The Official Football/Soccer Thread: 2017-2018 Season
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unclesox:
Love Sculpture:
ANOTHER CHOCOLATE Why surprise? Brazilian football won 5 times the world cup, it wasnt a surprise for me, it was very predictable. Playing a good or not good football, Brazil is Brazil and it is not a surprise when they win. I dont know why people are repetitive. In 2004 the same thing happened, people believed Argentina would win, heh. Let´s get real, final is final, and Brazil is Brazil, the biggest champion of all World Cups until now. Bi Champion, sorry
What the hell does winning the World Cup in 1958 have to do with 2007?
: You're always quick to mention Brazil's World Cup triumphs as if Didi and Tostao are running around on the pitch today. If it played such a part in Venezuela, why didn't their history help them out in Germany last year? What about Pato and the team in Canada? Boca Juniors proved where the best football in South America is currently being played.
Ah I didnt mention that at all, I said Brazil that Brazil is the only biggest champion of all world cups, Brazil won Copa America in 2004, and how many times Argentina won something, better, the last time Argentina won? Thats why I question those who always believe Argentina will win playing against Brazil. Brazil was favorite because of that, and Brazil won Copa America. Now if you are jealous, it´s not my problem
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: Ah that Boca Junior hahaha... Toyota Cup is not bigger than the World Cup, and it is not harder.
: BTW, Italy won the last World Cup, not Argentina. Brazil is Penta honey!!!
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21st Century Paul:
Love Sculpture:
21st Century Paul:
unclesox:
Who's in front of him now at Real? Van Nistelrooy, Raul, Robinho, Higuain, Soldado has been bought, Baptista has returned... who else?
Reyes, Cassano...
well it depends of how Saviola will play... he could be in the starting, I don't know... By the way, suprisingly for me... Brazil 3 - Argentina 0, final of the America's Cup. Brazil played with kind of the not 11 better players, the ones that wouldn't play in a World Cup.
ANOTHER CHOCOLATE Why surprise? Brazilian football won 5 times the world cup, it wasnt a surprise for me, it was very predictable. Playing a good or not good football, Brazil is Brazil and it is not a surprise when they win. I dont know why people are repetitive. In 2004 the same thing happened, people believed Argentina would win, heh. Let´s get real, final is final, and Brazil is Brazil, the biggest champion of all World Cups until now. Bi Champion, sorry
I mean Brazil was playing with not the... main players, the ones that should be the starting team in the World Cup, you know... Ronaldinho, Kaka, Adriano, Ze Roberto, Dida, etc. but kind of with the second team.
I know Oliver, but the second team is better than the first, when they decide to play.
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unclesox:
Incredible announcement by shaken officials at Brazilian football club Gremio FBPA, recent runners-up in the Copa Libertadores South American club championship, that the team was scheduled to be on the Airbus A320 operated by TAM Linhas Aereas that took off from Porto Alegre and crash landed at Congonhas Airport in São Paulo late-Tuesday night, skidding off the runway and colliding into a building that housed cargo and fuel. All 186 passengers as well as a number of people inside the building are believed to have perished. Gremio coach Mano Menezes made the decision to switch flights to avoid the flight delays that had been prevelant on Brazilian flights since last year's September 29 Gol Linhas Aereas Inteligentes disaster which killed 154 people after crashing in the Amazon, Brazil's worst air crash. The Gremio players and coaching staff were forced to change flights at the last minute and took a plane to Brasilia instead. Gremio were on their way to Goiania for a Thursday match against Goiás in the Paulista State League, a match which may now be postponed.
Thoughts and prayers to the families of those who didn't survive.
Sad what happened.
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Everyone's better when they decide to play.
Spain team is the worst example... every player is much better on their clubs, well.... By the way, Fernando Torres... he is very good, one of the best ones in dribbling, in one against one... fast and skillful... but... nothing more, he's not a scorer, he only scores easy goals, and he doesn't make great passes... so almost all of his goals come from counter attacks and he alone against with the goalkeeper. At least he's young and he could learn to pass, shoot or defend, in the meantimes, he's an incomplete player or so... he's a forward but for clear counter-attacks. For instance, he always scores against Barcelona
, that's usual... because Barca played into the Atletico field and Torres got chances and big spaces to counter-attack but against other kinds of team he's very useless. But not if you play against Barcelona again.
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Love Sculpture:
You had no problem with the Libertadores when Sao Paulo and Internacional won it. But after watching the way Boca Juniors took apart Gremio in the final, I do agree with you that Boca had an easy time winning the trophy this year. If they were able to keep all their players I'd put them as favorites to beat Milan. But they've already lost Riquelme, Díaz and Rodríguez, with Palacio and Marioni likely to follow. The price of success of Argentine clubs, always losing key players to the bigger money of Europe and Mexico. A shame.
But they are the all-time leader in winning international trophies for club team so I probably shouldn't underestimate them.
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21st Century Paul:
For instance, he always scores against Barcelona
, that's usual... because Barca played into the Atletico field and Torres got chances and big spaces to counter-attack but against other kinds of team he's very useless. But not if you play against Barcelona again.
And what was the score the last time Torres faced Barca?
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david mitchelson:
Torres, Voronin, Babel, someone else and a couple of others who's names I've forgotten. If Liverpool don't win the Premiership this season or next there ain't no hope.
Some great signings, but for some reason I feel there's still something missing. Hope they can challenge, though, cuz the past few seasons in the Premiership have been 'boat races'. Nothing like a good old-fashioned fight for the title that goes down to the wire. Last season was okay but everyone felt United had secured the title after somehow winning away to Fulham and Liverpool when they should've lost both matches. But United scare me. They look very strong. And they may be getting Tevez as well.
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Great to see that although the players aren't required to arrive until Saturday, two of the new signings turned up at La Masia to put in some early training... Yaya and Henry.
After everyone arrives on Saturday, the team will travel to Scotland (Saint Andrews) for preseason training. First match to be next Thursday against their old bogey team in Europe, Dundee United. Saturday the 28th they play Hearts and then head off to Far East Asia for a three match tour. Lionel Messi won't be travelling to the Orient with the squad. He's been excused from training until August 7 to allow him some rest after playing at Copa America.
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21st Century Paul:
unclesox:
Who's in front of him now at Real? Van Nistelrooy, Raul, Robinho, Higuain, Soldado has been bought, Baptista has returned... who else?
Reyes, Cassano...
well it depends of how Saviola will play... he could be in the starting, I don't know...
Another new striker at Real Madrid C.F. (Comedicos de Futbol)... Arjen Robben. Actually, he's more of an attacking midfielder, right?
Dangerous player when he's on, but talk about team morale issues! Robben and Saviola should provide some good material for the newspapers this season.
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unclesox:
Just curious: Does anyone here play fantasy football on premierleague.com? How about the Champions League version on uefa.com?
Anyone?
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unclesox:
21st Century Paul:
For instance, he always scores against Barcelona
, that's usual... because Barca played into the Atletico field and Torres got chances and big spaces to counter-attack but against other kinds of team he's very useless. But not if you play against Barcelona again.
And what was the score the last time Torres faced Barca?
At first I didn't remember...
6-0 like a tennis set. Worst game ever by Atletico
. I remember that the TV comments were like mine, they had never seen something like that before. Atletico simply... did nothing. There was a moment when Messi had the ball and the score was 3-0 or so. And he saw that he moved forward with the ball, and the defender not moved around at all. He looked to an older player (Xavi or Deco) like asking... "What must I do? Are we going to score another goal or not?"... I think he kicked the ball back to Xavi. Anyway, they scored 6 in spite of not wanting to do it or so. Everyone thought, if someone could do something about it is Fernando Torres, okey a typical counter-attack with a lot of space for Torres and then it happened what never has happened to Fernando.
When running with the ball he lefts it behind and almost fall to the ground... I don't know if you know them. The best singers-songwriters in Spain are Serrat (Barcelona supporter) and Sabina (Atletico supporter) were in the VIP places watching the game together (they tour together now, kind of a Lennon-McCartney)... and with 4-0 Sabina left to the bar.
And Serrat instead of being happy with the game was sad with the "show"... that was not a game!.
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unclesox:
unclesox:
Just curious: Does anyone here play fantasy football on premierleague.com? How about the Champions League version on uefa.com?
Anyone?
I play FIFA07 online.
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21st Century Paul:
I don't know if you know them. The best singers-songwriters in Spain are Serrat (Barcelona supporter) and Sabina (Atletico supporter) were in the VIP places watching the game together (they tour together now, kind of a Lennon-McCartney)... and with 4-0 Sabina left to the bar.
And Serrat instead of being happy with the game was sad with the "show"... that was not a game!.
The names sound familiar but I don't think I've ever heard them. Check this out:
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Well, when a goalkeeper fails much in Spain we use to say that he "sings"
. Casillas doesn't sing at the field. And Henry didn't dare to sing.
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I think Robben is almost signed. And the suprise is one player that lives here in my town. Iniesta. 50 milions? They should pay. Casillas Sergio Ramos Metzelder Cannavaro Torres Iniesta Diarra Robinho Raul Robben Van Nistelrooy that looks better. Helguera (Valencia CF) and Pavon have signed for other teams.
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Henry is smart enough to know better than to even try to sing... or rap. Unlike Casillas.
Iniesta responded today that he wants to end his career at Barca, and Laporta said that Iniesta is synonymous with the Barcelona badge. He's going nowhere. The story - invented by MARCA, of course
: - was another one of the many attempts by that Chamartin rag to try and upset to goings on at Camp Nou. Even Real Madrid had to come out and put the story to rest. Laporta and Perez had made an agreement that neither club would go after the others' players as long as they were still under contract.
I'm assuming Calderon has continued to live up to that agreement.
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unclesox:
Love Sculpture:
You had no problem with the Libertadores when Sao Paulo and Internacional won it. But after watching the way Boca Juniors took apart Gremio in the final, I do agree with you that Boca had an easy time winning the trophy this year. If they were able to keep all their players I'd put them as favorites to beat Milan. But they've already lost Riquelme, Díaz and Rodríguez, with Palacio and Marioni likely to follow. The price of success of Argentine clubs, always losing key players to the bigger money of Europe and Mexico. A shame.
But they are the all-time leader in winning international trophies for club team so I probably shouldn't underestimate them.
You know that the ex president of Internacional died in the airplane. Do you know a player called Nilmar? He almost dies too, he changed his airplane ticket, I dont know what happened. My team is Palmeiras, I really dont care about São Paulo unless they beat teams like Liverpool
Peace, life is so short, we have to enjoy it and be happy. But what a CHOCOLATE Argentina!!! Again!!!!! what a shame to lose playing against the "B" team like Oliver said. I hope the victims of the accdent rest in peace, life goes on. PALMEIRAS FIU FIU FIU
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Aw heck, I forgot you liked Palmeiras. Yeah, I heard about Amoretty being on the plane. Didn't know about Nilmar. Roberto de Assis, who represents his brother, Ronaldinho, in contract negotiations, said that he was supposed to travel to Sao Paulo on Tuesday but had to change plans at the last moment. He said he was supposed to arrive Tuesday evening but he wasn't sure if it was on the doomed flight. "Chocolate Argentina"? I don't get it. Because they play sweet futbol?
"B team"? Who else was missing besides Ronaldinho and Kaka? Er, and Adriano? I actually think Ronaldinho not playing helped Brazil because he had a terrible season with Barcelona, most likely due to fatigue. He needed to drop out of the team to gain some much needed rest so he can be firing on all cylinders for Barcelona. VISCA EL BARÇA!
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Robben signed and announced by Schuster. Now only the classic pic with Di Stefano is missed to make it "official". It looks like Drenthe or Iniesta would be the last one. Madrid needs one good passer in the midfield, if not they're gonna play the Capello way again. It doesn't matter much who he is but we need one!. Could Schuster play again?
REAL MADRID 2007/2008 ...........................Casillas The Brave
........................... Sergio Ramos/Cicinho Metzelder/Pepe Cannavaro Torres/Drenthe? .......................................Diarra............................................... .................Robinho............................Robbenho
.................... ...............Emerson/Guti/Iniesta?/Higuain/Baptista/Reyes.............. ..........................Van Nistelrooy..........Raul................................... BARCELONA 2007/2008 .......................................Valdes................................................... Zambrotta........Marquez/Milito......Puyol..........Abidal/Silvinho....... ......................................Toure/Edmilson................................... ..........Xavi/Iniesta.......................................Deco/Iniesta/Messi...... ....Messi/Etoo......................Etoo/Henry....................Ronaldinho........
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unclesox:
Laporta and Perez had made an agreement that neither club would go after the others' players as long as they were still under contract.
I'm assuming Calderon has continued to live up to that agreement.
Well, maybe the Iniesta story is all lies. But any agreement between football club president has not much credibility. (Even between nations presidents, but that's another story). When Perez signed Figo there was "peace" between Barça and Madrid too. I don't know when they really had the agreement with Saviola for instance. Now it looks like Madrid will do the "final touch". 70 milions are reserved to the "final crack". Usually in Madrid is signed at the end of the summer... maybe to sell newspapers in the meantime... Figo, Zidane, Beckham, Ronaldo, Robinho... they all were like that. Iniesta has said "He wants to stay in Barça" that's not the same that "I will stay in Barça" the real saying it's like... "I want to stay here but if they give me more money I will go there" or so. If it's not Iniesta I don't know who is.... great passer.... Kaka can not be, Cesc either, Pirlo? nooo.... Lampard?