The Official Football/Soccer Thread: 2017-2018 Season
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21st Century Paul:
Shots on target don't mean much if they don't become goals.... they were not dangerous anyway...
I guess you missed Henry's two shots saved by Van Der Sar. He couldn't handle one (had to punch it) because it was too wicked (it 'knuckled' is how we say it here), and the other was the free kick. Henry or Yaya needs to take more free kicks.
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unclesox:
21st Century Paul:
Shots on target don't mean much if they don't become goals.... they were not dangerous anyway...
I guess you missed Henry's two shots saved by Van Der Sar. He couldn't handle one (had to punch it) because it was too wicked (it 'knuckled' is how we say it here), and the other was the free kick. Henry or Yaya needs to take more free kicks.
Both shots went to the hands of the keeper, it weren't hard to stop. And anyway that doesn't matter much in the end, if not the Spain team could still think about... "oh we almost made a goal five times" etc. And if it's about this... the penalty was by far the most dangeous shoot!. Today I've seen a video on the news that shows that Cristiano Ronaldo does, before shooting the penalty, the same gestures that Johnny Wilkinson do (maybe that's why the ball went too high
). He could try a rabona penalty too. I tried once and I hit the post, I think there's no need of risking so much, before once you do the rabona the goalkeeper doesn't make a move.
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21st Century Paul:
Both shots went to the hands of the keeper, it weren't hard to stop. And anyway that doesn't matter much in the end, if not the Spain team could still think about... "oh we almost made a goal five times" etc. And if it's about this... the penalty was by far the most dangeous shoot!. Today I've seen a video on the news that shows that Cristiano Ronaldo does, before shooting the penalty, the same gestures that Johnny Wilkinson do (maybe that's why the ball went too high
). He could try a rabona penalty too. I tried once and I hit the post, I think there's no need of risking so much, before once you do the rabona the goalkeeper doesn't make a move.
Any shot on target is dangerous because one of three things can happen: 1) the goalkeeper has to work to keep the ball out; 2) the shot hits the goal frame; 3) it's a goal. Just because it's not a goal doesn't mean it's not meaningful. At the very least Ferguson will have to figure out how to keep Barca from getting off shot opportunities because one deflection or an outstretched leg by a defender could prove vital. C.Ronaldo missed the penalty because he couldn't handle the pressure. Nothing new there. Around the 25 minute mark he was running down the right on a counter attack and lost the ball without any challenge from a defender. Critics of C.Ronaldo say that as great a talent he looks against the likes of Bolton, Wigan and Fulham, he fails to deliver in the big games against quality opposition, especially away from Old Trafford. So it proved last night at Camp Nou. In my mind, attempting a rebona penalty serves no purpose other than to humiliate and embarrass the opposition. Same with Kerlon and his stupid "foquina" dribble. Players who do those crap sort of things need to be elbowed in the jaw when the referee isn't looking.
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Intheskywithdiamonds Good luck with the game on Saturday. I really hope that Man U win but there are still 3 points between the two teams. Please please please don't let Chelsea win as it will give them a better chance of winning the League. And I really don't want that!! As for the Gunners ................ lost interest. Yet again.
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hettyw:
Intheskywithdiamonds Good luck with the game on Saturday. I really hope that Man U win but there are still 3 points between the two teams. Please please please don't let Chelsea win as it will give them a better chance of winning the League. And I really don't want that!! As for the Gunners ................ lost interest. Yet again.
thanks! I think it will be a draw... dont know why... anyway, if that happens, it's fine... As for the Champions league, I thought the game was pretty boring (Man U X Barca), Barcelona did play better, but created nothing... If Cristiano scored that early goal, things would have been much different, dont really know what would have happened... anyway, draw was ok for united, thats what they wanted anyway...
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Attempting a rabona in a penalty is not a lack of respect, it's just a way to get it in. Like shooting in the Panenka way or make a dribbling. Maybe if you win 4-0 and you shoot a penalty in a rabona way, it could be something unrespectful, but if you're 0-0 it's because it's your way to do it really. If not we would not have any "jogo bonito". No Laudrup passes, no Garrincha dribbling... no Ronie things, no Pele, no Maradona, no Beckenbauer, no Di Stefano, no Zidane... it simply wouldn't be a show. Now, after all the violence there is in football... I don't think anything you can do with the ball can be "unrespectful" compared to all the physical agression there is, enough to end someone career. And no career has ended because you have suffered a rabona or so. okey. Maradona!
in the video he gets into a fight, and the next image is a rabona by the way...
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21st Century Paul:
Now, after all the violence there is in football... I don't think anything you can do with the ball can be "unrespectful" compared to all the physical agression there is, enough to end someone career. And no career has ended because you have suffered a rabona or so.
So you like what Kerlon does with his "foquina"? You need to organize some type of Harlem Globetrotters football team and travel the world with them since you're so much into this whole jogo bonito thing.
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Leicester 1 - 3 Sheff Wed 9' Iain Hume 1 45' 1 Bartosz Slusarski 53' 2 Steve Watson 89' 3 Leon Clarke phew....
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Intheskywithdiamonds Sorry to hear about the score today. I think the title can still go to Man U as long as they don't slip up from now on as they are level on points. I think Chelsea are unbeatable but i'm really hoping that they slip up on the next game.
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i hate all three but man yooouuu winning is better than chelskie and the gooners....
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unclesox:
21st Century Paul:
Now, after all the violence there is in football... I don't think anything you can do with the ball can be "unrespectful" compared to all the physical agression there is, enough to end someone career. And no career has ended because you have suffered a rabona or so.
So you like what Kerlon does with his "foquina"? You need to organize some type of Harlem Globetrotters football team and travel the world with them since you're so much into this whole jogo bonito thing.
Ain't Barça that?
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what a game between Chelsea and Manchester
. Drogba and Ballack almost hit each other to kick the free kick. After kicking Drogba went to the coach to say "It's me who kick the free kicks in this me, just me!"... Well, I don't know the words but just watching his gestures...
Maybe both teams are gonna pay for the match in the Champions League.
: In Italy Inter can be champion today. And In Spain Real Madrid too. Barça continues not scoring goals (2 goals (against Recreativo) in 5 matches (Getafe, Recreativo, Español, Machester and Deportivo). Or three games without scoring too. If Villareal doesn't win today and Real Madrid does, the show at Cibeles Square will begin. 70000 people have already made an appointment by the Internet to go the Square. And Raul is preparing for this again.
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21st Century Paul:
unclesox:
You need to organize some type of Harlem Globetrotters football team and travel the world with them since you're so much into this whole jogo bonito thing.
Ain't Barça that?
"Ain't"?
Anyway, I've never suggested they were, and you continuosly keep ripping them apart about their style of play so I don't know what you're on about there.
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unclesox:
21st Century Paul:
unclesox:
You need to organize some type of Harlem Globetrotters football team and travel the world with them since you're so much into this whole jogo bonito thing.
Ain't Barça that?
"Ain't"?
Anyway, I've never suggested they were, and you continuosly keep ripping them apart about their style of play so I don't know what you're on about there.
I mean that I think that Barça is kind of football Grobetrotters team in the present. They keep doing complicated things with the ball but... they don't move away from the defenders mark, they don't do crossings or even play by the wings, they don't do heading, they don't shoot from distance, they don't defend much... and that's left it's a kind of Globetrotters team. Globetrotters never shoot from distance, they didn't defence, they seemed to play right, but they didn't. It's all a collapse in front of the other team area doing a lot of things there. That can be defended just with some defenders standing still there. Today is the Waterloo day. Ronaldinho hasn't travelled.
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Shame on you Liverpool ...............you nearly beat Chelsea
Final score: Chelsea 3 Liverpool 2 Still, at least they will play Man U next month and will get beaten (I hope). And Paul, if you are reading this......i think Everton might just beat Arsenal on Sunday ...... given how poorly we have been playing recently.
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Well done to Manchester United. I felt over the two legs that Barcelona were the better side, but their lack of scoring in the last five games as well as their overall form since the end of February doesn't suggest that they deserve to be playing for the trophy. The only consolations I can take is that they didn't concede seven goals as some had predicted they would, and that Messi cemented his status over C.Ronaldo, which really wasn't in question to begin with. So, it's Manchester United v Chelsea in Moscow. A replay of last season's FA Cup final.
: I sense this season's FA Cup final will be more entertaining. And they'll really have to go some to equal the spectacle of last season's all-Spanish UEFA Cup final.
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[quote="unclesox"]Well done to Manchester United. I felt over the two legs that Barcelona were the better side, but their lack of scoring in the last five games as well as their overall form since the end of February doesn't suggest that they deserve to be playing for the trophy. The only consolations I can take is that they didn't concede seven goals as some had predicted they would, and that Messi cemented his status over C.Ronaldo, which really wasn't in question to begin with. So, it's Manchester United v Chelsea in Moscow. A replay of last season's FA Cup final. roll I sense this season's FA Cup final will be more entertaining. And they'll really have to go some to equal the spectacle of last season's all-Spanish UEFA Cup final. You are right, this years FA Cup Final will be much more entertaining than than the champions league (Chelski v Man Ure)!!! Just waiting for my ticket to drop through the door! Life is on hold and things are reaching fever pitch for Cardiff fans. You must be supporting The Bluebirds unclesox?
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a_bluebird:
unclesox:
So, it's Manchester United v Chelsea in Moscow. A replay of last season's FA Cup final.
: I sense this season's FA Cup final will be more entertaining. And they'll really have to go some to equal the spectacle of last season's all-Spanish UEFA Cup final.
You are right, this years FA Cup Final will be much more entertaining than than the champions league (Chelski v Man Ure)!!! Just waiting for my ticket to drop through the door! Life is on hold and things are reaching fever pitch for Cardiff fans. You must be supporting The Bluebirds unclesox?
Always love to see top flight clubs be given a lesson by lower league opposition.
Besides, Wolves are my favorite English team and I still have a soft spot for Dave Jones.
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I was totally wrong about the 7 goals. I also thought Barça would score 3 o 4 but the games have been a lot different, you know. Ferguson speculation about Barça can't score about a defense that goes back, etc. All the newspaper in Barcelona have the same headlines "It's over" "This team is over" "End of an era". And all the conversations were about the game and about changing half of the team. It's the end of this team, who was great at least for two years. I think I know who you would feel. When the Galactics started playing badly they kept on winning anyway, then someone told me he has noticing some strange things on the team. That team colapsed in a similar way than Barça. And I remember 1 year and a half ago some friend telling me that Barça was starting to do the same things that the Galactics started to do... I didn't believe, I said they played allright!. And I think the key of it all it's Ronaldinho. It's what happen that we don't understand? Why the best player of the world, stop playing normally, and in the end stop playing, what has happened, some internal problem I guess. Some of the best moments of Ronaldinho's Barça to go down in history. Then the Barça players still lost their markers. Football depends on that to attack. Xavi......................Etoo Rival.....................Rival No pass ...........................Etoo ............................^ Xavi.....................^ Rival....................Rival Good pass
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Barcelona hasn't scored in 3 games, even less with Manchester's deffense. By the way, although I live in the States, I'm from Villarreal, and as proud as ever, enjoying the best season of the history of my team so far. I remember going to the games in 3rd division years ago...