New Stage Design
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RMartinez:
oobu24:
RMartinez:
oobu24:
I still think he should do like Pink did in this video...shoot him out into the audience.
He's not going to do that. Ever! It would hurt his back! It would hurt MY back just to watch!
Of course he would never do that. I was joking. Although it makes more sense than the platform.
I know you joked, hence my LOL and smiley faces! And yes, it does make more sense. Looking at that photo, Paul should just perform on that extended platform the whole show. But then, why even have it???
It's much ado about nothing on his part. Why spend the money to have a platform he uses for two songs? Seems like a waste. So much else could have been done with that money, like charity, etc.
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cfergoid:
I don't understand the rationale behind the platform at all but I would me more concerned about the extra distance between the stage and the audience than the poor view during 2 songs. Around 4:20 in this video shows the gap in Liverpool 2011, sizeable enough.
I would say that the gap in Liverpool 2011 was very similar to the Out There set-up. What was the reason for the larger than usual space in 2011?
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DrivinFan:
I would say that the gap in Liverpool 2011 was very similar to the Out There set-up. What was the reason for the larger than usual space in 2011?
I'm not sure, I guess to an extent every venue must be slightly different? London 2011 looks about the same too. I suppose with the new stage there will always be a big gap when it's in use.
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I suppose the gap and the platform are less noticeable in huge venues like stadiums, but more obvious in arenas.
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RMartinez:
It looks like three to four rows are lost due to that platform. Really, it just depends on how you approach the situation. Unless you paid a lot for first or second row, does it really matter? Probably not. But if I paid $2000 to be in the front row, to me that would be about five feet from the stage. I would not be happy.
It does matter to me, I saved up for 2 3rd row seats, We didn't know about this gap when we bought our VIP tickets. I could have saved alot of money & bought seats on the side. The reason behind buying premium priced seats up front,is to be closer to the stage ! to be closer to Paul ! His stage design people must know this.... You know Paul knows this !! It's like they designed it to keep his fans away from him
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bentleysmama:
RMartinez:
It looks like three to four rows are lost due to that platform. Really, it just depends on how you approach the situation. Unless you paid a lot for first or second row, does it really matter? Probably not. But if I paid $2000 to be in the front row, to me that would be about five feet from the stage. I would not be happy.
It does matter to me, I saved up for 2 3rd row seats, We didn't know about this gap when we bought our VIP tickets. I could have saved alot of money & bought seats on the side. The reason behind buying premium priced seats up front,is to be closer to the stage ! to be closer to Paul ! His stage design people must know this.... You know Paul knows this !! It's like they designed it to keep his fans away from him
Looks like the first row is about 15 feet from the front of the stage. So you are actually about sixth row, in a normal set up. Still not bad.
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RMartinez:
bentleysmama:
RMartinez:
It looks like three to four rows are lost due to that platform. Really, it just depends on how you approach the situation. Unless you paid a lot for first or second row, does it really matter? Probably not. But if I paid $2000 to be in the front row, to me that would be about five feet from the stage. I would not be happy.
It does matter to me, I saved up for 2 3rd row seats, We didn't know about this gap when we bought our VIP tickets. I could have saved alot of money & bought seats on the side. The reason behind buying premium priced seats up front,is to be closer to the stage ! to be closer to Paul ! His stage design people must know this.... You know Paul knows this !! It's like they designed it to keep his fans away from him
Looks like the first row is about 15 feet from the front of the stage. So you are actually about sixth row, in a normal set up. Still not bad.
I don't have close seats at any show I'll be attending, so it's not a big deal to me per se. However, for those who saved up and spent hundreds more, or bought VIP tickets instead of regular seating...well, I'd be pretty ticked.
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walliebaby:
RMartinez:
bentleysmama:
RMartinez:
It looks like three to four rows are lost due to that platform. Really, it just depends on how you approach the situation. Unless you paid a lot for first or second row, does it really matter? Probably not. But if I paid $2000 to be in the front row, to me that would be about five feet from the stage. I would not be happy.
It does matter to me, I saved up for 2 3rd row seats, We didn't know about this gap when we bought our VIP tickets. I could have saved alot of money & bought seats on the side. The reason behind buying premium priced seats up front,is to be closer to the stage ! to be closer to Paul ! His stage design people must know this.... You know Paul knows this !! It's like they designed it to keep his fans away from him
Looks like the first row is about 15 feet from the front of the stage. So you are actually about sixth row, in a normal set up. Still not bad.
I don't have close seats at any show I'll be attending, so it's not a big deal to me per se. However, for those who saved up and spent hundreds more, or bought VIP tickets instead of regular seating...well, I'd be pretty ticked.
Especially if you paid premium prices to be in the first five rows or so. I guess beyond that doesn't matter much. I'm surprised there have not been complaints, beyond this forum. Again, maybe it just is not a big deal to regular people.
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RMartinez:
I'm surprised there have not been complaints, beyond this forum. Again, maybe it just is not a big deal to regular people.
Well, IMHO, most people going to the shows who have never seen Paul before may not know that they have been "moved back." Also, many people just love "the show" - the more lights, graphics, and stage effects, the better. So a platform raising him up over the crowd is "cool" to a lot of people. I would say (having sat there for Orlando 1) that the front row is *at least* 10 feet from the front of the stage, but it's not equal to 6 rows back at all; more like 2 rows back, maybe 3. I had concerns like everybody else, but now that I've been to 2 shows and seen the platform, I have to figure out how to make the experience work for me, since I have already spent the money and the platform is not going away. When I was in Row 1, I enjoyed the moments when he walked out onto the platform and when he was done with the songs, because he was close. When he was actually on the platform, I couldn't see him at all, so I just listened to the songs and waited for him to come back down. When I was farther back on the floor for Night 2, I looked forward to him being above the audience and looking down at us; it brought back memories of the cherry-picker you mentioned earlier from 1993 and the "Fool on the Hill" rising piano from '89/90.
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Well the tour is just starting,so not everyone knows about this yet. I had to e mail that pic showing the stage gap to 2 people that didn't know about it, they're not seeing Paul till July,so they hadn't seen anything about it.....guess they don't come on here
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thenightfish:
RMartinez:
I'm surprised there have not been complaints, beyond this forum. Again, maybe it just is not a big deal to regular people.
Well, IMHO, most people going to the shows who have never seen Paul before may not know that they have been "moved back." Also, many people just love "the show" - the more lights, graphics, and stage effects, the better. So a platform raising him up over the crowd is "cool" to a lot of people. I would say (having sat there for Orlando 1) that the front row is *at least* 10 feet from the front of the stage, but it's not equal to 6 rows back at all; more like 2 rows back, maybe 3. I had concerns like everybody else, but now that I've been to 2 shows and seen the platform, I have to figure out how to make the experience work for me, since I have already spent the money and the platform is not going away. When I was in Row 1, I enjoyed the moments when he walked out onto the platform and when he was done with the songs, because he was close. When he was actually on the platform, I couldn't see him at all, so I just listened to the songs and waited for him to come back down. When I was farther back on the floor for Night 2, I looked forward to him being above the audience and looking down at us; it brought back memories of the cherry-picker you mentioned earlier from 1993 and the "Fool on the Hill" rising piano from '89/90.
You have the right attitude. You have to make it work. That is what concert experiences are all about. Even without that platform a person may pay top dollar for a floor seat, then have a 6.5 foot tall person stand in front of them. Nothing you can do about that. I've seen it happen.
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RMartinez:
You have the right attitude. You have to make it work. That is what concert experiences are all about. Even without that platform a person may pay top dollar for a floor seat, then have a 6.5 foot tall person stand in front of them. Nothing you can do about that. I've seen it happen.
I've had that happen, yes. And there have been shows in the past where I haven't been able to see Paul well at all when he goes to the grand piano, depending on the placement of my seat, someone tall in front of me, or where Brian decides to stand. Can't move Paul's piano either, you just have to deal with it. I would rather not have the platform there at all, but we are rather stuck with it, I'm afraid.
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RMartinez:
thenightfish:
RMartinez:
I'm surprised there have not been complaints, beyond this forum. Again, maybe it just is not a big deal to regular people.
Well, IMHO, most people going to the shows who have never seen Paul before may not know that they have been "moved back." Also, many people just love "the show" - the more lights, graphics, and stage effects, the better. So a platform raising him up over the crowd is "cool" to a lot of people. I would say (having sat there for Orlando 1) that the front row is *at least* 10 feet from the front of the stage, but it's not equal to 6 rows back at all; more like 2 rows back, maybe 3. I had concerns like everybody else, but now that I've been to 2 shows and seen the platform, I have to figure out how to make the experience work for me, since I have already spent the money and the platform is not going away. When I was in Row 1, I enjoyed the moments when he walked out onto the platform and when he was done with the songs, because he was close. When he was actually on the platform, I couldn't see him at all, so I just listened to the songs and waited for him to come back down. When I was farther back on the floor for Night 2, I looked forward to him being above the audience and looking down at us; it brought back memories of the cherry-picker you mentioned earlier from 1993 and the "Fool on the Hill" rising piano from '89/90.
You have the right attitude. You have to make it work. That is what concert experiences are all about. Even without that platform a person may pay top dollar for a floor seat, then have a 6.5 foot tall person stand in front of them. Nothing you can do about that. I've seen it happen.
You guys are so right. Was 1st row as close as other McCartney concerts, No, it would be better closer without the platform, but it was still a great show. I didn't know about the platform when I bought the seats, but if I did I would have bought them anyway.
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Yep, I know what you're all saying is right. Remember those Cat in the hat hats a few years ago? I was at a concert that a girl 2 rows up had on. Everyone around her was yelling at her,she ignored them all & was having a great time.
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from what I have read on Facebook.. alot of people weren't aware of the gap... they just heard of a platform... lots of disappointed folks.. everyone wants to know how much further back we are than previous tours~ first row isn't first row... apparently from the pics more like 3rd -4th... than this cascades from 2-3rd 4-th etc to be even further sigh~ Phil? is first row NOW.. like being in 2-3-4 or 5.?. for some perspective
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harleyblues:
from what I have read on Facebook.. alot of people weren't aware of the gap... they just heard of a platform... lots of disappointed folks.. everyone wants to know how much further back we are than previous tours~ first row isn't first row... apparently from the pics more like 3rd -4th... than this cascades from 2-3rd 4-th etc to be even further sign~
It's a bit of a surprise, that's for sure. I'm going to suggest again that folks who are upset write to MPL and alert them to this thread so they can see the feedback. The more concerts that happen on this tour, the more feedback, either positive, ambivalent, or negative about the new stage.
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walliebaby:
harleyblues:
from what I have read on Facebook.. alot of people weren't aware of the gap... they just heard of a platform... lots of disappointed folks.. everyone wants to know how much further back we are than previous tours~ first row isn't first row... apparently from the pics more like 3rd -4th... than this cascades from 2-3rd 4-th etc to be even further sign~
It's a bit of a surprise, that's for sure. I'm going to suggest again that folks who are upset write to MPL and alert them to this thread so they can see the feedback. The more concerts that happen on this tour, the more feedback, either positive, ambivalent, or negative about the new stage.
kinda nervous .. ( which I'm usually not ) to write MPL.... if we did will they see this as us being trouble makers is my first thought?
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Fourth row is the new first row!! Hee hee. Hehe he!!
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harleyblues:
walliebaby:
harleyblues:
from what I have read on Facebook.. alot of people weren't aware of the gap... they just heard of a platform... lots of disappointed folks.. everyone wants to know how much further back we are than previous tours~ first row isn't first row... apparently from the pics more like 3rd -4th... than this cascades from 2-3rd 4-th etc to be even further sign~
It's a bit of a surprise, that's for sure. I'm going to suggest again that folks who are upset write to MPL and alert them to this thread so they can see the feedback. The more concerts that happen on this tour, the more feedback, either positive, ambivalent, or negative about the new stage.
kinda nervous .. ( which I'm usually not ) to write MPL.... if we did will they see this as us being trouble makers is my first thought?
I forget who already wrote to them about this, but if you scroll back a page or two, someone did, and MPL's reply was that they'd heard no complaints so far. This may have empowered them to blow off the concern. However, if they saw that it's not an isolated complaint...suddenly they might take it seriously. I don't see them changing the entire stage around for the rest of the tour, mind you, as it's be costly. However, it might help them to decide to scrap it for the next leg of the tour (which will hopefully land in the UK and other parts of the world he's been ignoring lately ).
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RMartinez:
Fourth row is the new first row!! Hee hee. Hehe he!!
dude, that sucks... takes away from the experience .. just my thoughts, right now as Paul, usually interacts with those front rows pretty much .. but if he is so far back.. 1. we won't be having that personal experience~ as before... this really all from the floor seats paying so much money $2000 $1500 $675 etc.. oh my....I don't know... hummm