The Official Football/Soccer Thread: 2017-2018 Season
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unclesox:
] 2000 quarterfinals Real Madrid - Manchester United ..... 0-0, 3-2 2003 quarterfinals Real Madrid - Manchester United ..... 3-1, 3-4 I reminded the last 3 games
21st Century Paul:
Barça seems ("surprisingly"
) to have everyone ready to play now. Messi, Etoo, Henry, Xavi, Deco, Iniesta, Abidal, Toure, Zambrotta, Puyol, Bojan, and I think Ronie too. I think Puyol would mark Cristiano Ronaldo and Cristiano would not do much.
Rijkaard's 18-man squad against Espanyol: Valdés, Pinto Zambrotta, Puyol, Milito, Márquez, Sylvinho, Abidal Xavi, Touré, Iniesta, Deco, Gudjohnsen Messi, Eto'o, Bojan, Henry, Giovani Puyol is suspended for the first game at Camp Nou. Back line will likely be... Zambrotta -- Marquez -- Milito -- Abidal Sylvinho's contract was to end after this season but Barcelona have offered him another one-year extension and he's agreed. I'd like to see him start against Man Utd as he's much more dangerous going forward than Abidal, who started the season well but has slowed down a bit.
Well, but with Cristiano Ronaldo don't you think you need a left back that defends quite well at last??? or maybe the idea is, as Cristiano can't defence there would be a lot of chances to attack there... The game can be very crazy.... and with Marquez and Milito I guess Barça would put the defence back as they are a lot slower than the ManUtd strikers.... same for Man Utd defence... I can talk a lot but I don't have a clue of how they're gonna play. Cruyff has been writing a lot lately about Ferguson in the newspapers and all seems unpredictable.
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I could stop talking bout Raul but it has happened again. The Raul inside the area-goal to break the draw and the League is almost won. A 10 points advantage of Real Madrid over Villareal with only 5 matches to go, they could be champions even next week. Some defenders complain bout the... silly funny complicate things Cristiano Ronaldo does when he dribble. They're lucky to have not played against Garrincha then. Garrincha, the best dribler ever!
but Messi or Cristiano may be as good as him in the future... but not yet, they don't have the skill. -
21st Century Paul:
I could stop talking bout Raul but it has happened again.
Aragonés still doesn't care. Nor should he. Spain have done well without him.
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PALMEIRAAAAASSSS UUUUUUUUUH!!!!! Finally a final!!! Now let's beat Ponte Preta and win the Paulistao!!! Palmeiras 2 vs 0 Sao Paulo
GRANDE PALESTRA ITALIA!!!!!
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Love Sculpture:
PALMEIRAAAAASSSS UUUUUUUUUH!!!!! Finally a final!!! Now let's beat Ponte Preta and win the Paulistao!!! Palmeiras 2 vs 0 Sao Paulo
GRANDE PALESTRA ITALIA!!!!!
Yeah, I watched part of the game, knew it, they have a good team... Internacional is in the final too, but 2 important players got hurt in the semi-final today, Alex and Guiñazu, in my opinion, the two best players in the team...
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InTheSkyWithDiamonds:
Love Sculpture:
PALMEIRAAAAASSSS UUUUUUUUUH!!!!! Finally a final!!! Now let's beat Ponte Preta and win the Paulistao!!! Palmeiras 2 vs 0 Sao Paulo
GRANDE PALESTRA ITALIA!!!!!
Yeah, I watched part of the game, knew it, they have a good team... Internacional is in the final too, but 2 important players got hurt in the semi-final today, Alex and Guiñazu, in my opinion, the two best players in the team...
If Palmeiras keep the team and stay united, they will be very competitive during the Campeonato Brasileiro., not only Palmeiras, but Inter too. I am glad Palmeiras have a good team. And I hope yout Inter wins the Gaucho Championship. I hope Palmeiras beats Ponte Preta, I am anxious.
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Link:
¡Visca el Barça!
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Blackpool 2 - 1 Sheff Wed 6' Claus Bech Jorgensen 1 12' 1 Richard Wood 30' Paul Dickov 2 51' Peter Gilbert feck!
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unclesox:
21st Century Paul:
I could stop talking bout Raul but it has happened again.
Aragonés still doesn't care. Nor should he. Spain have done well without him.
Denmark won an Euro Cup without Michael Laudrup, considered to be their best player ever. That's the strangest case I know. The only thing I don't believe is that Aragones doesn't care because of football reason, there should be something else about it, anyway seems it's not gonna be solved. I wish the Golden Ball for Raul though.
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I watched the Barça highlights and Barça did their usual good and bad things. The good things: ball control, passes in small spaces, even from the defenders, better that no other team, that's what we have liked all these years. The bad things: no playing for the wings, only trying to get into the area with passes and dribling. Even the wings try to go to the area instead going away to do crossings. That makes the space to defense smaller. It's very hard to see someone doing a crossing followed by a heading. All it's football "in the ground", nicer to see but there's no way to score if the others defend back. Etoo says he wants to go, Deco says "this team has went down in history". It's over and they'll change. Their Waterloo is this Wednesday against Manchester United. Still a nice game to see.
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21st Century Paul:
All it's football "in the ground", nicer to see but there's no way to score if the others defend back.
But isn't that okay? After all, you believe that jogo bonito is more important than the result.
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21st Century Paul:
Etoo says he wants to go...
Again, it looks like you've been reading MARCA too much. Eto'o never said he "wants" to leave. On the contrary, he said that he's very happy at Barcelona. But he's a competitor who hates losing, and he said that if Barcelona doesn't win any titles this season or next, he would probably ask the team for a transfer. Either way, it's a stupid comment to make three days before the Champions League semi-final.
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Etoo still plays there? I thought he was playing somewhere else
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Eto'o was out injured from September to December, then missed another month in January/February because he played for Cameroon in the African Cup of Nations. This season in La Liga... Eto'o has scored 14 goals in 15 matches (played 1253 minutes). Raúl has scored 17 goals in 33 matches (played 2816 minutes). Who the more efficient? Eto'o > Raúl
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Oh yeah, I remember when he was injured, I thought he was playing for Milan, duh! I think Eto'o is better than Raul.
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unclesox:
21st Century Paul:
All it's football "in the ground", nicer to see but there's no way to score if the others defend back.
But isn't that okay? After all, you believe that jogo bonito is more important than the result.
but man, jogo bonito is not playing only by the middle not using the wings! that's only a ugly collision in the middle, right before the area. Figo, Beckham, Best, Cristiano Ronaldo, Garrincha, Gento, Roberto Carlos and the people that have "widened the field" were not "ugly play".
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unclesox:
21st Century Paul:
Etoo says he wants to go...
Again, it looks like you've been reading MARCA too much. Eto'o never said he "wants" to leave. On the contrary, he said that he's very happy at Barcelona. But he's a competitor who hates losing, and he said that if Barcelona doesn't win any titles this season or next, he would probably ask the team for a transfer. Either way, it's a stupid comment to make three days before the Champions League semi-final.
yes, it's true, he said just what you say, I wrote in a rush... I listened to Etoo for an hour on the radio yesterday and they talked about it a lot. Etoo is like me in that, he says what he wants to say no matter if it's "appropiate" or not.
PS I NEVER read Marca.
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unclesox:
Eto'o was out injured from September to December, then missed another month in January/February because he played for Cameroon in the African Cup of Nations. This season in La Liga... Eto'o has scored 14 goals in 15 matches (played 1253 minutes). Raúl has scored 17 goals in 33 matches (played 2816 minutes). Who the more efficient? Eto'o > Raúl
no way, Etoo has played always as the centre striker, the 9, you know. And Raul only when Van Nistelrooy is not in. I think that if Barça had Raul and Real Madrid had Etoo, Barça would be leading the League. Kind of what happened with Casillas and Valdes past year.
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Sounds like you think Raul is the greatest thing ever created since life itself. He's not, nor is he better than Eto'o. Ask any neutral supporter which player they'd rather have on their team and the vast majority would say Eto'o. And although Valdes has made a few mistakes in recent games, I believe he's been a more positive than negative member of the team. He has kept Barcelona in many games with many quality saves and if it wasn't for him Barça would be struggling to finish in a Champions League spot (top four in La Liga). I'm not saying Valdes is equal or better than Casillas because he's clearly not, but he's been more valuable to Barcelona than many give him credit for.
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unclesox:
Sounds like you think Raul is the greatest thing ever created since life itself.
No, that are The Beatles.
But as striker, when the defence of the rival is next to the area, I think he's the best in the world by far. Etoo is much better for open spaces, counterattacks, but no way when the others are defending like most teams do. I hear on radio, the people that talk about Barça here, saying that what Raul is doing is almost unbelievable. Kind of Casillas, past year. He walks inside an area full of defenders, loses all the marks, so he's alone, receives a pass, and goal, breaking the defence. The most important player in the world for me. I'm not gonna call him "the best" but "the most important", the MVP like in the NBA. you had it coming
, goals from Raul, some of that, from this season