The ..2012.... Political thread
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rich n:
I've come to expect that part of the liberal's agenda is to use insults and degrading messages instead of actually debating a point...and perhaps your right with your own jaded message that I've too become a bit jaded in the process...but so what? it's the 'stones/glass houses thing...and yeah, you do earn another 'LOL'
Passive-aggressive avoidance, yet again.
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audi:
rich n:
I've come to expect that part of the liberal's agenda is to use insults and degrading messages instead of actually debating a point...and perhaps your right with your own jaded message that I've too become a bit jaded in the process...but so what? it's the 'stones/glass houses thing...and yeah, you do earn another 'LOL'
Passive-aggressive avoidance, yet again.
Passing off one's own shortcoming onto your adversaries, yet again (nothing new - it's why the libs are trying to tag the label 'flip flopper' onto Romney...LOL)
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audi:
service_gamer:
rich n:
service_gamer:
rich n:
audi:
Fail.
Of course - it doesn't fit the agenda
No, it just says that they didn't have knowledge of the incident, but they never said it didn't happen. When you couple that with the fact that Romney took the rather unusual step of simultaneously pleading ignorance to said event while also apologizing for high school pranks, it really undermines your link. Also, you should take a close look at mustangsally's comment. Even if the they had more concrete statements, why would the opinions of siblings who weren't there overrule those of the classmate's who were?
. All the times you've 'lectured' me over not reading the entire article? LOL - Only sister#1 said she does not know what happened...Sister#2 said the story was factually inaccurate...meaning however, Obama's team is trying to use it lacks integrity...and for her to say that means she was either there, or was told a version of the story from someone she finds credible (maybe her own brother before he passed away)....either way, I'll take her word over a report from some flakey liberal news source. And your attempt at trying to read into Romney's words - Talk about trying to find the 200 lb elephant in the room...LOL
I'm tired of holding back, so here comes a long overdue rant. I try and play nice because I think, 'Oh, maybe he's a nice guy, maybe I'm being too hard on him,' but screw that. So one sister said it was inaccurate, but another sister WHO WASN'T EVEN THERE - Oh noes this changes everything!! Except it doesn't - didn't. You again avoid logic, which is: Classmates present at event > sister with recollection, especially when coupled with Romney's weird apology/lack of recollection. Oh, and the Washington Post is a flaky liberal news source? You buy into the myth that the big ol' liberal media is trying to smear Romney here because you're an idiot and Republicans love appealing to the least common denominator - after all, how else are you going to convince the have-nots that it makes more sense for them to foot more of the bill than the wealthy? You know why I "lecture" you? Because I realize you are so blinded by your partisanship that I basically feel the need to think ahead and try and avoid every ignorant rebuttal that a poorly phrased comment might open itself up to (for instance, THIS post). Do you realize how much of a joke you are? That's a serious question. Any time someone brings up something credible you either change the subject or just avoid responding. In our last exchange about Obama's secret-muslim-Kenyan-independent-luring-gay-marriage-agenda, I asked you what? Two, three times to tell me when Bush or Cheney - whom you held up as pillars of brave gay marriage supporters on the right - supported gay marriage with the specter of an impending election? What did you say? Nothing. You go back to pretty much every "debate" we've had, and if I bring something credible to the table or it's a tricky question to answer, rather than admit being wrong or engage in intellectual jousting, you either fling misinformed vitriol or go away and let the topic change. Let's not overlook your predilection towards using your right-wing sources as paragons of truth and virtue (again, THIS story). You make your jokes about the Daily KOS or Media Matters, which I don't care about, because I don't go to them, but you can't see how hypocritical it is to post to similarly biased sources on the right. That either means you're disingenuous, biased and with an agenda or you're an idiot. Even if you'd preface it JUST ONCE with 'I know this is from a conservative source, so take it with a grain of salt...' it would at least be refreshing, but no. Anything that's negative about a conservative or positive about a liberal is automatically 'liberal media trash,' but anything to the antithesis of this is legitimate journalism. And I love how you've taken to use NBC as a verb to imply some sort of liberal agenda (it speaks volumes about your sense of humor, as does your use of ...LOL - are the ellipses supposed to create suspense?). I'm not a fan of MSNBC, because I think they're a bit too liberal, but you do realize that FOX News has a history of purposely distorting the truth to elevate conservatives and put down liberals, right? Whether it's manipulating quotes or "accidentally" putting a (D) instead of an (R) behind Republican politicians under fire for a scandal (remember Mark Sanford?). Oh, but I'm sure it's just another liberal conspiracy. And I'm sure it's just a coincidence that another of Rupert Murdoch's conservative media power-houses was recently found to be wholly and completely devoid of morals and ethically corrupt, right? And here's a free tip, if you want to be taken seriously, just say President Obama or even simply Obama. Don't give me some sort of playground BS about 'They call him mittens or they called him dubya.' Who cares? Act like a grown up and give the office some respect. Can you find an example of me tossing out Bush insults? Nope. I'm not offended or anything, I'm just embarrassed that someone trying to engage in an intellectual debate would refer to their subject as a "lying, manipulative freakshow." Pro tip: If the supposed dirt you have on your target (i.e. falling poll numbers) is good enough, you don't need to include an insult. You only distract from the real story and make yourself look childish. Truthfully, you're just clever enough to actually infuriate us liberals on here, when we probably should just ignore the conservative lemmings that troll. It doesn't bother me when someone is an absolutely moronic, intellectual lightweight when it comes to politics, but it enrages me when they think they are somehow enlightened and actually know what the hell they are talking about. I want to keep going, but I'll cut it short here. I just want you to know where I stand. Clearly we were never going to agree on politics, but any time I've tried to offer a place to call a truce or compromise, you've roundly ignored it, and you're such a rabid, pissy wingnut all the time, so why bother anymore? Oh, and I can't wait for you to claim victory because you've somehow riled me up. Truth is, I'm pissed that my Lakers looked so lifeless and I'm just tired of you and your ilk's idiotic spew. Like Andy "URL shorteners are secret, liberal PC destroyers" Shofar - disconnected, naive conservative shill. Hey Andy, while recapping presidential vacations, you left out something. The second bullet point should read "George W. & wife would go to their Crawford, Texas ranch where the president would clear brush and ignore memos that could spare thousands of American lives, then his party would point to the fact that he never repeated his colossal eff-up and somehow make it seem like he and his party were more attuned to matters of national security." I'm just going to try and view you conservatives on here as you are: Hilariously naive and misinformed. After all, when a toddler spouts off nonsense, do you engage him and explain in detail why he's wrong or just shake your head, smile and tussle his hair?
I feel like I've just been taken to church!
I guess there is some sort of 'church' for hell as well - as frick and frack come out for their morning follies...Good morning
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Funny these attempts to micro-analyze our motives, yet, Romney's blatant self-contradictions and moral contempt seem to elude certain people. It is becoming a pointless endeavor to debate these issues. Obama is not perfect in my book, by the way -- I can easily point out my qualms with him. The other side seems to not possess that characteristic.
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rich n:
Fake 'Gay Marriage' support proves to be a fail: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/05/15/us/politics/poll-sees-obama-gay-marriage-support-motivated-by-politics.html
HOney, this is just one person's opionion. and we all know what opinions are like... how about the republicans fake persecuting the gays? Mittens hires one depsite what the extremist in his party think.
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rich n:
I've come to expect that part of the liberal's agenda is to use insults and degrading messages instead of actually debating a point....
I see you doing this several times here on this thread, case in point, you're choice of the word freakshow to call Obama. and doing so became acceptable due to big drug taking Limbaugh. He started doing it. One thing I do learn about name calling: one side may start it but they hate it when the other side is better at it or meaner. And there's one basic reason why I can't vote republican: They recently showed they hate women again. Period. That was an incredibly stupid move on their part. Period. Why would I vote for this party?
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rich n:
I've come to expect that part of the liberal's agenda is to use insults and degrading messages instead of actually debating a point...and perhaps your right with your own jaded message that I've too become a bit jaded in the process...but so what? it's the 'stones/glass houses thing...and yeah, you do earn another 'LOL'
HOney, we learned it from Limbaugh. You just described his tacticts that made him famous. so for you FAIL.
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rich n:
audi:
rich n:
I've come to expect that part of the liberal's agenda is to use insults and degrading messages instead of actually debating a point...and perhaps your right with your own jaded message that I've too become a bit jaded in the process...but so what? it's the 'stones/glass houses thing...and yeah, you do earn another 'LOL'
Passive-aggressive avoidance, yet again.
Passing off one's own shortcoming onto your adversaries, yet again (nothing new - it's why the libs are trying to tag the label 'flip flopper' onto Romney...LOL)
from someone who is neither side, both sides flip flop. Where the hell have you been? and each side calls the other on it. It'd be amusing if it wasn't so childish with so much at stake. Basically, neither side wants to work to get the job done that needs doing: FIx the economy. But the conservatives if they don't win want to stand on the field, whining and disrupting the game even if the rules benefit us. THey've done that since Clinton. They whine louder when they lose big time.
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Here it is mittens economics. Listen to how a former employee calls him a vampire: http://www.romneyeconomics.com/gst/gst-outro
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I'm still amused at how the most conservative member posting here complains how the liberals name call during discussions, debates and arguments when Rush Limbaugh started it all. the conservative name-calling King.
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Willard is a sociopath, folks -- I'm totally convinced.
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audi:
Willard is a sociopath, folks -- I'm totally convinced.
It does look that way audi, The evidence is that he doesn't have a moral conscience about his actions (see the vid I posted above) and that is one of the definitions of a sociopath. He's also a pathological liar...there is even a website dedicated to his lies http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/ He talks through both sides of his mouth at once...like two people inhabiting the same body He's scarey and has no core He's multiple choice on everything What a disaster
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White House Dollars & Sense ... Obama has up to $1 million with JPMorgan Chase US President Barack Obama has up to $1 million in a JPMorgan Chase checking account, the White House said Tuesday as a controversy deepened over the bank's $2 billion dollar losses. http://ca.news.yahoo.com/obama-1-million-jpmorgan-chase-204632283.html -------------------------------- Obama worth as much as $10 million http://content.usatoday.com/communities/theoval/post/2012/05/obama-worth-as-much-as-10-million/1 Shame he hasn't personally invested in "green" as he had with taxpayers monies ...
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I was already keenly aware that our President was bankin'. Nothin' wrong with it, either. I'm a capitalist, too, ya' know. What else ya' got?
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a 200 million dollar...self proclaiming christian...anglo fruitcake vs... a 10 million dollar christian mulatto heterosexual? gee...who should I vote for?
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Choices, choices. I'll go with the Oft-Mistaken-Muslim-Who's-Actually-A-Christian. Not quite ready for any $200 million polygamists.
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mustangsally10:
audi:
Willard is a sociopath, folks -- I'm totally convinced.
It does look that way audi, The evidence is that he doesn't have a moral conscience about his actions (see the vid I posted above) and that is one of the definitions of a sociopath. He's also a pathological liar...there is even a website dedicated to his lies http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/ He talks through both sides of his mouth at once...like two people inhabiting the same body He's scarey and has no core He's multiple choice on everything What a disaster
^^^^The 'French Taunter' is in the house...LOL
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mustangsally10:
audi:
Willard is a sociopath, folks -- I'm totally convinced.
It does look that way audi, The evidence is that he doesn't have a moral conscience about his actions (see the vid I posted above) and that is one of the definitions of a sociopath. He's also a pathological liar...there is even a website dedicated to his lies http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/ He talks through both sides of his mouth at once...like two people inhabiting the same body He's scarey and has no core He's multiple choice on everything What a disaster
Another mittens blatant lie http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/2012/05/blog-post.html
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mustangsally10:
mustangsally10:
audi:
Willard is a sociopath, folks -- I'm totally convinced.
It does look that way audi, The evidence is that he doesn't have a moral conscience about his actions (see the vid I posted above) and that is one of the definitions of a sociopath. He's also a pathological liar...there is even a website dedicated to his lies http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/ He talks through both sides of his mouth at once...like two people inhabiting the same body He's scarey and has no core He's multiple choice on everything What a disaster
Another mittens blatant lie http://romneytheliar.blogspot.com/2012/05/blog-post.html
And what's sad about it all is that his supporters lack the character to EVER hold The Great Self-Contradictor accountable. All they care about is gettin' that N-word out of The White House.