Paul McCartney 2015 Rumors
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crazygina18:
nobodytoldme:
Still can't really wrap my head around the size of those rumoured dates. Stadiums?! Will be hard to get used to not being simply somewhere at the front, few meters away from McCartney. Especially with that big unnecessary gap, on top of the already unusual big gap in between the stage and the barrier, you wonder what getting there early to get to the front still means. And damn, especially in June, it won't be dark until 'Golden Slumbers', really a mood killer. Guess we got lucky with the usual arenas spread across the countries in 2009-2012.
Yeah, a few years back when I saw him in Cincinnati, it was daylight till around Long and Winding Road, if memory serves me correctly. Not a fan of the stadium gigs anymore. Hard to get close, yet you still pay the premium if you want on the field. I'll take an arena over stadium, any day. But here's the thing... From a business perspective, stadiums sell more tickets, and 1 show covers the market demand in the city. While I'm sure there is a longer setup time for the massive outdoor stage, there are much more tickets being sold in the premium range than even 2 nights in an arena. Plus it's 1 night of voice usage vs. two. I predict more stadium shows this summer, much to my dismay.
Yes, it's all about the money, that's obvious. The only non-arena/venue gig I saw by him, June in Central Europe as well, 2010, it wasn't fully dark until 'Live And Let Die', just in time for the inevitable pyro. Can't remember much of the gig as well, very underwhelming because of the situation and atmosphere. McCartney gave it all, as always, mind. Saw Eminem in Stade De France in August 2013. Same situation. You won't get me back into a stadium of that proportion for a concert ever again. And trust me, I do week long festivals, many gigs a month of all proportions, that's not it, but those places like Stade De France just aren't build for a music experience. I'm also surprised because in Europe 75 euro gigs just doesn't sell that quick, and now since 2013 he topped it up with up to 4 times his usual capacity venues, and probably the double in admission price. Curious to see how this will go.
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MaccaMeri:
If Paris is going to happen, I wish it would be announced soon. I don't really want to go all the way to Paris and book a hotel, but the only advantage is that I think I can navigate around if I have to. What I'd like to know is- why this venue has been rumoured both this year and last year when obviously last year never happened?
If memory serves, both Quebec City (first time) and Halifax were scouted an entire year in advance too. This often happens; if the venue is suitable the negotiations begin and the show could take up to a year to happen. No stadium is built for music experience, but plenty of artists play them including Paul. For that matter most arena's aren't built for musical experiences either!
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RockyRaccoon68:
Paul probably couldn't sell out one of those venues in France never mind both.
I'm never going to be able to say I know enough about Paul, so I have to ask why? AC/DC sells out in France but Paul won't?
: Thursday night show, that's it, I'm gonna get fired!
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serpico71:
France. Serious rumors of the first two concerts of European mini-tour of Paul. http://www.lastfm.es/music/Paul+McCartney/+events 1- june 5 2015 Stade Velodrome, Marseille. 2- june 11 2015. Stade de France. Saint denis. Paris.
I hope the concerts will happen, for the sake of our European friends. However, the above link is just using the info that had been mentioned elsewhere. Besides, it lists Paul's concert at Firefly as being on June 18, when the actual date is June 19.
RockyRaccoon68:
Paul probably couldn't sell out one of those venues in France never mind both.
I bet people from all over Europe will buy tickets, so it should not be hard to sell out two (or more) concerts.
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nobodytoldme:
crazygina18:
nobodytoldme:
Still can't really wrap my head around the size of those rumoured dates. Stadiums?! Will be hard to get used to not being simply somewhere at the front, few meters away from McCartney. Especially with that big unnecessary gap, on top of the already unusual big gap in between the stage and the barrier, you wonder what getting there early to get to the front still means. And damn, especially in June, it won't be dark until 'Golden Slumbers', really a mood killer. Guess we got lucky with the usual arenas spread across the countries in 2009-2012.
Yeah, a few years back when I saw him in Cincinnati, it was daylight till around Long and Winding Road, if memory serves me correctly. Not a fan of the stadium gigs anymore. Hard to get close, yet you still pay the premium if you want on the field. I'll take an arena over stadium, any day. But here's the thing... From a business perspective, stadiums sell more tickets, and 1 show covers the market demand in the city. While I'm sure there is a longer setup time for the massive outdoor stage, there are much more tickets being sold in the premium range than even 2 nights in an arena. Plus it's 1 night of voice usage vs. two. I predict more stadium shows this summer, much to my dismay.
Yes, it's all about the money, that's obvious. The only non-arena/venue gig I saw by him, June in Central Europe as well, 2010, it wasn't fully dark until 'Live And Let Die', just in time for the inevitable pyro. Can't remember much of the gig as well, very underwhelming because of the situation and atmosphere. McCartney gave it all, as always, mind. Saw Eminem in Stade De France in August 2013. Same situation. You won't get me back into a stadium of that proportion for a concert ever again. And trust me, I do week long festivals, many gigs a month of all proportions, that's not it, but those places like Stade De France just aren't build for a music experience. I'm also surprised because in Europe 75 euro gigs just doesn't sell that quick, and now since 2013 he topped it up with up to 4 times his usual capacity venues, and probably the double in admission price. Curious to see how this will go.
The atmosphere at that 2010 Dublin gig was rubbish because of the lighting. Even when it started to get dark for Live and Let Die it wasn't pitch black, it took until the encore for it to get properly dark. Those French stadiums are massive. Stade Velodrome holds around 60,000 people for a sporting event and Stade de France holds 80,000. That would be very very ambitious.
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McCartney's 2004 St. Petersburg set proved that the man does not need night-time to rock a crowd.
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RockyRaccoon68:
Those French stadiums are massive. Stade Velodrome holds around 60,000 people for a sporting event and Stade de France holds 80,000. That would be very very ambitious.
How many tickets would likely be put on sale for a McCartney concert at those stadiums? Would they probably be general audience or numbered seats on the field?
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RockyRaccoon68:
The atmosphere at that 2010 Dublin gig was rubbish because of the lighting. Even when it started to get dark for Live and Let Die it wasn't pitch black, it took until the encore for it to get properly dark.
Yeah i thought that would be the case at dublin and glasgow, but we booked for just Cardiff that year, and even though it was a huge stadium - they shut the roof about half an hour before Paul came on stage! (It is one of the rare ones - a huge 70,000 stadium that has a sliding roof!) So in other words, once that roof shut it was like watching a normal dark Paul gig - but in a huge place
Saw him outdoors in 2003 and 2008 in liverpool though, and to be honest it didn't alter my enjoyment - in fact if anything it was fun to see Paul play in daylight for a change.
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I saw Paul in Boulder in 1993 and there was a curfew issue, or some noise ordinance, so he started when it was still light out. Was weird watching the opening film that way! An hour in it was ok, but strange to start a show like that. A month earlier in Las Cruces, NM was better, as he was able to start after the sun went down.
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Can we speculate about the midwest? Odds of Paul playing Chicago this year? Last year was one night only at the United Center. He usually does 2 nights, some years 4. Before last year, he did 2 nights at Wrigley in 2011. Before that Chicago hadn't seen Paul since 2005. Wisconsin got Paul at Miller Park in 2013. One night. Maybe Paul could play in Madison at either the Kohl Center, or the 80,000 stadium. Or maybe the rumoured gig in Green Bay's football stadium- rumored to be Garth Brooks or Paul. What about Indianapolis? St. Louis? Detroit hasn't seen Paul since 2011...
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RockyRaccoon68:
nobodytoldme:
crazygina18:
nobodytoldme:
Still can't really wrap my head around the size of those rumoured dates. Stadiums?! Will be hard to get used to not being simply somewhere at the front, few meters away from McCartney. Especially with that big unnecessary gap, on top of the already unusual big gap in between the stage and the barrier, you wonder what getting there early to get to the front still means. And damn, especially in June, it won't be dark until 'Golden Slumbers', really a mood killer. Guess we got lucky with the usual arenas spread across the countries in 2009-2012.
Yeah, a few years back when I saw him in Cincinnati, it was daylight till around Long and Winding Road, if memory serves me correctly. Not a fan of the stadium gigs anymore. Hard to get close, yet you still pay the premium if you want on the field. I'll take an arena over stadium, any day. But here's the thing... From a business perspective, stadiums sell more tickets, and 1 show covers the market demand in the city. While I'm sure there is a longer setup time for the massive outdoor stage, there are much more tickets being sold in the premium range than even 2 nights in an arena. Plus it's 1 night of voice usage vs. two. I predict more stadium shows this summer, much to my dismay.
Yes, it's all about the money, that's obvious. The only non-arena/venue gig I saw by him, June in Central Europe as well, 2010, it wasn't fully dark until 'Live And Let Die', just in time for the inevitable pyro. Can't remember much of the gig as well, very underwhelming because of the situation and atmosphere. McCartney gave it all, as always, mind. Saw Eminem in Stade De France in August 2013. Same situation. You won't get me back into a stadium of that proportion for a concert ever again. And trust me, I do week long festivals, many gigs a month of all proportions, that's not it, but those places like Stade De France just aren't build for a music experience. I'm also surprised because in Europe 75 euro gigs just doesn't sell that quick, and now since 2013 he topped it up with up to 4 times his usual capacity venues, and probably the double in admission price. Curious to see how this will go.
The atmosphere at that 2010 Dublin gig was rubbish because of the lighting. Even when it started to get dark for Live and Let Die it wasn't pitch black, it took until the encore for it to get properly dark. Those French stadiums are massive. Stade Velodrome holds around 60,000 people for a sporting event and Stade de France holds 80,000. That would be very very ambitious.
Yes, see! I was first about to type 'Band On The Run', from which I remember finally noticing a bit of light (the "wall"), but then I was pretty sure even for 'Live And Let Die' it wasn't as dark as it should be. That's a big downside about open-air festivals with a curfew as early as 23:00 in the summer, for Best Kept Secret for example in late June over here, only the very last act plays the last song of the encore in the dark.
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But with these french rumours coming from nowhere - does that mean we *may* be getting a stadium tour in the UK in June? (I'd rather have arenas but hey i'd take anything right now!)
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Eeee Cor Blimey:
But with these french rumours coming from nowhere - does that mean we *may* be getting a stadium tour in the UK in June? (I'd rather have arenas but hey i'd take anything right now!)
Let's hope so. I believe his last UK concert was in 2012, right?
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5th-beatle:
RockyRaccoon68:
Those French stadiums are massive. Stade Velodrome holds around 60,000 people for a sporting event and Stade de France holds 80,000. That would be very very ambitious.
How many tickets would likely be put on sale for a McCartney concert at those stadiums? Would they probably be general audience or numbered seats on the field?
How many tickets? Probably whatever the capacity is for a match + whatever they can fit on the pitch/field. In the US the stadium concerts have been assigned seats on the pitch/field. I think in South America it's "festival seating" meaning there are no seats, standing room, at least for the area in front of the stage. Can some of our SA fans confirm? I think it varies country by country, state by state, depending on what the laws are for that kind of event in a stadium.
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gnome:
5th-beatle:
RockyRaccoon68:
Those French stadiums are massive. Stade Velodrome holds around 60,000 people for a sporting event and Stade de France holds 80,000. That would be very very ambitious.
How many tickets would likely be put on sale for a McCartney concert at those stadiums? Would they probably be general audience or numbered seats on the field?
How many tickets? Probably whatever the capacity is for a match + whatever they can fit on the pitch/field. In the US the stadium concerts have been assigned seats on the pitch/field. I think in South America it's "festival seating" meaning there are no seats, standing room, at least for the area in front of the stage. Can some of our SA fans confirm? I think it varies country by country, state by state, depending on what the laws are for that kind of event in a stadium.
Ed Sheeran has sold out Wembley for three straight, 80,000 capacity dates. I understand Ed Sheeran is a popular young chap at the moment, but surely if he can do that Paul can sell out at least one Wembley stadium.
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gnome:
I think in South America it's "festival seating" meaning there are no seats, standing room, at least for the area in front of the stage. Can some of our SA fans confirm?
There are no seats in Brazil at the soccer stadium fields, but most other South American countries do have numbered seats on over half of that area. Here in Brazil not all of the the fixed seats around the field are offered during a concert, as the stage blocks the view of at least 20-25% of those. The promoters usually offer 70-80% of those seats, plus whatever number of people can be placed standing in the field, which I suppose would be any number between 15,000 to 25,000 tickets. What is it like in the UK?
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5th-beatle:
gnome:
I think in South America it's "festival seating" meaning there are no seats, standing room, at least for the area in front of the stage. Can some of our SA fans confirm?
There are no seats in Brazil at the soccer stadium fields, but most other South American countries do have numbered seats on over half of that area. Here in Brazil not all of the the fixed seats around the field are offered during a concert, as the stage blocks the view of at least 20-25% of those. The promoters usually offer 70-80% of those seats, plus whatever number of people can be placed standing in the field, which I suppose would be any number between 15,000 to 25,000 tickets. What is it like in the UK?
It varies, usually 70-80% of the fixed seating since the stage clocks the view of a large number. The field is either standing or sitting. Paul's show at Anfield in '08 was standing, Hampden and Millennium Stadium in '10 were seated and RDS in '10 was half seated, half standing.
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RockyRaccoon68:
5th-beatle:
gnome:
I think in South America it's "festival seating" meaning there are no seats, standing room, at least for the area in front of the stage. Can some of our SA fans confirm?
There are no seats in Brazil at the soccer stadium fields, but most other South American countries do have numbered seats on over half of that area. Here in Brazil not all of the the fixed seats around the field are offered during a concert, as the stage blocks the view of at least 20-25% of those. The promoters usually offer 70-80% of those seats, plus whatever number of people can be placed standing in the field, which I suppose would be any number between 15,000 to 25,000 tickets. What is it like in the UK?
It varies, usually 70-80% of the fixed seating since the stage clocks the view of a large number. The field is either standing or sitting. Paul's show at Anfield in '08 was standing, Hampden and Millennium Stadium in '10 were seated and RDS in '10 was half seated, half standing.
They also have a tendency to do rows of floor seating with front and back viewing(barriers or walkways will split them). I think some people might like a side view of fixed seating on an upper level closer to the stage than miles back where they still need to look at screens. It depends on the size of the space but even with floor seating everyone will stand, just less tickets can be sold for that room(than GA). I don't think it's that much different in America. I was going to bring up "In the round stages" but I think most people are aware of that set up and the fact they have stopped doing it around the world years ago when it was "popular". Madison Square Garden did sell obstructed view tickets for Paul back in 2002 and those were behind the stage seating.
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5th-beatle:
Eeee Cor Blimey:
But with these french rumours coming from nowhere - does that mean we *may* be getting a stadium tour in the UK in June? (I'd rather have arenas but hey i'd take anything right now!)
Let's hope so. I believe his last UK concert was in 2012, right?
Yeah he did a one off charity show 3 years ago this month, at the royal albert hall which held only about 4000. (Luckily i was there, thanks to that short lived pmc membership thing the presale actually gave a chance and i had front row for actual normal face value!!) His last "proper" shows (ie 20,000 seaters!) were December 2011.
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Who is Ed Sheeran? I couldn't pick him out of a room full of busboys.