Could the new Kanye/McCartney single All Day be his best?
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perhaps???
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Okay so Paul, actually himself, is comparing Kanye to John Lennon. So I think it is due to one or more of the following reasons: 1.) Paul actually died in 1966. 2.) Paul is "experimenting" with plants again. 3.) Paul just likes being around Kanye's wife's a$$. 4.) He needs to take a break from working and rest his brain ALOT. Just my opinion. * I am exiting this thread now.
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Dear Lord...when will folks stop taking the bait? Paul is shrewdly aware that these Kanye/Lennon comparisons are good for press.
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I was being funny... Just wanted to laugh. Kidding everyone!
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Paul loves talking about the Beatles & playing their songs. He compares EVERYONE to John because he thinks that what some want to hear. He also has said that about others & the others are way more believable.
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I think he just likes collaborating with people who have a "harder edge" every once in a while, and someone he can bounce ideas off of, where each one spurs the other to create something new. Comparing that to John Lennon is just a shorthand way of saying that, because John was the first one (and the most famous, and the best) that he did that with.
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audi:
Dear Lord...when will folks stop taking the bait?
Whenever the next big thing has its 15 minutes.
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I can understand the association with Lennon. Style-related they can't be more different, West uses the studio as an instrument, Lennon thought there were too much production on "Sgt. Pepper", he was only interested in songs. But I find a like-minded desire to make as little compromise as possible with what they do. Which I guess can be difficult, because they are at the top of their game in pop business, there is a pressure to make music that sells, yet they want to be cutting edge. But so is McCartney, if you ask me. A pioneering artist. He has only a slightly more polite personality.
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beatlesfanrandy:
RMartinez:
nobodytoldme:
RMartinez:
nobodytoldme:
Boom, Kanye West flew out to Armenia for a free gig for the people there earlier today, who else does that? A treasure of my generation. But let's find some TMZ-articles on his wife to roll our eyes at.Wow! He really IS like John Lennon! :
Argueing against McCartney himself again? http://www.thesun.co.uk/sol/homepage/showbiz/bizarre/6435894/Paul-McCartney-world-exclusive-Writing-with-Kanye-was-the-same-as-with-John.html
Yup. Elvis Costello is more like John Lennon. So is Denny Laine!
Sorry...Denny Laine is nowhere in the same league as John Lennon. :
Compared to Kanye West he is. Which was my point.
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favoritething:
I think he just likes collaborating with people who have a "harder edge" every once in a while, and someone he can bounce ideas off of, where each one spurs the other to create something new. Comparing that to John Lennon is just a shorthand way of saying that, because John was the first one (and the most famous, and the best) that he did that with.
That's cool. Except Paul has also gone a long way to dispel the idea that John was the harder rocker and more artsy. I think a song like Only Mama Knows goes a lot further in making Paul's case that he can rock, than collaborating on hip hop songs, which is a genre out of his style of music. Sorry, but he doesn't look cool doing it. Yes, he has also composed classical music, but that is part of the Beatles canon (Yesterday, Eleanor Rigby).
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Kanye West has had five consecutive #1 albums. He is a pop music's hip hop artist. Probably one of the biggest in the genre with a rare long career for a rapper. He started in the music business for twenty years ago and debuted with his own music for nearly fifteen years ago. Since then has been on top, which is rare in hip hip. He's a veteran. Denny Laine has done good things, but perhaps most as a member, and to a lesser extent as soloartist? Elvis Costello is a solo artist. He began as a pop artist but thought it was musically narrowly and has moved through many genres, even classical music, not unlike .. There are similarities and differences between them all I think. Well, just a bit of fun to draw...
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RMartinez:
favoritething:
I think he just likes collaborating with people who have a "harder edge" every once in a while, and someone he can bounce ideas off of, where each one spurs the other to create something new. Comparing that to John Lennon is just a shorthand way of saying that, because John was the first one (and the most famous, and the best) that he did that with.
That's cool. Except Paul has also gone a long way to dispel the idea that John was the harder rocker and more artsy. I think a song like Only Mama Knows goes a lot further in making Paul's case that he can rock, than collaborating on hip hop songs, which is a genre out of his style of music. Sorry, but he doesn't look cool doing it. Yes, he has also composed classical music, but that is part of the Beatles canon (Yesterday, Eleanor Rigby).
The harder edge I'm talking about has more to do with John's persona and his lyrics, kind of a caustic attitude. Paul has done that here and there, but it doesn't come all that naturally to him. "Only Mama Knows" rocks hard, but the lyrics... well, let's just say they're no match for "Mother" as far as being visceral and cutting. Both Elvis Costello and Kanye West can summon up visceral and cutting effortlessly.
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I think Lennon basically was a rocker. McCartney also has a rocker inside him but it's more staged, only one side of his musical curiosity.
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John the rocker
Paul the balladeer George the quiet one Ringo -
Yes, the Beatle sterotype is perhaps too generalizing and skin-deep but I can also understand them, superficially.
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Stereotypes, yes, but it just came more easily for John, that deep-down, soul-baring sense of catharsis. With Paul, as HI says, it's more staged; you know he's just kind of acting the part, enjoying it as a performer, but it's rarely emotionally deep when he's being aggressive. I mean, "Spin It On" tells you nothing about Paul, but even a gentle John song like "Oh My Love" has dark undercurrents about his emotional past.
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Yes, but don't forget that music doesn't need to be anything other than music. I'm listening quite a lot to Mozart these days, and the way he treats music, the lighthearted melodies... It's almost like McCartney has been tasked to continue this. And let's not forget that McCartney has allowed more darkness into his songs over the years, perhaps especially after "Flaming Pie". "Chaos and Creation"... But Wings, it's hits and fun, with songs written by the master of the genre.
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True, he has gotten darker since then. I guess the important point is that while he was working with John, and while John was alive, that was not so much the case. But of course that's not to say I enjoy John more than Paul, because Paul would win that battle!
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No wonder Paul worked with Kanye: http://www.pollstar.com/news_article.aspx?ID=817999
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I doubt that a free creative spirit like Paul McCartney run computer statistics to find his musical ways.