Worst line from a McCartney song
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Inspector Sands:
Much of the stuff off Chaos seems bad, Fine Line for instance sounds a bit like Bing's Accentuate the Positive, Riding to Vanity Fair and Anyway deals in trite stuff imo. English Tea... very twee, very me. It's like Paul is being faced down by Goodwich to no good effect.
yeah its like Godrich is all about leading the artist down the road of introspection and reflection on his albums.. but really its just the road to boring sounding songs aparently when he's doing it. I'm wth you there Inspector. I fault the production on Chaos just as much as the songs. Godrich should try hooking up with Enya.. they might dig each other. and i like some Enya I've heard, but I just think their styles might meet up there in the middle. and thats it for this installment of 'ripping on Godrich's work on Chaos'
I mean how many organs and string sections does that guy keep in his back pocket? someone hand him a guitar, explain how it works for Pete's sake. yeah its called a rock n roll electric guitar dude, lets put the xylophones and ambiant noises away for a second.. installment complete
of course there are people who love Chaos and think Godrich nailed it, so you just never know. I don't think the lyrics on it are anything special. the tracks are way more lyrical than melodical too, which makes for a conundrum. (sp?)
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kapoo:
Inspector Sands:
Much of the stuff off Chaos seems bad, Fine Line for instance sounds a bit like Bing's Accentuate the Positive, Riding to Vanity Fair and Anyway deals in trite stuff imo. English Tea... very twee, very me. It's like Paul is being faced down by Goodwich to no good effect.
yeah its like Godrich is all about leading the artist down the road of introspection and reflection on his albums.. but really its just the road to boring sounding songs aparently when he's doing it. I'm wth you there Inspector. I fault the production on Chaos just as much as the songs. Godrich should try hooking up with Enya.. they might dig each other. and i like some Enya I've heard, but I just think their styles might meet up there in the middle. and thats it for this installment of 'ripping on Godrich's work on Chaos'
I mean how many organs and string sections does that guy keep in his back pocket? someone hand him a guitar, explain how it works for Pete's sake. yeah its called a rock n roll electric guitar dude, lets put the xylophones and ambiant noises away for a second.. installment complete
of course there are people who love Chaos and think Godrich nailed it, so you just never know. I don't think the lyrics on it are anything special. the tracks are way more lyrical than melodical too, which makes for a conundrum. (sp?)
Ooh, Kapoo! Such uncalled for heretical remarks on a thread entitled "worst line from a McCartney song"! We have very different taste, obviously! Your dissing the beautiful songs on Chaos makes me almost worry about the fact you like my Penguin song so much!
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illwobble:
Ooh, Kapoo! Such uncalled for heretical remarks on a thread entitled "worst line from a McCartney song"! We have very different taste, obviously! Your dissing the beautiful songs on Chaos makes me almost worry about the fact you like my Penguin song so much!
Well I?m grading Paul on a much more difficult scale than I?m grading you on my friend.
Probably an unfair scale? I hold Paul to such high standards.. they guy made RAM, V&M, BOTR? and the Beatles. Chaos is just not on my Paul radar. Music needs to have a hooky and basic rock n roll aesthetic for me to get into it. Chaos is just missing that hooky melodic quality I love so much about Paul?s music. Its missing the ?pop?, and the basslines.. I?ve said it before, for me loving Chaos as your favorite Paul album like so many say they do, is like loving Paul for qualities that basically have nothing to do with what has made Paul the greatest pop/rock writer ever. The fact that so many critics act like its some kind of high water mark baffles me? I think there was a lot of critics jumping on the bandwagon and trying to sound smart with all the great reviews of that one. Over time I think Chaos will fall farther and farther out of sight in the McCartney pantheon. Plus your song Penguin has a certain charm to it. its simple, and its not trying to be anything more than it is; a nice melody about simplicity and hopefulness. I?d like to hear English Tea for example, in that type of arrangement. just Paul and a piano. or just Paul and an acoustic guitar. All the production is just over the top and unnecessary. Its like that on every song for me on Chaos. I do like Jenny Wren and some of the other songs too, but the overall tone of the album I don?t typically search out to hear. Obviously my opinion of it is more or less meaningless. Paul has every right to try all styles, and producers. and that willingness too is part of what makes him so special. In fairness to Godrich, he has a vision when he works with an artist, and he?s true to that vision. so I can dig that about him. But I?m a big Beck fan too, and Godrich produced my least favorite Beck albums as well. Its just a matter of taste. at my heart I?m an alt rock guy who's always looking for hooky melodies. Chaos falls short for me.
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Hehe, no I do understand your different taste. I also love most of the tracks of Paul that you love, but some of my favorites are Fool on the Hill, Eleanor Rigby, At The Mercy, and Anyway, tracks with lots of orchestration and mood, and interesting lyrics.
kapoo:
Music needs to have a hooky and basic rock n roll aesthetic for me to get into it. Chaos is just missing that hooky melodic quality I love so much about Paul?s music. Its missing the ?pop?, and the basslines.. I?ve said it before, for me loving Chaos as your favorite Paul album like so many say they do, is like loving Paul for qualities that basically have nothing to do with what has made Paul the greatest pop/rock writer ever.
I notice you had to stop short of saying "what made Paul the greatest writer ever" by only picking out a couple of the many styles he can write in!! He writes great pop and rock stuff, but what I really love about his music is the variety, and the fact he can also write gems like Blackbird, and then something like Temporary Secretary and also full-on orchestral arrangements, and something like We All Stand Together, and so much other stuff. Anyway, getting vaguely back on topic, the lyrics on Chaos generally are fully-rounded, mature, intelligent, and the whole thing makes me happy! I'm not quite sure whether it's my favorite Paul album or not, but I love it.
kapoo:
The fact that so many critics act like its some kind of high water mark baffles me? I think there was a lot of critics jumping on the bandwagon and trying to sound smart with all the great reviews of that one. Over time I think Chaos will fall farther and farther out of sight in the McCartney pantheon.
Time will tell.
ANyway, back to topic: YES, MATE, YOU HEARD RIGHT, HE ALWAYS HAD A FEELING THAT HE MIGHT HAVE LACKED A LITTLE HEIGHT. (Average Person)
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Up popped a sea lion ready to go
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That "Dustbin Lid" line from "The Other Me" song has apparently proved irksome to many. But that's such a sexy sounding song. Nothing bothers me about it. "I was feeling like a dustbin lid"
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SusyLuvsPaul:
That "Dustbin Lid" line from "The Other Me" song has apparently proved irksome to many. But that's such a sexy sounding song. Nothing bothers me about it. "I was feeling like a dustbin lid"
It's Cockney rhyming slang--dustbin lid=kid http://www.cockneyrhymingslang.co.uk/slang/dustbin_lid
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We all know that people are the same wherever we go....
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The entire lyric of Average Person.
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"And if you take your love away from me, I'm only gonna want it back." Oh geez...there's heaps of examples. TISHLOADS of duff lyrics!!!
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"Help me to learn songs of joy instead of burn, baby burn."
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As a music man he's more of a melody man, but he HAS come up with great lyrics much more often than given credit for accomplishing. He would get so caught up in the melody he just jotted down some throwaway lines, and then sometimes didn't come back later to revise. He was more happy go lucky and larky than intellectually agonizing, engaged in endlessly pondering--he did more of the latter composing his "Chaos and Creation" album and caught some grief for that, too--as if he could please no-one, so he might as well please himself.
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"Well Her Clothes Were Not Expensive Her Hair Didn't Always Curl" Paul even said it was bad!
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RMartinez:
"Well Her Clothes Were Not Expensive Her Hair Didn't Always Curl" Paul even said it was bad!
"She was just seventeen - never been a beauty queen..."
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moptops:
RMartinez:
"Well Her Clothes Were Not Expensive Her Hair Didn't Always Curl" Paul even said it was bad!
"She was just seventeen - never been a beauty queen..."
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Yup!
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RMartinez:
moptops:
RMartinez:
"Well Her Clothes Were Not Expensive Her Hair Didn't Always Curl" Paul even said it was bad!
"She was just seventeen - never been a beauty queen..."
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Yup!
Thank God for John to fix that!
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On the day that I die, I'd like jokes to be told And stories of old to be rolled out like carpets That children have played on and laid on While listening to stories of old Why repeat the same phrase? It really grates.
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I love the lyrics of Average Person, especially concerning the boxer looking in the corner of his memory and that he lacked a certain height. Very cool tune. To answer the topic, the BipBop chant is pretty lame.
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Wyrdskein:
On the day that I die, I'd like jokes to be told And stories of old to be rolled out like carpets That children have played on and laid on While listening to stories of old Why repeat the same phrase? It really grates.
You're kidding, right? That's the whole point, that the verse comes 'round full circle. The other verse, "On the day that I die, I'd like bells to be rung..." does the same thing. These are among the best lyric's Paul's ever written, and the song still chokes me up.
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wingsoverkc:
I love the lyrics of Average Person, especially concerning the boxer looking in the corner of his memory and that he lacked a certain height. Very cool tune. To answer the topic, the BipBop chant is pretty lame.
Even Paul agrees with that! (Bip Bop)