Predict Next Setlist
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B J Conlee:
audi:
yankeefan7:
audi:
I'm near the end of my bereavement phase, realizing that the show I'd love to see will never, ever happen. It's sad because I bought every single one of this man's solo albums, and so many great songs deserved to be celebrated. But ... it just ain't gonna happen. Seven years of Beatles music is too much for 40+ years of non-Beatles music to beat.
... sometimes I feel like a fool for buying all his solo work because he does not play much of it unless it is the current CD out when he is touring. Plus all those Beatle fans he cares so much about probably have not spent a dime on his recordings in about 40 years...
Amen!
Audi and Yankeefan, I always enjoy your posts over the years and I do understand your feelings about going to a Macca show these days. As a avid attendee of his shows whenever he has come to the Philly/NYC area, I too only wish that his setlist was much more varied hitting his total career (Beatles and solo). I now am living in the central Florida area since my retirement and I have committed to his Jacksonville Show (6/22). I'm taking my older sister who is also a huge Macca fan as a birthday present. The price was steep but let me explain why I decided to go yet another time fully knowing that he will not do any solo songs minus the NEW album tracks. One reason is that I understand (and have accepted) just why the setlist is generally like it is. I used to think that the majority of people are like me...passionate about new music and specifically Paul McCartney. Afterall Paul was an integral part of the greatest musical group of the last 60 years. The fact of the matter is that the overwhelming % of people are not passionate about music. At the same time, Macca is such a universally known brand (for the reason stated above) that they will attend a Macca show because they at least do know the Beatles's songs and it is kind of cool to say you saw an actual Beatle live. In many cases, they attend the show and have such a great time that when Paul comes back to town 5 to 10 years later, they are in many cases, ready to attend again. That is the overwhelming % of attendees at a Paul show. People who know who Paul is as a Beatle founder and a great talent and are willing to spend the money to see him. Unlike the very small % of people like us, they don't know his Solo music. At the height of the Beatles, their music was everywhere because it was a totally simpler time. All these people who aren't passionate about music (the majority) still know their songs anyway because of the times. This is the successful formula that Paul's people follow in tailoring his shows. Give the people the songs that they know and give them a great time. They will come back. I remember attending a Neil Young show back in the 90's. A friend of mine was a huge Neil fan (like I am about Macca) and he invited me. All I had to do was buy the refreshments! It was one of the strangest events I ever attended and I remember it like it was yesterday. Unbeknownst to the audience, Neil came out and proceeded to to his brand new unreleased album, track by track. By about the 7th song, there was such a tension in the air that you could feel it. Basically, his audience came to hear the hits and his known songs and with each song they were getting testier and testier. Many were walking out and shouting profanity. I had never been to a concert like that where so many people were disappointed. Neil was basically forcing his new music on them and they didn't like it. The people who were Neil "nuts" (like I am with Macca) were propably in heaven but that % was very small. For the rest that decided to have patience (and out of respect to Neil" they were at least satisfied at the end when Neil gave them 20 minutes of his hits. They still weren't happy and probably thought they were gipped. Paul would never be a bold as Neil Young based on his personality. He wants to please everyone and as I said above, his marketing people know that the huge majority of attendees want to hear the known hits and songs and that means Beatles. And I can't argue with the kind of success he has enjoyed over the last 25 years. The 3 Macca shows I remember and the enjoyed the most are: *89 flowers in the Dirt Show - I never will forget this one because it was the 1st Macca show I ever attended (unfortunately, I didn't get to the 76 Show). Because I had never seen my hero live, all the songs were totally fresh including all the signature Beatle songs he did. But I have to say I enjoyed the "Flowers" songs just as well. Unlike the huge majority of attendees, I always buy Paul Solo albums as soon as they are available and I love the Flowers songs he did...Put it There, This One, Figure of 8, Brave Face etc. *the 2005 show - Because Paul had a huge gap of touring (Linda's illness), this was another one that I couldn't wait to attend. You could sense the excitement in the air throughout the arena. It had been a long time since the 91 show so again all the songs sounded fresh including the Beatles songs. I remember he opened with Hello Goodbye. *the 2011 show - this was my last show and the reason I enjoyed this one so much was because Paul did a lot of songs I had never heard live before. They included Venus and Mars/Rock Show, 1985, Letting Go, I've Just Seen a Face, Two of Us, And I love Her, I'm Looking Through You etc. If I get 7 or 8 songs that I've never heard live at a show, I will be happy and that is what I hope from the upcoming Jacksonville show. And when I hear the old signature Beatle songs (and I know I will hear them) they will still sound good mainly because I never intentially play them at home or in the car. For the excitement of hearing a Macca song I have never heard live before, I don't care if it is a lesser known Beatle song, Wings' or Solo. I'm hoping for a couple of the early Beatles songs (i.e. I Want to Hold Your Hand, From Me To You and a half dozen "New" tracks and I will be mostly satisfied. If I get less that that, I will probably be like Yankeefan and say that is it relative to attending any more. I'll find out in a little over a month and let you know whether Jacksonville was worth it or not. I appreciate your honesty and candor on this subject.
You make a great case. I was aware that Neil Young had tried that stunt prior to the '90s -- back in the early '70s, he performed Tonight's The Night (still unreleased at the time) in its entirety. I didn't realize that he tried that later in his career, too. He's got some serious hutzpah. I don't expect Paul to pull a move like that -- although he technically did during his Run Devil Run mini-concerts, and the crowd wasn't complaining. In fact, the PeTA concert performance of "Run Devil Run" is one of the best things I've ever seen in his career. Still, Paul could keep plenty of the reliable faves in his show and represent his career more fairly. It bugs me that he'd rather perform "Mr. Kite" than "No More Lonely Nights" or "Take It Away," both top Ten hits. "Mr. Kite" wasn't even a single. Hell, it's not even his song! Granted, he still plays a mean bass on it... Like I said before -- I'm nearly done grieving. Paul lacks the confidence, will and interest to acknowledge his "Flaming Pie" crowd. I can only hope for my other dream: An all-Fireman show at an electronic music festival or something like that.
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beatlesfanrandy:
yankeefan7:
audi:
I'm near the end of my bereavement phase, realizing that the show I'd love to see will never, ever happen. It's sad because I bought every single one of this man's solo albums, and so many great songs deserved to be celebrated. But ... it just ain't gonna happen. Seven years of Beatles music is too much for 40+ years of non-Beatles music to beat.
I feel your pain and that is why I will never go to another McCartney concert.I know I have said it numerous times but sometimes I feel like a fool for buying all his solo work because he does not play much of it unless it is the current CD out when he is touring. Plus all those Beatle fans he cares so much about probably have not spent a dime on his recordings in about 40 years. IMO - I really think he should name his tour "Paul McCartney's Beatle Show" - lol
No, none of us 50 year Beatles fans have bought a thing other than 3-5 million copies since the remasters came out in 2009! Oh, and putting 13 U.S Beatles albums in the charts at one time this year! For you the important thing should be which of his albums you like, not what he plays in concert. So before getting too bitter, which you really sound, don't forget he wrote all those songs he's still singing live. God bless him for that. Both that he wrote them and recorded them with The Beatles, and that he's still singing them for hundreds of thousands of people in 2014. I think it's amazing and you are missing out big time!
Call me crazy but if I am spending over $100 on a ticket, I would like to hear some more of the music I have bought from McCartney that is not 40 yrs old. Read my statement again and answer honestly. Do you think the majority of the audience (Beatle fans) in his shows have ever bought a McCartney solo record? I agree, God bless him for playing and doing something he obviously loves. I just think myself and Audi have regretfully come to the conclusion that we will never hear much of his solo work performed live. I have seen McCartney play live I believe 7 times, first one in 1976. I don't think seeing him now in his 70's with his voice getting worse and I have heard 80% of the songs he is playing now live many times that I am missing anything.
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I never, ever dreamed that the day would come that Paul McCartney would come to my city, and I'd have no desire to buy a ticket.
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B J Conlee:
audi:
yankeefan7:
audi:
I'm near the end of my bereavement phase, realizing that the show I'd love to see will never, ever happen. It's sad because I bought every single one of this man's solo albums, and so many great songs deserved to be celebrated. But ... it just ain't gonna happen. Seven years of Beatles music is too much for 40+ years of non-Beatles music to beat.
... sometimes I feel like a fool for buying all his solo work because he does not play much of it unless it is the current CD out when he is touring. Plus all those Beatle fans he cares so much about probably have not spent a dime on his recordings in about 40 years...
Amen!
Audi and Yankeefan, I always enjoy your posts over the years and I do understand your feelings about going to a Macca show these days. As a avid attendee of his shows whenever he has come to the Philly/NYC area, I too only wish that his setlist was much more varied hitting his total career (Beatles and solo). I now am living in the central Florida area since my retirement and I have committed to his Jacksonville Show (6/22). I'm taking my older sister who is also a huge Macca fan as a birthday present. The price was steep but let me explain why I decided to go yet another time fully knowing that he will not do any solo songs minus the NEW album tracks. One reason is that I understand (and have accepted) just why the setlist is generally like it is. I used to think that the majority of people are like me...passionate about new music and specifically Paul McCartney. Afterall Paul was an integral part of the greatest musical group of the last 60 years. The fact of the matter is that the overwhelming % of people are not passionate about music. At the same time, Macca is such a universally known brand (for the reason stated above) that they will attend a Macca show because they at least do know the Beatles's songs and it is kind of cool to say you saw an actual Beatle live. In many cases, they attend the show and have such a great time that when Paul comes back to town 5 to 10 years later, they are in many cases, ready to attend again. That is the overwhelming % of attendees at a Paul show. People who know who Paul is as a Beatle founder and a great talent and are willing to spend the money to see him. Unlike the very small % of people like us, they don't know his Solo music. At the height of the Beatles, their music was everywhere because it was a totally simpler time. All these people who aren't passionate about music (the majority) still know their songs anyway because of the times. This is the successful formula that Paul's people follow in tailoring his shows. Give the people the songs that they know and give them a great time. They will come back. I remember attending a Neil Young show back in the 90's. A friend of mine was a huge Neil fan (like I am about Macca) and he invited me. All I had to do was buy the refreshments! It was one of the strangest events I ever attended and I remember it like it was yesterday. Unbeknownst to the audience, Neil came out and proceeded to to his brand new unreleased album, track by track. By about the 7th song, there was such a tension in the air that you could feel it. Basically, his audience came to hear the hits and his known songs and with each song they were getting testier and testier. Many were walking out and shouting profanity. I had never been to a concert like that where so many people were disappointed. Neil was basically forcing his new music on them and they didn't like it. The people who were Neil "nuts" (like I am with Macca) were propably in heaven but that % was very small. For the rest that decided to have patience (and out of respect to Neil" they were at least satisfied at the end when Neil gave them 20 minutes of his hits. They still weren't happy and probably thought they were gipped. Paul would never be a bold as Neil Young based on his personality. He wants to please everyone and as I said above, his marketing people know that the huge majority of attendees want to hear the known hits and songs and that means Beatles. And I can't argue with the kind of success he has enjoyed over the last 25 years. The 3 Macca shows I remember and the enjoyed the most are: *89 flowers in the Dirt Show - I never will forget this one because it was the 1st Macca show I ever attended (unfortunately, I didn't get to the 76 Show). Because I had never seen my hero live, all the songs were totally fresh including all the signature Beatle songs he did. But I have to say I enjoyed the "Flowers" songs just as well. Unlike the huge majority of attendees, I always buy Paul Solo albums as soon as they are available and I love the Flowers songs he did...Put it There, This One, Figure of 8, Brave Face etc. *the 2005 show - Because Paul had a huge gap of touring (Linda's illness), this was another one that I couldn't wait to attend. You could sense the excitement in the air throughout the arena. It had been a long time since the 91 show so again all the songs sounded fresh including the Beatles songs. I remember he opened with Hello Goodbye. *the 2011 show - this was my last show and the reason I enjoyed this one so much was because Paul did a lot of songs I had never heard live before. They included Venus and Mars/Rock Show, 1985, Letting Go, I've Just Seen a Face, Two of Us, And I love Her, I'm Looking Through You etc. If I get 7 or 8 songs that I've never heard live at a show, I will be happy and that is what I hope from the upcoming Jacksonville show. And when I hear the old signature Beatle songs (and I know I will hear them) they will still sound good mainly because I never intentially play them at home or in the car. For the excitement of hearing a Macca song I have never heard live before, I don't care if it is a lesser known Beatle song, Wings' or Solo. I'm hoping for a couple of the early Beatles songs (i.e. I Want to Hold Your Hand, From Me To You and a half dozen "New" tracks and I will be mostly satisfied. If I get less that that, I will probably be like Yankeefan and say that is it relative to attending any more. I'll find out in a little over a month and let you know whether Jacksonville was worth it or not. I appreciate your honesty and candor on this subject.
Great post as usual BJ. First, let me applaud Neil Young. I like an artist who says I am not an "oldie" show and I am doing new music that is worth listening to by my fans. As you said, McCartney does not have that type of personality now but there was a time like 1989 that he challenged his audience more by playing 5-6 songs from "Flowers" and he opened show with "Figure Of Eight". When I saw McCartney in 1993 (Charlotte NC) in a concert that was televised, only 16 of the 32 songs played were Beatle songs. McCartney played a bunch of stuff from "Off The Ground" and the crowd enjoyed it. McCartney shows are not cheap and if you get decent seats you are paying well over $100 for one ticket. I just don't feel that hearing 4-5 songs from "New" which I like is worth shelling out that much money. I have heard McCartney do all the major hits numerous times and in better voice than now. I have heard the same old stories he has told about Hendrix, Harrison etc and they have become stale. Finally, I hope you have a great time at show in Jacksonville. I hope everyone who sees him on this tour or any tour in future has a blast. I am just saying that I am finished with seeing McCartney and have wonderful memories of the concerts I attended. A final footnote, I was not going to see him the last time he appeared in Charlotte (2010) but my daughters had never seen him live so I had to go and enjoy this moment with them.
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audi:
B J Conlee:
audi:
yankeefan7:
audi:
I'm near the end of my bereavement phase, realizing that the show I'd love to see will never, ever happen. It's sad because I bought every single one of this man's solo albums, and so many great songs deserved to be celebrated. But ... it just ain't gonna happen. Seven years of Beatles music is too much for 40+ years of non-Beatles music to beat.
... sometimes I feel like a fool for buying all his solo work because he does not play much of it unless it is the current CD out when he is touring. Plus all those Beatle fans he cares so much about probably have not spent a dime on his recordings in about 40 years...
Amen!
Audi and Yankeefan, I always enjoy your posts over the years and I do understand your feelings about going to a Macca show these days. As a avid attendee of his shows whenever he has come to the Philly/NYC area, I too only wish that his setlist was much more varied hitting his total career (Beatles and solo). I now am living in the central Florida area since my retirement and I have committed to his Jacksonville Show (6/22). I'm taking my older sister who is also a huge Macca fan as a birthday present. The price was steep but let me explain why I decided to go yet another time fully knowing that he will not do any solo songs minus the NEW album tracks. One reason is that I understand (and have accepted) just why the setlist is generally like it is. I used to think that the majority of people are like me...passionate about new music and specifically Paul McCartney. Afterall Paul was an integral part of the greatest musical group of the last 60 years. The fact of the matter is that the overwhelming % of people are not passionate about music. At the same time, Macca is such a universally known brand (for the reason stated above) that they will attend a Macca show because they at least do know the Beatles's songs and it is kind of cool to say you saw an actual Beatle live. In many cases, they attend the show and have such a great time that when Paul comes back to town 5 to 10 years later, they are in many cases, ready to attend again. That is the overwhelming % of attendees at a Paul show. People who know who Paul is as a Beatle founder and a great talent and are willing to spend the money to see him. Unlike the very small % of people like us, they don't know his Solo music. At the height of the Beatles, their music was everywhere because it was a totally simpler time. All these people who aren't passionate about music (the majority) still know their songs anyway because of the times. This is the successful formula that Paul's people follow in tailoring his shows. Give the people the songs that they know and give them a great time. They will come back. I remember attending a Neil Young show back in the 90's. A friend of mine was a huge Neil fan (like I am about Macca) and he invited me. All I had to do was buy the refreshments! It was one of the strangest events I ever attended and I remember it like it was yesterday. Unbeknownst to the audience, Neil came out and proceeded to to his brand new unreleased album, track by track. By about the 7th song, there was such a tension in the air that you could feel it. Basically, his audience came to hear the hits and his known songs and with each song they were getting testier and testier. Many were walking out and shouting profanity. I had never been to a concert like that where so many people were disappointed. Neil was basically forcing his new music on them and they didn't like it. The people who were Neil "nuts" (like I am with Macca) were propably in heaven but that % was very small. For the rest that decided to have patience (and out of respect to Neil" they were at least satisfied at the end when Neil gave them 20 minutes of his hits. They still weren't happy and probably thought they were gipped. Paul would never be a bold as Neil Young based on his personality. He wants to please everyone and as I said above, his marketing people know that the huge majority of attendees want to hear the known hits and songs and that means Beatles. And I can't argue with the kind of success he has enjoyed over the last 25 years. The 3 Macca shows I remember and the enjoyed the most are: *89 flowers in the Dirt Show - I never will forget this one because it was the 1st Macca show I ever attended (unfortunately, I didn't get to the 76 Show). Because I had never seen my hero live, all the songs were totally fresh including all the signature Beatle songs he did. But I have to say I enjoyed the "Flowers" songs just as well. Unlike the huge majority of attendees, I always buy Paul Solo albums as soon as they are available and I love the Flowers songs he did...Put it There, This One, Figure of 8, Brave Face etc. *the 2005 show - Because Paul had a huge gap of touring (Linda's illness), this was another one that I couldn't wait to attend. You could sense the excitement in the air throughout the arena. It had been a long time since the 91 show so again all the songs sounded fresh including the Beatles songs. I remember he opened with Hello Goodbye. *the 2011 show - this was my last show and the reason I enjoyed this one so much was because Paul did a lot of songs I had never heard live before. They included Venus and Mars/Rock Show, 1985, Letting Go, I've Just Seen a Face, Two of Us, And I love Her, I'm Looking Through You etc. If I get 7 or 8 songs that I've never heard live at a show, I will be happy and that is what I hope from the upcoming Jacksonville show. And when I hear the old signature Beatle songs (and I know I will hear them) they will still sound good mainly because I never intentially play them at home or in the car. For the excitement of hearing a Macca song I have never heard live before, I don't care if it is a lesser known Beatle song, Wings' or Solo. I'm hoping for a couple of the early Beatles songs (i.e. I Want to Hold Your Hand, From Me To You and a half dozen "New" tracks and I will be mostly satisfied. If I get less that that, I will probably be like Yankeefan and say that is it relative to attending any more. I'll find out in a little over a month and let you know whether Jacksonville was worth it or not. I appreciate your honesty and candor on this subject.
You make a great case. I was aware that Neil Young had tried that stunt prior to the '90s -- back in the early '70s, he performed Tonight's The Night (still unreleased at the time) in its entirety. I didn't realize that he tried that later in his career, too. He's got some serious hutzpah. I don't expect Paul to pull a move like that -- although he technically did during his Run Devil Run mini-concerts, and the crowd wasn't complaining. In fact, the PeTA concert performance of "Run Devil Run" is one of the best things I've ever seen in his career. Still, Paul could keep plenty of the reliable faves in his show and represent his career more fairly. It bugs me that he'd rather perform "Mr. Kite" than "No More Lonely Nights" or "Take It Away," both top Ten hits. "Mr. Kite" wasn't even a single. Hell, it's not even his song! Granted, he still plays a mean bass on it... Like I said before -- I'm nearly done grieving. Paul lacks the confidence, will and interest to acknowledge his "Flaming Pie" crowd. I can only hope for my other dream: An all-Fireman show at an electronic music festival or something like that.
"It bugs me that he'd rather perform "Mr. Kite" than "No More Lonely Nights" or "Take It Away," both top Ten hits. "Mr. Kite" wasn't even a single. Hell, it's not even his song! Granted, he still plays a mean bass on it..." Exactly and I had to just SMH when I saw "All Together Now" on the setlist. - lol "I don't expect Paul to pull a move like that -- although he technically did during his Run Devil Run mini-concerts, and the crowd wasn't complaining. In fact, the PeTA concert performance of "Run Devil Run" is one of the best things I've ever seen in his career. " McCartney's vocal on songs like "Brown Eyed Handsome Man" are fantastic. Matter of fact, nobody does 50's covers better than McCartney IMO.
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People are dreaming of a solo setlist. Check this out:
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oobu24:
People are dreaming of a solo setlist. Check this out:
who is this? Audi?Indeed! Working on a complete compilation this afternoon!
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Looks great!
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oobu24:
People are dreaming of a solo setlist. Check this out:
who is this? Audi?Great idea.
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That's just a sampler. The full show is going to be a compilation tailor-made for us.
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audi:
That's just a sampler. The full show is going to be a compilation tailor-made for us.
Keep us updated with new additions, should be some show - lol !!!
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yankeefan7:
audi:
That's just a sampler. The full show is going to be a compilation tailor-made for us.
Keep us updated with new additions, should be some show - lol !!!
I found it on a diff site. Is that you?
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I've got a staggering 41 songs selected. Now on to the editing...
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I have read that during the mtv unplugged rehearsals Paul have play many songs, in the list also "It won't be long"!!! "she's my baby" "heart of the country" and "rocky raccoon"! Would be great to hear this songs in the next gigs!
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yankeefan7:
audi:
That's just a sampler. The full show is going to be a compilation tailor-made for us.
Keep us updated with new additions, should be some show - lol !!!
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Get a bottle of wine n' enjoy.
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Oh yeah! "We're gonna have some fun tonight" Can't wait to give it a run through THANK YOU!
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Very nice list, but I think the ending (like the last 10 songs or so) is extremely anti-climatic. The show doesn't have much flow, you could run the numbers in the exact opposite order and have the same effect.
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I was thinking of you Wix when I read the setlist.
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oobu24:
I was thinking of you Wix when I read the setlist.
It just needs a little more POW at the end!