The 2012 and beyond Political Thread - Part 2
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Lots of pants on fire this week at the convention.
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mustangsally10:
Andy_Shofar:
mustangsally10:
the republican campaign is based on lies They keep telling the lie about Obama removing work requirements from welfare...that is a lie http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/2012/aug/07/mitt-romney/mitt-romney-says-barack-obamas-plan-abandons-tenet/ They keep telling the lie about Obama reducing medicare benefits that is a lie http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/2012/08/obama-medicare-cuts-romney-ad-paid-in.php they are running a campaign based and racism and lies and are finally being called on it. amazing that their followers don't even care..even though they lose if r&r are elected
Are you personally watching it all ...???
you must be referring to the convention... no my mind doesn't tolerate that much idiocy at one time..i was referring to the campaign as i said. but guess that are doing the same at the convention amazing bots
I didn't think you had to courage to face much in the way of truth either ... But you luv your fiction, don'tch ...?!
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Secretary Condoleezza Rice Aug 29, 2012 _ Tampa, FL
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Clint Eastwood?s speech AUGUST 30, 2012 "... They were saying, I just thought, this was great. Everybody is trying, Oprah was crying. I was even crying. And then finally -- and I haven?t cried that hard since I found out that there is 23 million unemployed people in this country."
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One of these days..just one of these glorious days, a conservative will post something of substance around here.
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Andy_Shofar:
Clint Eastwood?s speech AUGUST 30, 2012 "... They were saying, I just thought, this was great. Everybody is trying, Oprah was crying. I was even crying. And then finally -- and I haven?t cried that hard since I found out that there is 23 million unemployed people in this country."
So, what's the GOP's job-creating solution?
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AbbeyRoadCrosser:
mustangsally10:
WOW the press is waking up calling out the repub speakers especially ryan as liars
Please, the press has been kissing Obama's arse since day one.
Here Fox yep looks like even they know they can't keep defending this crap...it's just too blatant fox says ryan had a mouth full of cow dung i knew that but fox
That piece was written by a liberal commentator. So is Fox News "fair and balanced" now? Ryan never blamed Obama for the closure of the factory in Janesville. He called him out on these quotes. Obama said, ?If our government is there to support you, and give you the assistance you need to re-tool and make this transition?this plant will be here for another hundred years." and this, ?As president, I will lead an effort to retool plants like the GM facility in Janesville so we can build the fuel-efficient cars of tomorrow and create good-paying jobs in Wisconsin and all across America.? The factory closed for good in April of 2009, under Obama's watch.
audi:
Had to share this. Not trying to insult anyone's faith, but... ..,."Why does Romney lie so much? It's part of the Mormon doctrine. It's okay to lie, when it's "Lying For Thr Lord." Google it. Also Google "Milk before meat." It's Mormon doctrine also. It's why Romney won't release his tax returns.... "why give them meat, when milk will do."
I know you didn't mean to offend 'audi', but that post was offensive and unnecessary.
Lie. The plant closed in December 2008, but I can understand why you'd want to distort the date here. After all, the GOP spent so much time selling America this idea, and it wouldn't be nearly as effective if voters understood that it actually closed a month before President Obama was inaugurated. Also, no, Fox News isn't fair and balanced, unless you equate a blog entry on the outlet's Web site to the prime TV space they give to conservative shills, both in the editorial (O'Reilly, Hannity) and hard news spheres. If I turn the channel to Fox and find them discussing the facts that Romney proposed an even bigger stimulus as a means to recover in 2008 and that Paul Ryan lusted after stimulus funds for his own district despite decrying the 'big government overspending,' then they might become fair and balanced.
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Connection issue made me double-post my previous comment.
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audi:
Andy_Shofar:
Clint Eastwood?s speech AUGUST 30, 2012 "... They were saying, I just thought, this was great. Everybody is trying, Oprah was crying. I was even crying. And then finally -- and I haven?t cried that hard since I found out that there is 23 million unemployed people in this country."
So, what's the GOP's job-creating solution?
I'll tell you audi, because Stephen Colbert outlined it very specifically the other night. The GOP plan for an economic recovery is a simple, four-part solution: 1) You'll 2) Find 3) Out 4) Later
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service_gamer:
Lie. The plant closed in December 2008, but I can understand why you'd want to distort the date here. After all, the GOP spent so much time selling America this idea, and it wouldn't be nearly as effective if voters understood that it actually closed a month before President Obama was inaugurated.
http://www.jsonline.com/business/130171578.html "Since they were shut down in 2009, both the Janesville and Tennessee plants..."
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AbbeyRoadCrosser:
service_gamer:
Lie. The plant closed in December 2008, but I can understand why you'd want to distort the date here. After all, the GOP spent so much time selling America this idea, and it wouldn't be nearly as effective if voters understood that it actually closed a month before President Obama was inaugurated.
http://www.jsonline.com/business/130171578.html "Since they were shut down in 2009, both the Janesville and Tennessee plants..."
The lingering question is what month in 2009? Obama was sworn in January '09 -- and service_gamer indicated that the plant closed in December '08, which would mean absolutely no blood on our President's hands. This article seemingly estimated the closing date, but I actually commend you for citing an actual news source.
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Carry on...
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audi:
Andy_Shofar:
Clint Eastwood?s speech AUGUST 30, 2012 "... They were saying, I just thought, this was great. Everybody is trying, Oprah was crying. I was even crying. And then finally -- and I haven?t cried that hard since I found out that there is 23 million unemployed people in this country."
So, what's the GOP's job-creating solution?
And why should a famous Hollywood Filmmaker, Actor propose a job making solution. It appears to me that you would rather not discuss the content of what he did say. The transcript is at the Washington Post link above ...
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September 09, 2012 NY Times Best Sellers Hardcover Nonfiction 2. OBAMA'S AMERICA, by Dinesh D'Souza. (Regnery, $27.95.) An argument that President Obama is the architect of American decline. 3. THE AMATEUR, by Edward Klein. (Regnery, $27.95.) A journalist argues that President Obama is callow and unable to lead. 6. SHADOWBOSSES, by Mallory Factor. (Center Street, $24.99.) A Citadel professor claims that public unions, already a threat to elections and the American way of life, are targeting millions of Americans for forced unionization. 8. FOOL ME TWICE, by Aaron Klein and Brenda J. Elliott. (WND Books, $25.95.) The authors reveal President Obama?s ?radical blueprint? for a ?progressive socialist takeover? if he is re-elected. http://www.nytimes.com/best-sellers-books/2012-09-09/hardcover-nonfiction/list.html
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Lying ryan whole rnc speech has just about been refuted . But yet the brain washed bots still cling to the lies they have been taught and taught to repeat. Amazing Dave Weigel, Slate.com: "incredible string of false or misleading statements" http://www.slate.com/... Joan Walsh, Salon.com: "His Republican National Convention speech was stunning for its dishonesty" http://www.salon.com/... Jonathan Cohn, the New Republic: The Most Dishonest Convention Speech ... Ever? http://www.tnr.com/... TPM: Top 5 Fibs In Paul Ryan?s Convention Speech http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/... Michael Tomasky, the Daily Beast: "Paul Ryan pushed American politics into new territory with his convention speech, effectively daring Democrats and the media to call him out on his string of blatant falsehoods" http://www.thedailybeast.com/... Jonathan Bernstein, the Washington Post: Paul Ryan fails -- the truth http://www.washingtonpost.com/... AP: FACT CHECK: Convention speakers stray from reality http://www.google.com/... Dan Amira, NY Magazine: Paul Ryan Bets on the Ignorance of America http://nymag.com/... Fox News contributor, Sally Kohn: ?Ryan?s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech.? Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/... Steve Benen, Maddowblog: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/... Huffington Post: PAUL TALES: RYAN MISLEADS, AGAIN AND AGAIN http://www.huffingtonpost.com/... Politicsusa: 5 Biggest lies in Romney?s speech: http://www.politicususa.com/... Bob Cesca: Paul Ryan?s Speech: Lies, Lies and More Lies http://bobcesca.com/... Washington Post Editorial Board: Mr. Ryan?s misleading speech http://www.washingtonpost.com/... Factcheck.org ?Paul Ryan?s acceptance speech at the Republican convention contained several false claims and misleading statements.? http://factcheck.org/... Andrew Sullivan, the Daily Beast: The lies and lies of Paul Ryan http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/... Ryan Lizza, the New Yorker: The Paul Ryan Speech: Five Hypocrisies http://www.newyorker.com/... Jonathan Chait, NY magazine: Paul Ryan?s large lies and one big truth http://nymag.com/... James Downie, Washington Post: Paul Ryan?s breathtakingly dishonest speech http://www.washingtonpost.com/... James Fallow, Atlantic Paul Ryan and the post truth convention http://www.theatlantic.com/... Robert Schlesinger, US News http://www.usnews.com/... LYIN' Santorum Rick Santorum repeats inaccurate welfare attack on Obama http://www.latimes.com/... Juan Cole: Top Ten Repeated Paul Ryan Lies http://www.juancole.com/... The Guardian: Paul Ryan's speech: a round-up of his most audacious untruths http://www.guardian.co.uk/... Charles Pierce, Esquire: Paul Ryan Is the Newest New Nixon, a Moocher Belied http://www.esquire.com/... Huffington Post Busted! Ryan's speech fools no one http://www.huffingtonpost.com/... David Firestone, NYT Beyond Factual Dishonesty http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/... Josh Barro, Bloomberg Paul Ryan?s Hypocritical Attack on Barack Obama http://www.bloomberg.com/... Lindy West, Jezebel.com Why lying is bad, a primer for confused republicans http://jezebel.com/... Jon Stewart, the Daily Show Jon Stewart Would Settle For Any Truths In Paul Ryan?s Speech http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/... William Saletan, Slate.com Why I?m breaking up with Paul Ryan http://www.slate.com/... John Nichols, CBSnews.com They love the lies Paul Ryan tells http://www.cbsnews.com/... Miles Mogulescu, Huffington Post Paul Ryan: Lying Liar http://www.huffingtonpost.com/... address_b_1843242.html Aviva Shen, Think Progress 6 Worst Lies in Paul Ryan's speech http://thinkprogress.org/... Rekha Basu, Des Moines Register: Half the truth often is a full lie for Paul Ryan http://abetteriowa.desmoinesregister.com/... Ezra Klein, The Washington Post A not-very-truthful speech in a not-very-truthful campaign http://www.washingtonpost.com/... Henry Blodget, Business Insider Paul Ryan's Speech Proves The New Political Truth: It's Fine To Lie http://www.businessinsider.com/... its-fine-to-lie-2012-8#ixzz258ABIMm2 The Week The media coverage of Paul Ryan's speech: 15 euphemisms for 'lying' http://theweek.com/... Alex Seitz-Wald, Salon.com Paul Ryan: The definitive fact-check http://www.salon.com/... Jean Williams, Examiner.com RNC audience thrilled by Paul Ryan's self-serving and deceitful speech http://www.examiner.com/... and-deceitful-speech Andy Borowitz (satirist), NewYorker.com Ryan Launches Campaign Theme of Lying About Everything http://www.newyorker.com/... Charles Blow, nytimes.com The G.O.P. Fact Vacuum http://www.nytimes.com/... looks like lying ryan is pushing back against the lie he told about his running achievements. says he didn't really mean that... it was a lie oh, but he is really santa claus ps...Hello Bill 2:
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looks like the thread really likes my post
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mustangsally10:
Lying ryan whole rnc speech has just about been refuted . But yet the brain washed bots still cling to the lies they have been taught and taught to repeat. Amazing Dave Weigel, Slate.com: "incredible string of false or misleading statements" http://www.slate.com/... Joan Walsh, Salon.com: "His Republican National Convention speech was stunning for its dishonesty" http://www.salon.com/... Jonathan Cohn, the New Republic: The Most Dishonest Convention Speech ... Ever? http://www.tnr.com/... TPM: Top 5 Fibs In Paul Ryan?s Convention Speech http://tpmdc.talkingpointsmemo.com/... Michael Tomasky, the Daily Beast: "Paul Ryan pushed American politics into new territory with his convention speech, effectively daring Democrats and the media to call him out on his string of blatant falsehoods" http://www.thedailybeast.com/... Jonathan Bernstein, the Washington Post: Paul Ryan fails -- the truth http://www.washingtonpost.com/... AP: FACT CHECK: Convention speakers stray from reality http://www.google.com/... Dan Amira, NY Magazine: Paul Ryan Bets on the Ignorance of America http://nymag.com/... Fox News contributor, Sally Kohn: ?Ryan?s speech was an apparent attempt to set the world record for the greatest number of blatant lies and misrepresentations slipped into a single political speech.? Read more: http://www.foxnews.com/... Steve Benen, Maddowblog: Paul Ryan stands on a foundation of lies http://maddowblog.msnbc.com/... Huffington Post: PAUL TALES: RYAN MISLEADS, AGAIN AND AGAIN http://www.huffingtonpost.com/... Politicsusa: 5 Biggest lies in Romney?s speech: http://www.politicususa.com/... Bob Cesca: Paul Ryan?s Speech: Lies, Lies and More Lies http://bobcesca.com/... Washington Post Editorial Board: Mr. Ryan?s misleading speech http://www.washingtonpost.com/... Factcheck.org ?Paul Ryan?s acceptance speech at the Republican convention contained several false claims and misleading statements.? http://factcheck.org/... Andrew Sullivan, the Daily Beast: The lies and lies of Paul Ryan http://andrewsullivan.thedailybeast.com/... Ryan Lizza, the New Yorker: The Paul Ryan Speech: Five Hypocrisies http://www.newyorker.com/... Jonathan Chait, NY magazine: Paul Ryan?s large lies and one big truth http://nymag.com/... James Downie, Washington Post: Paul Ryan?s breathtakingly dishonest speech http://www.washingtonpost.com/... James Fallow, Atlantic Paul Ryan and the post truth convention http://www.theatlantic.com/... Robert Schlesinger, US News http://www.usnews.com/... LYIN' Santorum Rick Santorum repeats inaccurate welfare attack on Obama http://www.latimes.com/... Juan Cole: Top Ten Repeated Paul Ryan Lies http://www.juancole.com/... The Guardian: Paul Ryan's speech: a round-up of his most audacious untruths http://www.guardian.co.uk/... Charles Pierce, Esquire: Paul Ryan Is the Newest New Nixon, a Moocher Belied http://www.esquire.com/... Huffington Post Busted! Ryan's speech fools no one http://www.huffingtonpost.com/... David Firestone, NYT Beyond Factual Dishonesty http://takingnote.blogs.nytimes.com/... Josh Barro, Bloomberg Paul Ryan?s Hypocritical Attack on Barack Obama http://www.bloomberg.com/... Lindy West, Jezebel.com Why lying is bad, a primer for confused republicans http://jezebel.com/... Jon Stewart, the Daily Show Jon Stewart Would Settle For Any Truths In Paul Ryan?s Speech http://2012.talkingpointsmemo.com/... William Saletan, Slate.com Why I?m breaking up with Paul Ryan http://www.slate.com/... John Nichols, CBSnews.com They love the lies Paul Ryan tells http://www.cbsnews.com/... Miles Mogulescu, Huffington Post Paul Ryan: Lying Liar http://www.huffingtonpost.com/... address_b_1843242.html Aviva Shen, Think Progress 6 Worst Lies in Paul Ryan's speech http://thinkprogress.org/... Rekha Basu, Des Moines Register: Half the truth often is a full lie for Paul Ryan http://abetteriowa.desmoinesregister.com/... Ezra Klein, The Washington Post A not-very-truthful speech in a not-very-truthful campaign http://www.washingtonpost.com/... Henry Blodget, Business Insider Paul Ryan's Speech Proves The New Political Truth: It's Fine To Lie http://www.businessinsider.com/... its-fine-to-lie-2012-8#ixzz258ABIMm2 The Week The media coverage of Paul Ryan's speech: 15 euphemisms for 'lying' http://theweek.com/... Alex Seitz-Wald, Salon.com Paul Ryan: The definitive fact-check http://www.salon.com/... Jean Williams, Examiner.com RNC audience thrilled by Paul Ryan's self-serving and deceitful speech http://www.examiner.com/... and-deceitful-speech Andy Borowitz (satirist), NewYorker.com Ryan Launches Campaign Theme of Lying About Everything http://www.newyorker.com/... Charles Blow, nytimes.com The G.O.P. Fact Vacuum http://www.nytimes.com/... looks like lying ryan is pushing back against the lie he told about his running achievements. says he didn't really mean that... it was a lie oh, but he is really santa claus ps...Hello Bill 2:
So what's new the far left libs didn't care for the RNC ... ??? ... Length of post do not necessarily prove valuable content ... especially if it's repetitive ... Shorter posts are usually far more effective to make any point