The 2012 and beyond Political Thread - Part 2
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The_Fool:
[size=1]I gotta stay out of this thread
Don't forget to take the vile arrogant megalomaniacal Trump with you. People who suck up to him because he is rich are going against the grain of every good thing that true american's were taught. It is very sad!!!
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SurSteven:
The_Fool:
[size=1]I gotta stay out of this thread
Don't forget to take the vile arrogant megalomaniacal Trump with you. People who suck up to him because he is rich are going against the grain of every good thing that true american's were taught. It is very sad!!!
I guess having 140 million plus dollars is considered poor as in Hilary Cinton. And to have her look the family of those who died in the eye and say it was a video that caused their death and we will get the Video maker, when she knew that was not it ever. I'm not defending Trump... There is more slime in this race. Not just Trump.
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I know that Trump pulling Sarah Palin onto his side has made me definitely NOT want to vote for him. Her voice hurts my ears. Just so many more reasons, besides shooting wolves. No way for Trump now, period.
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The_Fool:
I guess having 140 million plus dollars is considered poor as in Hilary Cinton. And to have her look the family of those who died in the eye and say it was a video that caused their death and we will get the Video maker, when she knew that was not it ever. I'm not defending Trump... There is more slime in this race. Not just Trump.
If you are an average incomed or lower working American, you are a million more times better off supporting a Democrat than a Republican. Republicans believe that we live in a wide open economy in which every one can be rich, and if they're not, they are just lazy. The economy is a closed curve pie. You don't make excess amounts of money unless someone is being under paid for their work or someone is being over charged for a product. Did you know that Trump pays himself $250 million dollars a year? That is the equivalent of 5,000 average American working people's incomes. He may even be paying himself more than that now. He could be paying himself a "mere" 1,000,000 a year and could create 4,980 average income jobs out of the surplus which comes out of everyone else's pockets.
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SurSteven:
If you are an average incomed or lower working American, you are a million more times better off supporting a Democrat than a Republican. Republicans believe that we live in a wide open economy in which every one can be rich, and if they're not, they are just lazy. The economy is a closed curve pie. You don't make excess amounts of money unless someone is being under paid for their work or someone is being over charged for a product. Did you know that Trump pays himself $250 million dollars a year? That is the equivalent of 5,000 average American working people's incomes. He may even be paying himself more than that now. He could be paying himself a "mere" 1,000,000 a year and could create 4,980 average income jobs out of the surplus which comes out of everyone else's pockets.
While you view things that way .... Another view may show that Donald Trump has approximately 22,000 employees bringing in 9.3 Billion dollars reported last year. It is estimated that another 10,000 people or more who are not employed by his company may benefit by having things like restaurants, stores and services that work indirectly with his company. All of them spend the money that they make into the economy. He spreads his money around. He is quite the entertainer and has made this election cycle just a bit more interesting and on edge compared to how boring it would be without him in it. He is a loose cannon and I would cringe to think of him as President - but at least he got people to sit up and notice what some of the issues are on peoples minds out in the real world beyond the political narrow vision scan of a good guess if they were lucky to have an on the ball support staff. He lit a fire under a few of the bums who thought they were entitled to the job without putting forth any effort. I don't think a majority of people ever thought Donald Trump would make it this far. So far my bummer part is that the Democrats gave me the finger - saying it is Hilary Clinton (a Saul Alinsky and George Soros follower and Socialist) and Bernie Sanders (a self pronounced Socialist leaning strong toward Communism) .... and another guy in it for looks ..... so it will come off as Hilary Clinton had to work hard for it .... when she feels like she shouldn't have to put in the effort and is entitled to the job. It is funny to see Bernie Sanders taking off and doing better than the party ever expected. Hilary Clinton in my opinion has done too many unethical, questionable practices in her dealing with the U.S.A. as a Government person and as a someone who is suppose to represent the people. I am ticked off that the Establishment - and rich elite have given such bad and horrible choices and make the calls of who will win. It almost seems fixed already. Nobody on the other side - The Republicans have got me interested. The establishment wants to pick their candidates for this side too. (Without letting the people decide). This is why I am glad to see Donald Trump messing up their plans for now. The only thing that I ask from that side for now is to have Jeb Bush drop out. I do not want to see Jeb Bush or Hilary Clinton get to the office of President of the U.S. The sad thing is one of these candidates from the Democrat side and the Republican side can accidently win and become President of the U.S.A and that is scary.
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I have been determined after all the debates to select a democrat this time around. love doris
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Hilarious and, sadly, a spot-on depiction of the racist, knuckle-dragging, war-mongering, homophobic, paranoid Americans who buy into Donald Trump's "Make America Great Again" nonsense. [MADtv] Darlene McBride- Take Back America Tour:
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The_Fool:
SurSteven:
If you are an average incomed or lower working American, you are a million more times better off supporting a Democrat than a Republican. Republicans believe that we live in a wide open economy in which every one can be rich, and if they're not, they are just lazy. The economy is a closed curve pie. You don't make excess amounts of money unless someone is being under paid for their work or someone is being over charged for a product. Did you know that Trump pays himself $250 million dollars a year? That is the equivalent of 5,000 average American working people's incomes. He may even be paying himself more than that now. He could be paying himself a "mere" 1,000,000 a year and could create 4,980 average income jobs out of the surplus which comes out of everyone else's pockets.
While you view things that way .... Another view may show that Donald Trump has approximately 22,000 employees bringing in 9.3 Billion dollars reported last year. It is estimated that another 10,000 people or more who are not employed by his company may benefit by having things like restaurants, stores and services that work indirectly with his company. All of them spend the money that they make into the economy. He spreads his money around. He is quite the entertainer and has made this election cycle just a bit more interesting and on edge compared to how boring it would be without him in it. He is a loose cannon and I would cringe to think of him as President - but at least he got people to sit up and notice what some of the issues are on peoples minds out in the real world beyond the political narrow vision scan of a good guess if they were lucky to have an on the ball support staff. He lit a fire under a few of the bums who thought they were entitled to the job without putting forth any effort. I don't think a majority of people ever thought Donald Trump would make it this far. So far my bummer part is that the Democrats gave me the finger - saying it is Hilary Clinton (a Saul Alinsky and George Soros follower and Socialist) and Bernie Sanders (a self pronounced Socialist leaning strong toward Communism) .... and another guy in it for looks ..... so it will come off as Hilary Clinton had to work hard for it .... when she feels like she shouldn't have to put in the effort and is entitled to the job. It is funny to see Bernie Sanders taking off and doing better than the party ever expected. Hilary Clinton in my opinion has done too many unethical, questionable practices in her dealing with the U.S.A. as a Government person and as a someone who is suppose to represent the people. I am ticked off that the Establishment - and rich elite have given such bad and horrible choices and make the calls of who will win. It almost seems fixed already. Nobody on the other side - The Republicans have got me interested. The establishment wants to pick their candidates for this side too. (Without letting the people decide). This is why I am glad to see Donald Trump messing up their plans for now. The only thing that I ask from that side for now is to have Jeb Bush drop out. I do not want to see Jeb Bush or Hilary Clinton get to the office of President of the U.S. The sad thing is one of these candidates from the Democrat side and the Republican side can accidently win and become President of the U.S.A and that is scary.
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dorismendlovitz:
I have been determined after all the debates to select a democrat this time around. love doris
The only genuine Democrat running is Bernie Sanders. Hillary Clinton is a corporate-shilling liar.
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Intermission : Music that reminds me of politicians. Promises, Promises - Naked Eyes
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My fave by them!
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^^ it is groovy!๏ธ
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audi:
The_Fool:
SurSteven:
If you are an average incomed or lower working American, you are a million more times better off supporting a Democrat than a Republican. Republicans believe that we live in a wide open economy in which every one can be rich, and if they're not, they are just lazy. The economy is a closed curve pie. You don't make excess amounts of money unless someone is being under paid for their work or someone is being over charged for a product. Did you know that Trump pays himself $250 million dollars a year? That is the equivalent of 5,000 average American working people's incomes. He may even be paying himself more than that now. He could be paying himself a "mere" 1,000,000 a year and could create 4,980 average income jobs out of the surplus which comes out of everyone else's pockets.
While you view things that way .... Another view may show that Donald Trump has approximately 22,000 employees bringing in 9.3 Billion dollars reported last year. It is estimated that another 10,000 people or more who are not employed by his company may benefit by having things like restaurants, stores and services that work indirectly with his company. All of them spend the money that they make into the economy. He spreads his money around. He is quite the entertainer and has made this election cycle just a bit more interesting and on edge compared to how boring it would be without him in it. He is a loose cannon and I would cringe to think of him as President - but at least he got people to sit up and notice what some of the issues are on peoples minds out in the real world beyond the political narrow vision scan of a good guess if they were lucky to have an on the ball support staff. He lit a fire under a few of the bums who thought they were entitled to the job without putting forth any effort. I don't think a majority of people ever thought Donald Trump would make it this far. So far my bummer part is that the Democrats gave me the finger - saying it is Hilary Clinton (a Saul Alinsky and George Soros follower and Socialist) and Bernie Sanders (a self pronounced Socialist leaning strong toward Communism) .... and another guy in it for looks ..... so it will come off as Hilary Clinton had to work hard for it .... when she feels like she shouldn't have to put in the effort and is entitled to the job. It is funny to see Bernie Sanders taking off and doing better than the party ever expected. Hilary Clinton in my opinion has done too many unethical, questionable practices in her dealing with the U.S.A. as a Government person and as a someone who is suppose to represent the people. I am ticked off that the Establishment - and rich elite have given such bad and horrible choices and make the calls of who will win. It almost seems fixed already. Nobody on the other side - The Republicans have got me interested. The establishment wants to pick their candidates for this side too. (Without letting the people decide). This is why I am glad to see Donald Trump messing up their plans for now. The only thing that I ask from that side for now is to have Jeb Bush drop out. I do not want to see Jeb Bush or Hilary Clinton get to the office of President of the U.S. The sad thing is one of these candidates from the Democrat side and the Republican side can accidently win and become President of the U.S.A and that is scary.
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[Secular Talk] Bill O'Reilly Is Leaving America If Bernie Sanders Wins:
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audi:
[Secular Talk] Bill O'Reilly Is Leaving America If Bernie Sanders Wins:
Yes to Ireland where they have national healthcare and very strict gun laws
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Exactly! LOL!
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"Bernie Sanders (a self pronounced Socialist leaning strong toward Communism)" ~ The_Fool The most foolish thing about this statement I guess, and you're not alone in your beliefs, is that we in America are living in the very worst form of communism possible "right" now! It's called Oligarchic Capitalist Communism where 1% of the people have 99% of the money and 99% of the people are expected to equally share (communism) the other 1% of the money. Unfortunately, there are people in the 1% incomed who are striving to join in with the economic elite and driving more and more people in our country further and further into the stress of poverty, which is burdening our police forces, our humanitarian resources and creating 99% of all of our problems. Which brings me to Sarah Palin implying that President Obama is somehow responsible for her personal problems. I have an ex-marine friend who just stopped by and I told him what she had said and he replied,"That's Crazy!" Soldiers have been coming home from war with various problems since the beginning of time. Alcohol overuse is one of the major ones! It has absolutely nothing to do with who our President is. It is a matter of personal responsibility and she has obviously not been very responsible toward her own. My Marine friend and I had to laugh when I told him that she will probably be flying around in her helicopter now shooting stray dogs and cats for her stress relief. Very sad actually...Where do these people get these delusional ideas anyway? And, now Trump claims that he's making a stand for Jesus. Get flippin' serious!!! If he were to read that dust covered New Testament that's been sitting on his mantle for ages, he would immediately call the Pope and schedule himself an EXORCISM!...
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SurSteven:
"Bernie Sanders (a self pronounced Socialist leaning strong toward Communism)" ~ The_Fool The most foolish thing about this statement I guess, and you're not alone in your beliefs, is that we in America are living in the very worst form of communism possible "right" now! It's called Oligarchic Capitalist Communism where 1% of the people have 99% of the money and 99% of the people are expected to equally share (communism) the other 1% of the money. Unfortunately, there are people in the 1% incomed who are striving to join in with the economic elite and driving more and more people in our country further and further into the stress of poverty, which is burdening our police forces, our humanitarian resources and creating 99% of all of our problems. Which brings me to Sarah Palin implying that President Obama is somehow responsible for her personal problems. I have an ex-marine friend who just stopped by and I told him what she had said and he replied,"That's Crazy!" Soldiers have been coming home from war with various problems since the beginning of time. Alcohol overuse is one of the major ones! It has absolutely nothing to do with who our President is. It is a matter of personal responsibility and she has obviously not been very responsible toward her own. My Marine friend and I had to laugh when I told him that she will probably be flying around in her helicopter now shooting stray dogs and cats for her stress relief. Very sad actually...Where do these people get these delusional ideas anyway? And, now Trump claims that he's making a stand for Jesus. Get flippin' serious!!! If he were to read that dust covered New Testament that's been sitting on his mantle for ages, he would immediately call the Pope and schedule himself an EXORCISM!...
I hate to defend Sarah Palin, but it is not HER responsibility to take care of her son's PTSD. It should be the duty of the U.S. Government to be responsible for the mental and physical health of our brave military men and women when they come home. The U.S. Government is pathetic on the record for their "care" of its military men and women. PTSD is not a thing to laugh about and you and your marine friend should know that. I have complex PTSD and it is a life debilitating condition. I have known many veterans from many wars and they live with it everyday. I don't think it is funny at all. And I have even known one that shot his own dogs he became so dysfuctional. Many who have it victimize others because they never received proper treatment to readjust to society. Making jokes about PTSD is not appropriate. I never laugh about it.
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hey_kittay:
SurSteven:
"Bernie Sanders (a self pronounced Socialist leaning strong toward Communism)" ~ The_Fool The most foolish thing about this statement I guess, and you're not alone in your beliefs, is that we in America are living in the very worst form of communism possible "right" now! It's called Oligarchic Capitalist Communism where 1% of the people have 99% of the money and 99% of the people are expected to equally share (communism) the other 1% of the money. Unfortunately, there are people in the 1% incomed who are striving to join in with the economic elite and driving more and more people in our country further and further into the stress of poverty, which is burdening our police forces, our humanitarian resources and creating 99% of all of our problems. Which brings me to Sarah Palin implying that President Obama is somehow responsible for her personal problems. I have an ex-marine friend who just stopped by and I told him what she had said and he replied,"That's Crazy!" Soldiers have been coming home from war with various problems since the beginning of time. Alcohol overuse is one of the major ones! It has absolutely nothing to do with who our President is. It is a matter of personal responsibility and she has obviously not been very responsible toward her own. My Marine friend and I had to laugh when I told him that she will probably be flying around in her helicopter now shooting stray dogs and cats for her stress relief. Very sad actually...Where do these people get these delusional ideas anyway? And, now Trump claims that he's making a stand for Jesus. Get flippin' serious!!! If he were to read that dust covered New Testament that's been sitting on his mantle for ages, he would immediately call the Pope and schedule himself an EXORCISM!...
I hate to defend Sarah Palin, but it is not HER responsibility to take care of her son's PTSD. It should be the duty of the U.S. Government to be responsible for the mental and physical health of our brave military men and women when they come home. The U.S. Government is pathetic on the record for their "care" of its military men and women. PTSD is not a thing to laugh about and you and your marine friend should know that. I have complex PTSD and it is a life debilitating condition. I have known many veterans from many wars and they live with it everyday. I don't think it is funny at all. And I have even known one that shot his own dogs he became so dysfuctional. Many who have it victimize others because they never received proper treatment to readjust to society. Making jokes about PTSD is not appropriate. I never laugh about it.
We weren't laughing about anyone's problems. We were laughing about people who blame everyone else for their problems without attempting to do anything at all for themselves. My friend also has PTSD, but he doesn't sit around and whine about it, and blame everyone else...for it.
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^^ As long as your friend, and other veterans, are getting proper treatment for PTSD, which should be free and comprehensive by the U.S. government, and is not harming others that is great. Any ex military or current military who have PTSD should get help and not take out their aggressions on others. I have CPTSD from an ex military person who never got help. Then he employed other ex military to repeatedly follow me around the country and revictimize me. When ex military cannot readjust to society they take jobs from psychopathic opportunists with money who exploit their condition. Then they suffer even more dire consequences. I have seen it for 28 years now. They come and go. No one comes out a winner. Never see one yet. So the moral to the story is if my ex fiancรฉe had gotten proper psychological help hundreds, maybe even thousands of people would not have had their lives destroyed. It is a domino effect. The U.S. government is responsible for what they create and let out in society.