The ..2012.... Political thread
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PHILLIP:
There's no way Obama is going to attack muslims, it would be like him attacking his father.
I don't see why he couldn't. Muslims have killed other Muslims for centuries and it's certainly going on now. We have American-born Muslims in the US armed forces who don't have a problem with it. Plus Obama is not Muslim--it's very clear from his speeches, writings, and his actions.
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Kahlessa:
PHILLIP:
There's no way Obama is going to attack muslims, it would be like him attacking his father.
I don't see why he couldn't. Muslims have killed other Muslims for centuries and it's certainly going on now. We have American-born Muslims in the US armed forces who don't have a problem with it. Plus Obama is not Muslim--it's very clear from his speeches, writings, and his actions.
Well of course he could, but he won't. And I wasn't talking about American born Muslims, he wouldn't dare criticize Americans. He just doesn't have the backbone to take on the radical Muslim world, or the Christian right. .
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jaipur:
21st Century Paul:
The_Fool:
Just a general question -- Has a debate ever changed your mind? (about a candidate)
Yes, but only for the worst...
the more I know about politician the less I like them... Spanish elections next Sunday could be depend on the weather, after the last TV debate. High participation, the left party wins. Low participation, the right party wins. So if it rains, there would be low participation and if it's sunny it will be high. I can see now politicians looking at the sky...
BTW, what has happened in Russia? They say Putin still rules, but he's not president.
Putin is supposedly prime minister. The new president (Medevev) was hand picked by putin who couldn't run again because of term limits. Only time will tell if the new president is a mere puppet of Putin.
So it's not only Hillary who's having trouble with the name!
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Obviously a very difficult name.
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Svenn:
Obviously a very difficult name.
The best part about it is how this stupid thing says "whatever"! And people thought Bushism was sad! He at least tried to talk about politics but she can't get a name right! But who cares! John McCain thinks Putin is the president of Germany! I love the american people and I feel so sorry for them!
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anna_medlicka:
Svenn:
Obviously a very difficult name.
The best part about it is how this stupid thing says "whatever"! And people thought Bushism was sad! He at least tried to talk about politics but she can't get a name right! But who cares! John McCain thinks Putin is the president of Germany! I love the american people and I feel so sorry for them!
Keep it up and we'll put in McCain just to annoy Europeans for another four years.
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PHILLIP:
Kahlessa:
PHILLIP:
There's no way Obama is going to attack muslims, it would be like him attacking his father.
I don't see why he couldn't. Muslims have killed other Muslims for centuries and it's certainly going on now. We have American-born Muslims in the US armed forces who don't have a problem with it. Plus Obama is not Muslim--it's very clear from his speeches, writings, and his actions.
Well of course he could, but he won't. And I wasn't talking about American born Muslims, he wouldn't dare criticize Americans. He just doesn't have the backbone to take on the radical Muslim world, or the Christian right. .
An African American in the US, with a name as unusual as Barack Obama, who is a serious contender for the Pres. of the US has more then enough backbone to tackle any issues necessary.
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al Sabah:
21st Century Paul:
Do you still wonder why most of the world hates the US?
I don't believe most of the world does.
al Sabah - we might not always agree, but I knew I missed you here on the board. Thank you for your kind thoughts about America
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How xxxxxxx stupid is anyone to put a negative spin on anyone by virtue of their name? Do we equate John Mccain with John Gacy? "They're still xxxxxxx peasants as far as I can see " ~ John Ono Lennon We should have left Iraq when we captured Saddam and focused our energy on Bin Laden.......not people named Saddam or Bin Laden
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mustangsally10:
PHILLIP:
Kahlessa:
PHILLIP:
There's no way Obama is going to attack muslims, it would be like him attacking his father.
I don't see why he couldn't. Muslims have killed other Muslims for centuries and it's certainly going on now. We have American-born Muslims in the US armed forces who don't have a problem with it. Plus Obama is not Muslim--it's very clear from his speeches, writings, and his actions.
Well of course he could, but he won't. And I wasn't talking about American born Muslims, he wouldn't dare criticize Americans. He just doesn't have the backbone to take on the radical Muslim world, or the Christian right. .
An African American in the US, with a name as unusual as Barack Obama, who is a serious contender for the Pres. of the US has more then enough backbone to tackle any issues necessary.
Well said, Mustang Sally! I live in Illinois and I voted for Obama for Senator in 2004.
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None of the candidates can top our current fearless leader...
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mustangsally10:
PHILLIP:
Kahlessa:
PHILLIP:
There's no way Obama is going to attack muslims, it would be like him attacking his father.
I don't see why he couldn't. Muslims have killed other Muslims for centuries and it's certainly going on now. We have American-born Muslims in the US armed forces who don't have a problem with it. Plus Obama is not Muslim--it's very clear from his speeches, writings, and his actions.
Well of course he could, but he won't. And I wasn't talking about American born Muslims, he wouldn't dare criticize Americans. He just doesn't have the backbone to take on the radical Muslim world, or the Christian right. .
An African American in the US, with a name as unusual as Barack Obama, who is a serious contender for the Pres. of the US has more then enough backbone to tackle any issues necessary.
He can take a punch no doubt. Problem is he hasn't thrown one yet. Had two oppotunities to wrap it up and he didn't.
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In the end we will miss Bush, cause no-one is gonna be as funny as him.
Anyone but Bush... anyway. And still Obama seems a good singer with no good songs to sing.
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rich n:
sampling some of that Scottish Johnny Walker Black
: the program host too, but just a little more often
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johnnie walker blue for me.
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jaipur:
anna_medlicka:
Svenn:
Obviously a very difficult name.
The best part about it is how this stupid thing says "whatever"! And people thought Bushism was sad! He at least tried to talk about politics but she can't get a name right! But who cares! John McCain thinks Putin is the president of Germany! I love the american people and I feel so sorry for them!
Keep it up and we'll put in McCain just to annoy Europeans for another four years.
Well, the tragedy is that it's food for those people who'd say "all americans are stupid" but they've never even met one! There is a lot of very subtle anti-americanism going on in europe which is really disgusting because it's basically accepted! It's as if it's common knowledge that americans are idiots! You can hear it all the time... "you know americans are a little stupid" ... but they're not! Americans are very kind people and they even got the same problems BUT because of people like Bush and McCain and Hillary Clinton who don't know their own language or political basics, many european people think that all americans are idiots because "only idiots elect idiots!" That's mainly where this anti-americanism in europe is coming from! Do you understand now what I was trying to say?
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anna_medlicka:
jaipur:
anna_medlicka:
Svenn:
Obviously a very difficult name.
The best part about it is how this stupid thing says "whatever"! And people thought Bushism was sad! He at least tried to talk about politics but she can't get a name right! But who cares! John McCain thinks Putin is the president of Germany! I love the american people and I feel so sorry for them!
Keep it up and we'll put in McCain just to annoy Europeans for another four years.
Well, the tragedy is that it's food for those people who'd say "all americans are stupid" but they've never even met one! There is a lot of very subtle anti-americanism going on in europe which is really disgusting because it's basically accepted! It's as if it's common knowledge that americans are idiots! You can hear it all the time... "you know americans are a little stupid" ... but they're not! Americans are very kind people and they even got the same problems BUT because of people like Bush and McCain and Hillary Clinton who don't know their own language or political basics, many european people think that all americans are idiots because "only idiots elect idiots!" That's mainly where this anti-americanism in europe is coming from! Do you understand now what I was trying to say?
A person came over to America - directly from Russia - to work at the same place that I work. He could only say a few words in "English." As he was going to school in the US - learning the language - he would ask me for help and understanding. He improved greatly with time and practice. He would tell me what the Russian people thought of Americans and I told him what the Americans thought of Russian people. It was an eye opener, interesting and fun. I learned a lot during some of our casual talking - even some jokes from the Russian point of view. It is sad that people will think everyone in the country is the same and thinks and feels the same. I hear these stories of how people of the US cannot find things on the map and are way out of wack with any knowledge of our own country and of course the world. I have met many who are waking encyclopedias about the world -- those people are not shown in the stories that make the news. I work for a company that has people directly from other countries - first generation -- and greatly appreciate talking to them about their country and their views and experiences. One cannot lump them all together - but if I looked at how the US elections are run and all leading up to it -- as an outside person -- I would not understand the people and what they want in a candidate at all. (I have a tough time understanding it as someone who does know something about each one of the candidates). It is sad that the US is not viewed better by the world - and that the world does not see that there is the same human compassion, worry etc.... I think I have a good idea what you are trying to say.
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anna_medlicka:
jaipur:
anna_medlicka:
Svenn:
Obviously a very difficult name.
The best part about it is how this stupid thing says "whatever"! And people thought Bushism was sad! He at least tried to talk about politics but she can't get a name right! But who cares! John McCain thinks Putin is the president of Germany! I love the american people and I feel so sorry for them!
Keep it up and we'll put in McCain just to annoy Europeans for another four years.
Well, the tragedy is that it's food for those people who'd say "all americans are stupid" but they've never even met one! There is a lot of very subtle anti-americanism going on in europe which is really disgusting because it's basically accepted! It's as if it's common knowledge that americans are idiots! You can hear it all the time... "you know americans are a little stupid" ... but they're not! Americans are very kind people and they even got the same problems BUT because of people like Bush and McCain and Hillary Clinton who don't know their own language or political basics, many european people think that all americans are idiots because "only idiots elect idiots!" That's mainly where this anti-americanism in europe is coming from! Do you understand now what I was trying to say?
Yes I do anna.
Unfortunately my teasing/sense of humor in my post perhaps didn't come across as I intended
. I do think that the political basics here aren't the same over there. And my own personal belief is, that is what is generating the anti-americanism over there. I do find it interesting that there are world correspondents following the campaign here, more so than in 2004.
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The_Fool:
anna_medlicka:
jaipur:
anna_medlicka:
Svenn:
Obviously a very difficult name.
The best part about it is how this stupid thing says "whatever"! And people thought Bushism was sad! He at least tried to talk about politics but she can't get a name right! But who cares! John McCain thinks Putin is the president of Germany! I love the american people and I feel so sorry for them!
Keep it up and we'll put in McCain just to annoy Europeans for another four years.
Well, the tragedy is that it's food for those people who'd say "all americans are stupid" but they've never even met one! There is a lot of very subtle anti-americanism going on in europe which is really disgusting because it's basically accepted! It's as if it's common knowledge that americans are idiots! You can hear it all the time... "you know americans are a little stupid" ... but they're not! Americans are very kind people and they even got the same problems BUT because of people like Bush and McCain and Hillary Clinton who don't know their own language or political basics, many european people think that all americans are idiots because "only idiots elect idiots!" That's mainly where this anti-americanism in europe is coming from! Do you understand now what I was trying to say?
A person came over to America - directly from Russia - to work at the same place that I work. He could only say a few words in "English." As he was going to school in the US - learning the language - he would ask me for help and understanding. He improved greatly with time and practice. He would tell me what the Russian people thought of Americans and I told him what the Americans thought of Russian people. It was an eye opener, interesting and fun. I learned a lot during some of our casual talking - even some jokes from the Russian point of view. It is sad that people will think everyone in the country is the same and thinks and feels the same. I hear these stories of how people of the US cannot find things on the map and are way out of wack with any knowledge of our own country and of course the world. I have met many who are waking encyclopedias about the world -- those people are not shown in the stories that make the news. I work for a company that has people directly from other countries - first generation -- and greatly appreciate talking to them about their country and their views and experiences. One cannot lump them all together - but if I looked at how the US elections are run and all leading up to it -- as an outside person -- I would not understand the people and what they want in a candidate at all. (I have a tough time understanding it as someone who does know something about each one of the candidates). It is sad that the US is not viewed better by the world - and that the world does not see that there is the same human compassion, worry etc.... I think I have a good idea what you are trying to say.
Exactly, fool
The US elections are quite different from those in europe and russia. To me, that's the problem in understanding.