The ..2012.... Political thread
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JennyLP:
Andy_Shofar:
JennyLP:
Andy_Shofar:
JennyLP:
Andy_Shofar:
Yes, tomorrow is super Tuesday - Expect an upset and the unexpected in New Jersey
...in which way? It's going the way I want it
Just trying to play it up & say something positve about NJ - no predictions by me - no, none at all!!! But it does seem as if our fellow Garden Staters have leaned toward John McCain
.....and Clinton
Not that I really cared for either but I'll take Clinton over Obama any day.
Now at that point - I'm not sure For me, I've had enough of the Clintons New York can keep them!!!
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Missouri, a bell weather state, still can't be called for either democrat or republican. And the huck fans will be happy he just got Georgia
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McCain and Clinton are the projected winners of California.
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anna_medlicka:
I don't mind his age (though I don't agree that Reagan was a great president)! Some people say Obama is too young and because of that he's too inexperienced! It's STUPIDITY that worries me because I don't want another four years (or even eight years) with statements like: "More and more of our imports come from overseas." Duh!
Be fair. Some of them come from Mexico.
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JennyLP:
Not that I really cared for either but I'll take Clinton over Obama any day.
Same here. Not a bad night, overall. Turned out the way I wanted it, with Clinton overtaking Obama in most states and McCain likely sealing up the Republican nomination. Go Johnny, go!...
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What is missing? I am not excited or pumped up with enthusiasm for any of these candidates I will vote -- most likely so the other doesn't get in there. My question of the day: How can McCain call himself a republican? He seems to be a democrat with a republican mask. They call that a RINO don't they? (Republican in name only).
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Then you have to ask yourself why so many Republicans are voting for him. Could it be that grass-roots Republicans are sick of their party being hijacked by a discredited ideology and are looking for an old-fashioned conservative who represents their real concerns for a change?
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maccascruff:
He's too old to be president anyway and if he thinks that, Anna, it's all the more reason why he SHOULD not be president of the US.
I do favour Obama.
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I do not endorse or approve of this article - I only offer it to see what some are saying ... ONCE JOHN WINS, HE'LL MAKE A LEFT By CHARLES HURT February 6, 2008 -- RUNNING as a conservative, John McCain rolled up huge victories last night in New York, New Jersey and beyond. But if history is any guide, the McCain we've seen of late on the campaign trail is the most conservative McCain we'll ever see. He has taken a commanding lead in the GOP primary by packaging himself as the "true conservative" committed to limited government, to slashed federal spending and to an avowedly conservative Supreme Court. He claims the mantle of Ronald Reagan. He even claims the mantle of Barry Goldwater, conservatism's crack version of Reagan. But as McCain clinches the GOP nomination, he will begin his usual leftward lurch. He will return to his lifelong positions as soft on illegal immigration, skeptical of tax cuts and favoring strong federal control over things like campaign financing. McCain's appeal to independents and even the left is what makes him such a powerhouse in the general election. It is also precisely what has so many in the Republican base so wildly fearful of handing him the keys to the kingdom. If the Republican Party expands "because we have a candidate who's going out trying to attract liberals by being like them, then the party's going to be around but you won't recognize it," thundered radio king Rush Limbaugh. The Republican Party will "be over as it exists now," he warns. To understand just how McCain has managed to limp to the front of the GOP field, look no further than the outcome of yesterday's West Virginia Republican Convention. At the outset, victory was in the air for Mitt Romney, the flip-flopping former Massachusetts governor. He is universally loathed by all the other GOP candidates, who banded together to give all their votes to Mike Huckabee - simply to deny Romney a win. The depressing GOP field that has paved a path to victory for McCain also gave surprising wins last night to Huckabee in Georgia, Alabama and Tennessee, as well as in his home state of Arkansas. Still, McCain has so radicalized key conservatives that some have vowed to turn themselves into suicide voters next November by pulling the lever for Hillary Rodham Clinton over him. This last-minute blitz against McCain by Limbaugh and others, however, comes far too late. But if those conservatives sit out the general election, they will help Democrats make history by electing either the first black president or the first female president next November. churt@nypost.com http://www.nypost.com/seven/02062008/news/columnists/once_john_wins__hell_make_a_left_852521.htm
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The_Fool:
What is missing? I am not excited or pumped up with enthusiasm for any of these candidates I will vote -- most likely so the other doesn't get in there. My question of the day: How can McCain call himself a republican? He seems to be a democrat with a republican mask. They call that a RINO don't they? (Republican in name only).
Yes they do. the base of the party is not with mccain..never has been
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Bill:
Then you have to ask yourself why so many Republicans are voting for him. Could it be that grass-roots Republicans are sick of their party being hijacked by a discredited ideology and are looking for an old-fashioned conservative who represents their real concerns for a change?
That's just it.....the base of republicans aren't voting for him. Independents are voting for him or Obama.
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Matthew_Montoya:
JennyLP:
Not that I really cared for either but I'll take Clinton over Obama any day.
Same here. Not a bad night, overall. Turned out the way I wanted it, with Clinton overtaking Obama in most states and McCain likely sealing up the Republican nomination. Go Johnny, go!...
uh, obama won more states than she did. McCain doesn't have the south....Huckabee does He needs alot more for the nomination.
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jaipur:
Matthew_Montoya:
JennyLP:
Not that I really cared for either but I'll take Clinton over Obama any day.
Same here. Not a bad night, overall. Turned out the way I wanted it, with Clinton overtaking Obama in most states and McCain likely sealing up the Republican nomination. Go Johnny, go!...
uh, obama won more states than she did. McCain doesn't have the south....Huckabee does He needs alot more for the nomination.
Ahhh but Huckabee and McCain are in a tag team match and one or the other can toss their votes toward the other
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The_Fool:
jaipur:
Matthew_Montoya:
JennyLP:
Not that I really cared for either but I'll take Clinton over Obama any day.
Same here. Not a bad night, overall. Turned out the way I wanted it, with Clinton overtaking Obama in most states and McCain likely sealing up the Republican nomination. Go Johnny, go!...
uh, obama won more states than she did. McCain doesn't have the south....Huckabee does He needs alot more for the nomination.
Ahhh but Huckabee and McCain are in a tag team match and one or the other can toss their votes toward the other
And some have refered to Huckabee as "HuckAPhony" - a fake conservative.
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??? breaking news ??? Questions about Chelsea at polling place Posted Feb. 5, 2008 Updated 7:25 PM (WTNH) _ This might cause a headache for Sen. Hillary Clinton's campaign in Connecticut. It's Chelsea Clinton inside a New Haven polling place at 6:00 a.m. ops: So why might this be an issue? According to state law, candidates or a candidate's representative, such as someone wearing a sign, have to stay 75-feet away from polling places "on the day of any primary". The daughter of the Democratic presidential candidate was delivering a box of coffee to poll workers and talking with a firefighter in New Haven. According to a News Channel 8 photographer who was there, when the moderator announced that the polls are open, Clinton immediately went outside. "I did not consider it an issue because she didn't come here, as far as I'm concerned, to influence anything here or disrupt us," said New Haven election moderator Nilda Torres. The Clinton incident prompted an e-mail from the Secretary of the State's office to the New Haven Registrar of Voters, reminding them of the 75-foot law. A statement from Clinton campaign spokesman Philippe Reines said, "A live TV interview being conducted by WTNH at the site delayed her departure until just after 6, at which point she immediately left the station." The WTNH news crew says there was ample room for Clinton to leave the voting area during their live report. In a live interview on News Channel 8 at 5:00, Secretary of the State Susan Bysiewicz said, "I did speak with the Clinton campaign this afternoon and they apologized and said it wouldn't happen again." No one has filed a formal complaint with the state Elections Enforcement Commission about Chelsea Clinton's early morning visit. The Elections Enforcement Division says it's never had to interpret whether "on the day of any primary" means when the polls open at 6:00 a.m., or when the day starts at 12:01 a.m. "Any citizen can file a complaint with Election's Enforcement, and they are in charge of enforcing the election laws in our state," Secretary Bysiewicz said. "It's our job to advise people what the law is and we did do that early this morning." http://www.wtnh.com/Global/story.asp?S=7827524
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The_Fool:
jaipur:
Matthew_Montoya:
JennyLP:
Not that I really cared for either but I'll take Clinton over Obama any day.
Same here. Not a bad night, overall. Turned out the way I wanted it, with Clinton overtaking Obama in most states and McCain likely sealing up the Republican nomination. Go Johnny, go!...
uh, obama won more states than she did. McCain doesn't have the south....Huckabee does He needs alot more for the nomination.
Ahhh but Huckabee and McCain are in a tag team match and one or the other can toss their votes toward the other
uh, I don't think so....wish it were that easy
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Bill:
Then you have to ask yourself why so many Republicans are voting for him. Could it be that grass-roots Republicans are sick of their party being hijacked by a discredited ideology and are looking for an old-fashioned conservative who represents their real concerns for a change?
I have to agree with that......I don't believe McCain is a Democrat.....just a good, old-fashioned conservative. I like him.
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jaipur:
Bill:
Then you have to ask yourself why so many Republicans are voting for him. Could it be that grass-roots Republicans are sick of their party being hijacked by a discredited ideology and are looking for an old-fashioned conservative who represents their real concerns for a change?
That's just it.....the base of republicans aren't voting for him. Independents are voting for him or Obama.
Jaipur, you are correct. Most Republicans have voted for someone other than McCain, but with multiple candidates, the more-conservative vote has been split. McCain is not an old-fashioned conservative, but he is old.
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keithmestl:
jaipur:
Bill:
Then you have to ask yourself why so many Republicans are voting for him. Could it be that grass-roots Republicans are sick of their party being hijacked by a discredited ideology and are looking for an old-fashioned conservative who represents their real concerns for a change?
That's just it.....the base of republicans aren't voting for him. Independents are voting for him or Obama.
Jaipur, you are correct. Most Republicans have voted for someone other than McCain, but with multiple candidates, the more-conservative vote has been split. McCain is not an old-fashioned conservative, but he is old.
Actually, he is......and saying McCain is tool old to be president is like saying Paul is too old to Rock n' Roll
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keithmestl:
jaipur:
Bill:
Then you have to ask yourself why so many Republicans are voting for him. Could it be that grass-roots Republicans are sick of their party being hijacked by a discredited ideology and are looking for an old-fashioned conservative who represents their real concerns for a change?
That's just it.....the base of republicans aren't voting for him. Independents are voting for him or Obama.
Jaipur, you are correct. Most Republicans have voted for someone other than McCain, but with multiple candidates, the more-conservative vote has been split. McCain is not an old-fashioned conservative, but he is old.
And that's a problem for him. Can't get elected without a semblance of a base. I laugh when I hear McCain talk about "cutting pork barrel spending". That's old-fashioned conservative. Couldn't do it in Congress and he won't be able to do it as president either. Well, Romney just bailed. I'd like to know what will happen to his delegates.