KOTB charting
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dcshark:
walliebaby:
I feel like we've strayed far away from the KOTB charting topic.
Anyone know when the Billboard chart is updated? Any predictions? I think its still #1 on the jazz charts but slipped out of the top 10 on the pop charts.
The Billboard 200 is out for this week, and KOTB is at No. 20. And it's still No. 1 on the jazz chart.
Which is about what I expected. I'm still surprised the album has done as well as it has, given the quirkiness of the project.
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I didn't know where else to put this but there's an interview with the jazz bassist Stanley Clarke -- a legend of the jazz world -- and he mentions Paul a few times. He actually worked with Paul on Tug of War, among other albums. http://somethingelsereviews.com/2012/02/29/something-else-interview-stanley-clarke-of-return-to-forever/ His two key comments about Paul:
You can see, if you study the music, the way certain influences culminate in one player. ... There were a lot of them: James Jamerson, even Paul McCartney ? he was one of the first melodic bass players.
Interviewer: You mentioned Paul McCartney, with whom you appeared on a couple of projects, 1982?s Tug of War and 1983?s Pipes of Peace. What was that experience like? STANLEY CLARKE: He?s a beautiful player. Of all of the recordings I?ve played on, those two records are among the most memorable. We went down to this island, and I hung out with Paul for a couple of weeks. I really, really had a lot of fun. He?s a very melodic player. Melody just comes right out of him. That?s only natural for him to play the bass like that. He does it without thinking. He?s a writer who sings songs, so it was only natural when he plays the bass, his lines would be very melodic.
I love it when a bass player of Clarke's caliber praises Paul's importance/influence as a bass player.
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Michelley:
I didn't know where else to put this but there's an interview with the jazz bassist Stanley Clarke -- a legend of the jazz world -- and he mentions Paul a few times. He actually worked with Paul on Tug of War, among other albums. http://somethingelsereviews.com/2012/02/29/something-else-interview-stanley-clarke-of-return-to-forever/ His two key comments about Paul:
You can see, if you study the music, the way certain influences culminate in one player. ... There were a lot of them: James Jamerson, even Paul McCartney ? he was one of the first melodic bass players.
Interviewer: You mentioned Paul McCartney, with whom you appeared on a couple of projects, 1982?s Tug of War and 1983?s Pipes of Peace. What was that experience like? STANLEY CLARKE: He?s a beautiful player. Of all of the recordings I?ve played on, those two records are among the most memorable. We went down to this island, and I hung out with Paul for a couple of weeks. I really, really had a lot of fun. He?s a very melodic player. Melody just comes right out of him. That?s only natural for him to play the bass like that. He does it without thinking. He?s a writer who sings songs, so it was only natural when he plays the bass, his lines would be very melodic.
I love it when a bass player of Clarke's caliber praises Paul's importance/influence as a bass player.
It's nice when other musicians of that caliber recognize Paul and his musicianship.
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You stole what I was going to say Queenie! haha Nice quote
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Darth_McCartney:
You stole what I was going to say Queenie! haha Nice quote
Like mother, like son.
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walliebaby:
Darth_McCartney:
You stole what I was going to say Queenie! haha Nice quote
Like mother, like son.
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Given how much better KOTB is doing than I thought it would, I wonder if it's going to wind up outselling Electric Arguments? Again, EA was not put out with much fanfare, or with Paul's name on it, so its underwhelming sales aren't a reflection of the quality of the album, but more of the above-mentioned issues.
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walliebaby:
Given how much better KOTB is doing than I thought it would, I wonder if it's going to wind up outselling Electric Arguments? Again, EA was not put out with much fanfare, or with Paul's name on it, so its underwhelming sales aren't a reflection of the quality of the album, but more of the above-mentioned issues.
Actually Paul's name was on EA -- directly on a sticker placed on the plastic wrap that surrounded the CD. It was clearly marked a McCartney album. Also, the album was in the "Paul McCartney" section everywhere I saw it here in the States, and still is. Paul did plenty of promotion for it -- appearing on Ellen DeGeneres' TV show (a very popular show here) to promote it, and he also was on The View (Barbara Walters' show) to promote it. He did lots of interviews for EA and it got strong reviews all over the place. So it DID have a fair bit of promotion. It just didn't chart that well for reasons I've never understood. KOTB benefited from timing (it's Paul's first album in awhile) and from the fact that his steady touring for the past 3 years has put him in the public eye for his music (rather than for his divorce, which was the case when EA came out.). Plus it got a big push by him being on the Grammy's and being sold in Starbucks and Target. The iTunes promotion also helped. And the huge hullabaloo on Twitter over the title gave the album a massive amount of free publicity. As for total EA sales, I've never seen any actual figures for how many copies its sold. Whatever it has sold, it's not enough!!
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Michelley:
walliebaby:
Given how much better KOTB is doing than I thought it would, I wonder if it's going to wind up outselling Electric Arguments? Again, EA was not put out with much fanfare, or with Paul's name on it, so its underwhelming sales aren't a reflection of the quality of the album, but more of the above-mentioned issues.
Actually Paul's name was on EA -- directly on a sticker placed on the plastic wrap that surrounded the CD. It was clearly marked a McCartney album. Also, the album was in the "Paul McCartney" section everywhere I saw it here in the States, and still is. Paul did plenty of promotion for it -- appearing on Ellen DeGeneres' TV show (a very popular show here) to promote it, and he also was on The View (Barbara Walters' show) to promote it. He did lots of interviews for EA and it got strong reviews all over the place. So it DID have a fair bit of promotion. It just didn't chart that well for reasons I've never understood. KOTB benefited from timing (it's Paul's first album in awhile) and from the fact that his steady touring for the past 3 years has put him in the public eye for his music (rather than for his divorce, which was the case when EA came out.). Plus it got a big push by him being on the Grammy's and being sold in Starbucks and Target. The iTunes promotion also helped. And the huge hullabaloo on Twitter over the title gave the album a massive amount of free publicity. As for total EA sales, I've never seen any actual figures for how many copies its sold. Whatever it has sold, it's not enough!!
As I posted earlier, Paul himself regretted not putting EA out as a Paul album because it didn't get as much fanfare as it would have if it had been a Paul album. Despite the sticker, it's still not a Paul album, as it's out under the Fireman name, which is how it was placed in some CD stores, like some of the ones where I live.
I didn't realize Paul was on Ellen for EA...I know he was on promoting C&C, and I thought that was the last time he was on. Now I have something new to look for on youtube.
He was on Howard Stern promoting EA (Howard's favorite song from the album: "Highway"), but I didn't know he'd also done Ellen. Compared to the usual promotion/magazine covers/endless interviews, etc., EA was left a bit in the dust by what KOTB and MAF received. He's been on the cover of several large music magazines for KOTB, and was buried in the middle of several, but getting good reviews, for EA... Again, thanks for the Ellen tip--I've never come across anything for his appearance on there for EA. Do you have any links or know what songs he played?
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walliebaby:
I didn't realize Paul was on Ellen for EA...I know he was on promoting C&C, and I thought that was the last time he was on. Now I have something new to look for on youtube.
He was on Howard Stern promoting EA (Howard's favorite song from the album: "Highway"), but I didn't know he'd also done Ellen. Compared to the usual promotion/magazine covers/endless interviews, etc., EA was left a bit in the dust by what KOTB and MAF received. He's been on the cover of several large music magazines for KOTB, and was buried in the middle of several, but getting good reviews, for EA... Again, thanks for the Ellen tip--I've never come across anything for his appearance on there for EA. Do you have any links or know what songs he played?
Oops. I might have been confused about his Ellen performance.
ops:
ops: I think you're right; that was for Chaos. But he was definitely on The View for EA, and I thought he was on some other TV program to promote the Fireman, too. I'll have to do some searching to check. And the Howard Stern thing should have prompted some sales.
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Coming off the back of Chaos & MAF and the reviews both these albums got, If EA had come out as a Paul McCartney album and given the same promotion it would have sold quite well. another boo boo from Paul's promotional team.
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Michelley:
walliebaby:
I didn't realize Paul was on Ellen for EA...I know he was on promoting C&C, and I thought that was the last time he was on. Now I have something new to look for on youtube.
He was on Howard Stern promoting EA (Howard's favorite song from the album: "Highway"), but I didn't know he'd also done Ellen. Compared to the usual promotion/magazine covers/endless interviews, etc., EA was left a bit in the dust by what KOTB and MAF received. He's been on the cover of several large music magazines for KOTB, and was buried in the middle of several, but getting good reviews, for EA... Again, thanks for the Ellen tip--I've never come across anything for his appearance on there for EA. Do you have any links or know what songs he played?
Oops. I might have been confused about his Ellen performance.
ops:
ops: I think you're right; that was for Chaos. But he was definitely on The View for EA, and I thought he was on some other TV program to promote the Fireman, too. I'll have to do some searching to check. And the Howard Stern thing should have prompted some sales.
Hey, no worries. I get Paul info. wrong ALL the time.
There's too much to keep track of!
I recall him being on the view--he didn't play any songs, but they did a really great interview with him. No new info., but he was very relaxed and on the program for perhaps the whole hour? At least on the Howard Stern show, Howard played some music. And Paul danced.
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walliebaby:
Michelley:
walliebaby:
I didn't realize Paul was on Ellen for EA...I know he was on promoting C&C, and I thought that was the last time he was on. Now I have something new to look for on youtube.
He was on Howard Stern promoting EA (Howard's favorite song from the album: "Highway"), but I didn't know he'd also done Ellen. Compared to the usual promotion/magazine covers/endless interviews, etc., EA was left a bit in the dust by what KOTB and MAF received. He's been on the cover of several large music magazines for KOTB, and was buried in the middle of several, but getting good reviews, for EA... Again, thanks for the Ellen tip--I've never come across anything for his appearance on there for EA. Do you have any links or know what songs he played?
Oops. I might have been confused about his Ellen performance.
ops:
ops: I think you're right; that was for Chaos. But he was definitely on The View for EA, and I thought he was on some other TV program to promote the Fireman, too. I'll have to do some searching to check. And the Howard Stern thing should have prompted some sales.
Hey, no worries. I get Paul info. wrong ALL the time.
There's too much to keep track of!
I recall him being on the view--he didn't play any songs, but they did a really great interview with him. No new info., but he was very relaxed and on the program for perhaps the whole hour? At least on the Howard Stern show, Howard played some music. And Paul danced.
Oh, Paul WAS on the Colbert Report for about three minutes for a funny(ish) interview, but again, no songs were played...
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I've practically lived with McCartney's new album for the last week and I want to take back everything I originally said about the album! It's better than I said!!
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left hand man:
I've practically lived with McCartney's new album for the last week and I want to take back everything I originally said about the album! It's better than I said!!
like Jazz music you've become old hat and boring yaaaaaaaaaawwwwwwwwnnnnnnnn zz
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left hand man:
I've practically lived with McCartney's new album for the last week and I want to take back everything I originally said about the album! It's better than I said!!
Yeah, I love when that happens!
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Macsback, I'm absolutely thrilled to be old hat and boring, as long as McCartney continues to produce albums this good, which he has been doing (except for the Fireman) every since Flowers In The Dirt! Call me whatever, but Kisses is one of Paul McCartney's absolute best albums! It's still #1 on Billboards jazz chart!
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left hand man:
as long as McCartney continues to produce albums this good, which he has been doing (except for the Fireman)
You can't knock The Fireman! The Fireman albums are AWESOME
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Darth_McCartney, if you like the Fireman that's great, it's just not my cup of tea, I don't like that direction from McCartney!
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left hand man:
Darth_McCartney, if you like the Fireman that's great, it's just not my cup of tea, I don't like that direction from McCartney!
Fair enough