The ..2012.... Political thread
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"I've had all the hope and change that I could ever stand" ~ Mike Estes http://www.reverbnation.com/skinnymolly Mr. President
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Well, well..well Gingrich's supporters accusing Mittens of Medicare fraud in a major way brings up serious questions
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mustangsally10:
Well, well..well Gingrich's supporters accusing Mittens of Medicare fraud in a major way brings up serious questions
Big time circular firing squad'Blood Money'...LOL kind of funny since major players who are the backbone of your oh so favorite 'Obamacare' are aptly dubbed the 'Death Panel'...Maybe one day when someone you know or love has to become completely yellow with Jaundice with their liver being one giant cancerous tumor before their primary care says 'oh, maybe we should have your liver checked out by a specialist', you'll start to get it (I pray you don't have to learn the hard way like that)
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rich n:
mustangsally10:
Well, well..well Gingrich's supporters accusing Mittens of Medicare fraud in a major way brings up serious questions
Big time circular firing squad'Blood Money'...LOL kind of funny since major players who are the backbone of your oh so favorite 'Obamacare' are aptly dubbed the 'Death Panel'...Maybe one day when someone you know or love has to become completely yellow with Jaundice with their liver being one giant cancerous tumor before their primary care says 'oh, maybe we should have your liver checked out by a specialist', you'll start to get it (I pray you don't have to learn the hard way like that)
Huh? And what you said means what? And what does it have to do with what I posted? : : : : :
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mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
Well, well..well Gingrich's supporters accusing Mittens of Medicare fraud in a major way brings up serious questions
Big time circular firing squad'Blood Money'...LOL kind of funny since major players who are the backbone of your oh so favorite 'Obamacare' are aptly dubbed the 'Death Panel'...Maybe one day when someone you know or love has to become completely yellow with Jaundice with their liver being one giant cancerous tumor before their primary care says 'oh, maybe we should have your liver checked out by a specialist', you'll start to get it (I pray you don't have to learn the hard way like that)
Huh? And what you said means what? And what does it have to do with what I posted? : : : : :
You posted 'blah blah blah' while connecting Romney with the title 'blood money', when you have no room to talk since you defend Obama care and the fact that the risk of people dying from not being able to seek treatments from specialists increases greatly and is a result of a program you support...What you posted makes zero since and the only comments that can be made in rebuttal is to remind you that you support a plan that puts people at greater risk of not being able to obtain proper care from specialists...you're just happy that homeless people can now go have their vital signs take and receive a flu shot... What's your so called 'rebuttal' to that?
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rich n:
mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
Well, well..well Gingrich's supporters accusing Mittens of Medicare fraud in a major way brings up serious questions
Big time circular firing squad'Blood Money'...LOL kind of funny since major players who are the backbone of your oh so favorite 'Obamacare' are aptly dubbed the 'Death Panel'...Maybe one day when someone you know or love has to become completely yellow with Jaundice with their liver being one giant cancerous tumor before their primary care says 'oh, maybe we should have your liver checked out by a specialist', you'll start to get it (I pray you don't have to learn the hard way like that)
Huh? And what you said means what? And what does it have to do with what I posted? : : : : :
You posted 'blah blah blah' while connecting Romney with the title 'blood money', when you have no room to talk since you defend Obama care and the fact that the risk of people dying from not being able to seek treatments from specialists increases greatly and is a result of a program you support...What you posted makes zero since and the only comments that can be made in rebuttal is to remind you that you support a plan that puts people at greater risk of not being able to obtain proper care from specialists...you're just happy that homeless people can now go have their vital signs take and receive a flu shot... What's your so called 'rebuttal' to that?
Again you don't know what you're talking about The new health care law (Obamacare) is focused on preventive care so much so that it offers preventive tests available without any co pays. It encourages early treatment so save lives and money. If tests show they need further treatment they're covered to receive it. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/health/policy/20consumer.html Mittens company was abusing the system and was FOUND QUILTY of doing so... Looks like that's the best the republicans can do for a candidate...pretty disgusting
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mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
Well, well..well Gingrich's supporters accusing Mittens of Medicare fraud in a major way brings up serious questions
Big time circular firing squad'Blood Money'...LOL kind of funny since major players who are the backbone of your oh so favorite 'Obamacare' are aptly dubbed the 'Death Panel'...Maybe one day when someone you know or love has to become completely yellow with Jaundice with their liver being one giant cancerous tumor before their primary care says 'oh, maybe we should have your liver checked out by a specialist', you'll start to get it (I pray you don't have to learn the hard way like that)
Huh? And what you said means what? And what does it have to do with what I posted? : : : : :
You posted 'blah blah blah' while connecting Romney with the title 'blood money', when you have no room to talk since you defend Obama care and the fact that the risk of people dying from not being able to seek treatments from specialists increases greatly and is a result of a program you support...What you posted makes zero since and the only comments that can be made in rebuttal is to remind you that you support a plan that puts people at greater risk of not being able to obtain proper care from specialists...you're just happy that homeless people can now go have their vital signs take and receive a flu shot... What's your so called 'rebuttal' to that?
Again you don't know what you're talking about The new health care law (Obamacare) is focused on preventive care so much so that it offers preventive tests available without any co pays. It encourages early treatment so save lives and money. If tests show they need further treatment they're covered to receive it. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/health/policy/20consumer.html Mittens company was abusing the system and was FOUND QUILTY of doing so... Looks like that's the best the republicans can do for a candidate...pretty disgusting
It dictates what doctors can prescribe or referrals they can hand out...And its' done in a tight fisted manner despite the fact that insurance premiums has easily doubled for most people during the three years this 'Obamination' has been in office...Things like MRIs, CAT scans, endoscopy/colonoscopies, etc will be conducted under much greater scrutiny...and you show me where co pays are no longer required. I pay a co pay for everything, including lab work...Lab work used to be obsorbed within the cost of the office visit. I recently had to have a TB test (for school purposes) - I had to pay a co pay for the initial visit plus the reading two days later. Either share your secrets or tell me what you've been smoking Maybe your idea of 'preventive care' means taking a temp and handing out a tylenol...LOL
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rich n:
mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
Well, well..well Gingrich's supporters accusing Mittens of Medicare fraud in a major way brings up serious questions
Big time circular firing squad'Blood Money'...LOL kind of funny since major players who are the backbone of your oh so favorite 'Obamacare' are aptly dubbed the 'Death Panel'...Maybe one day when someone you know or love has to become completely yellow with Jaundice with their liver being one giant cancerous tumor before their primary care says 'oh, maybe we should have your liver checked out by a specialist', you'll start to get it (I pray you don't have to learn the hard way like that)
Huh? And what you said means what? And what does it have to do with what I posted? : : : : :
You posted 'blah blah blah' while connecting Romney with the title 'blood money', when you have no room to talk since you defend Obama care and the fact that the risk of people dying from not being able to seek treatments from specialists increases greatly and is a result of a program you support...What you posted makes zero since and the only comments that can be made in rebuttal is to remind you that you support a plan that puts people at greater risk of not being able to obtain proper care from specialists...you're just happy that homeless people can now go have their vital signs take and receive a flu shot... What's your so called 'rebuttal' to that?
Again you don't know what you're talking about The new health care law (Obamacare) is focused on preventive care so much so that it offers preventive tests available without any co pays. It encourages early treatment so save lives and money. If tests show they need further treatment they're covered to receive it. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/health/policy/20consumer.html Mittens company was abusing the system and was FOUND QUILTY of doing so... Looks like that's the best the republicans can do for a candidate...pretty disgusting
It dictates what doctors can prescribe or referrals they can hand out...And its' done in a tight fisted manner despite the fact that insurance premiums has easily doubled for most people during the three years this 'Obamination' has been in office...Things like MRIs, CAT scans, endoscopy/colonoscopies, etc will be conducted under much greater scrutiny...and you show me where co pays are no longer required. I pay a co pay for everything, including lab work...Lab work used to be obsorbed within the cost of the office visit. I recently had to have a TB test (for school purposes) - I had to pay a co pay for the initial visit plus the reading two days later. Either share your secrets or tell me what you've been smoking Maybe your idea of 'preventive care' means taking a temp and handing out a tylenol...LOL
Diagnostic tests should be under scrutiny...to prevent abuse and crooks like Mittens getting their hands on Medicare money. My annual physical no longer has a co pay as do many of my other tests. Should save many lives. Fun seeing you all defend criminal activity which hurts tax payers This election will be a riot
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mustangsally10:
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mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
Well, well..well Gingrich's supporters accusing Mittens of Medicare fraud in a major way brings up serious questions
Big time circular firing squad'Blood Money'...LOL kind of funny since major players who are the backbone of your oh so favorite 'Obamacare' are aptly dubbed the 'Death Panel'...Maybe one day when someone you know or love has to become completely yellow with Jaundice with their liver being one giant cancerous tumor before their primary care says 'oh, maybe we should have your liver checked out by a specialist', you'll start to get it (I pray you don't have to learn the hard way like that)
Huh? And what you said means what? And what does it have to do with what I posted? : : : : :
You posted 'blah blah blah' while connecting Romney with the title 'blood money', when you have no room to talk since you defend Obama care and the fact that the risk of people dying from not being able to seek treatments from specialists increases greatly and is a result of a program you support...What you posted makes zero since and the only comments that can be made in rebuttal is to remind you that you support a plan that puts people at greater risk of not being able to obtain proper care from specialists...you're just happy that homeless people can now go have their vital signs take and receive a flu shot... What's your so called 'rebuttal' to that?
Again you don't know what you're talking about The new health care law (Obamacare) is focused on preventive care so much so that it offers preventive tests available without any co pays. It encourages early treatment so save lives and money. If tests show they need further treatment they're covered to receive it. http://www.nytimes.com/2011/09/20/health/policy/20consumer.html Mittens company was abusing the system and was FOUND QUILTY of doing so... Looks like that's the best the republicans can do for a candidate...pretty disgusting
It dictates what doctors can prescribe or referrals they can hand out...And its' done in a tight fisted manner despite the fact that insurance premiums has easily doubled for most people during the three years this 'Obamination' has been in office...Things like MRIs, CAT scans, endoscopy/colonoscopies, etc will be conducted under much greater scrutiny...and you show me where co pays are no longer required. I pay a co pay for everything, including lab work...Lab work used to be obsorbed within the cost of the office visit. I recently had to have a TB test (for school purposes) - I had to pay a co pay for the initial visit plus the reading two days later. Either share your secrets or tell me what you've been smoking Maybe your idea of 'preventive care' means taking a temp and handing out a tylenol...LOL
Diagnostic tests should be under scrutiny...to prevent abuse and crooks like Mittens getting their hands on Medicare money. My annual physical no longer has a co pay as do many of my other tests. Should save many lives. Fun seeing you all defend criminal activity which hurts tax payers This election will be a riot
Baloney - severe consistent headaches, colichy abdominal pain, episodes of chest pain or shortness of breath and other serious signs and symptoms should leave the decisions towards further diagnostic tested unimpeded (other than ensuring the more emergent/immediate actions that may be required at the time of admittance are indeed performed)
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I agree serious complaints should have further diagnosis and they will be under the new health care law. But that's not what Mittens company was doing and they confessed to being guilty of committing Medicare fraud but anyway that won't matter to you guys...you got nothing better
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Mitt's company had to pay a $32 million fine for that Medicare fraud case. And mustangsally10 is absolutely right: They admitted guilt. Amazing how "conservatives" tolerate greed and vote against their own interests.
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Food for thought - I found this posted on another site: An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had recently failed an entire class. That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer. The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan". All grades will be averaged and everyone will receive the same grade so no one will fail and no one will receive an A.... (substituting grades for dollars - something that hits closer to home and more readily understood by all). After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little.. The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. As the tests proceeded, the scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of anyone else. To their great surprise, ALL FAILED and the professor told them that socialism would also ultimately fail because when the reward is great, the effort to succeed is great, but when government takes all the reward away, no one will try or want to succeed. It could not be any simpler than that. Remember, there IS a test coming up. The 2012 elections. These are possibly the 5 best sentences you'll ever read and all applicable to this experiment: 1. You cannot legislate the poor into prosperity by legislating the wealthy out of prosperity. 2. What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving. 3. The government cannot give to anybody anything that the government does not first take from somebody else. 4. You cannot multiply wealth by dividing it! 5. When half of the people get the idea that they do not have to work because the other half is going to take care of them, and when the other half gets the idea that it does no good to work because somebody else is going to get what they work for, that is the beginning of the end of any nation.
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Why are you so concerned about the wealthy, rich? They seem to be doing alright for themselves! And why aren't you concerned for the poor? Have you been in a housing project, they're very plain and institutional-looking with the barest basic amenities, but they're a roof over heads which would otherwise be homeless. Do you begrudge the poor even that housing? I doubt "the wealthy" are hurting very much in their pocketbooks due to that. Some housing for low-income people looks a bit better and I'm always glad to see more attractive decent examples like that. Wealthy conservatives like to think nobody in America "is really poor" and everybody has a cell phone, computer, a car, somewhere to live and all that, and enough to eat, but the reality isn't like that. They ought to come take a look at my county, the poorest in the state. Willard Mittens doubtless would think "you're not my kind of people." Like he said "you're not my kind of Mormon" to the low income Mormon woman who had come to him seeking a favor, that she be allowed into one of the fancy temples for something.
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One political columnist wrote that if all 938 billion dollars was taken away from all the one percent richest Americans that still wouldn't help the deficit and/or the poor and middle class very much, but that sounds like a hell of a lot of dollars to me. Not that I think it should all every bit be taken from them but they should pay more taxes. I don't know how she came up with the $938 billion figure.
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Alrighty than, In a GOP arm wrestling match who would win? Schhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmditt Ramney OR Newd Greencrotch? Place your bets now. Winners will be announced next week, so be sure to check your local networks for current standings on the Hymn channel.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Why are you so concerned about the wealthy, rich? .
So that's what you took from that post??? LOL
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Well...why ARE you? Instead of for the suffering masses.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Well...why ARE you? Instead of for the suffering masses.
Its not about interest in the wealthy...its about liberals eagerness to streak from those who earned what they have and give it to a freeloader. The ratio of those living inpoverty due to lack of ambition far outways those who are truly unfortunately.
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The notion that President Obama is a Socialist -- like that questionable collegiate anecdote, itself -- is utter b.s.
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Wonder how you know for sure the exact precise ratio of ambitionless "freeloaders" to the "truly unfortunate," rich? You seem to know down to the last person, somehow, but how can you? How can you know how many on welfare are just "lazy" or such and how many have gotten down on their luck due to external factors and events. It's a good thing you don't live in the U.K. where so many people are on "the dole," I suppose that would just about drive you nuts and enrage you no end.