minimum, is a GOOD/FINE grade. Finally, in it's day [1971] it wasn't that well thought of [see 'The Beatles: An Illustrated Record' by Roy Carr and Tony(?) Tyler [book] for a late '70's/ early '80's review (give or take-- depending on the edition). As long as they're all 'in print'--I'm cool with it! Best Wishes, Pat. P.S. To Macsback: Big Smile. I understand. I have a lot of fun with 'Wild Life', too, although I don't feel it's one of Paul's best. 'Bye.
Well opinions about a record can change. The conventional wisdom about Ram when it was released turned out to be dead wrong. It doesn't really matter what people thought then. What matters is whether an album has legs, whether people are still listening to it now. People have been rediscovering Ram for about five years now and I see more and more people saying that Ram, not BOTR, is Paul's "masterpiece," as it was described in that recent Pitchfork article. Is it lightweight? I don't think so. It's actually a pretty angry, melancholy album at times, yet also manages to feel joyous and airy at other times. Just my two cents, though.