Los Angeles / Phoenix / San Francsico - Pre-Sales
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I wonder if some people are thinking SF might be Paul's last ever show. I doubt that's the case, but that could account for part of the premium on that show. Of course, since it's the last event at 'the Stick,' that could also play into the situation.
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paulfan11:
Bruce M.:
Lots of tickets are in the hands of scalpers. Forbes magazine has an online article saying: "The average price for Paul McCartney tickets in San Francisco is currently $892 on the secondary market. That price is 156.6% above the $347.60 average across the 16 scheduled stops on the Out There! tour." http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrence/2014/05/01/candelstick-park-show-on-paul-mccartneys-out-there-tour-is-most-expensive-concert-this-summer/
Darn these scalpers! And you just know there will be some people that will pay these badly inflated prices even for nosebleed seats.
That's just a lot of hype. The key words there are "secondary market". The regular priced tickets aren't even sold out yet!
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beatlesfanrandy:
paulfan11:
Bruce M.:
Lots of tickets are in the hands of scalpers. Forbes magazine has an online article saying: "The average price for Paul McCartney tickets in San Francisco is currently $892 on the secondary market. That price is 156.6% above the $347.60 average across the 16 scheduled stops on the Out There! tour." http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrence/2014/05/01/candelstick-park-show-on-paul-mccartneys-out-there-tour-is-most-expensive-concert-this-summer/
Darn these scalpers! And you just know there will be some people that will pay these badly inflated prices even for nosebleed seats.
That's just a lot of hype. The key words there are "secondary market". The regular priced tickets aren't even sold out yet!
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Well there is still the general sale on Monday so it's not sold out quite yet, but I can't even pull up a single ticket at any price level for S.F. with the current pre-sale... Amex not sure since I don't have the password to look for that.
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paulfan11:
beatlesfanrandy:
paulfan11:
Bruce M.:
Lots of tickets are in the hands of scalpers. Forbes magazine has an online article saying: "The average price for Paul McCartney tickets in San Francisco is currently $892 on the secondary market. That price is 156.6% above the $347.60 average across the 16 scheduled stops on the Out There! tour." http://www.forbes.com/sites/jesselawrence/2014/05/01/candelstick-park-show-on-paul-mccartneys-out-there-tour-is-most-expensive-concert-this-summer/
Darn these scalpers! And you just know there will be some people that will pay these badly inflated prices even for nosebleed seats.
That's just a lot of hype. The key words there are "secondary market". The regular priced tickets aren't even sold out yet!
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Well there is still the general sale on Monday so it's not sold out quite yet, but I can't even pull up a single ticket at any price level for S.F. with the current pre-sale... Amex not sure since I don't have the password to look for that.
No one's saying the event is sold out, simply that scalpers grabbed up big hunks of the presale seats and are gouging for them. The Amex presale is just as bad -- my friend reported only single seats available -- no pairs of 2 together, much less any more than that -- and only crappy ones at that. My guess is that the scalpers overdid it and the "secondary market" prices may well come down after a while.
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Publicity for the scalpers only helps the scalpers, and may mislead people to thinking it's the only way to get tickets. It also may keep people from even trying the General Sale, which will also help the scalpers. Articles like that only aid and abet the scalpers, not the ticket buying public.
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I have never seen so many presales for a show. It is like the presale for the 2nd presale of the 3rd presale before they have the final presale of the general sale. What is the point of all this except for a lot of extra hands getting in the pie? There was golden voice, KLOS, the Dodgers, Crowd Source, AMEx and Paul's own site and probably some I missed. What I really would love to see is that all seats in the first fifty rows are set aside for fans , who would have to take a two hour music and written exam about Paul just to qualify for one of those seats, thereby shutting out hangers on, famous people and others who get prime seats because they know someone or just have a lot of money. All of us would then get to enjoy being close to Paul!
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bunwhisper:
I have never seen so many presales for a show. It is like the presale for the 2nd presale of the 3rd presale before they have the final presale of the general sale. What is the point of all this except for a lot of extra hands getting in the pie? There was golden voice, KLOS, the Dodgers, Crowd Source, AMEx and Paul's own site and probably some I missed. What I really would love to see is that all seats in the first fifty rows are set aside for fans , who would have to take a two hour music and written exam about Paul just to qualify for one of those seats, thereby shutting out hangers on, famous people and others who get prime seats because they know someone or just have a lot of money. All of us would then get to enjoy being close to Paul!
Wow. I agree with all of this.
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bunwhisper:
I have never seen so many presales for a show. It is like the presale for the 2nd presale of the 3rd presale before they have the final presale of the general sale. What is the point of all this except for a lot of extra hands getting in the pie? There was golden voice, KLOS, the Dodgers, Crowd Source, AMEx and Paul's own site and probably some I missed. What I really would love to see is that all seats in the first fifty rows are set aside for fans , who would have to take a two hour music and written exam about Paul just to qualify for one of those seats, thereby shutting out hangers on, famous people and others who get prime seats because they know someone or just have a lot of money. All of us would then get to enjoy being close to Paul!
I agree with the 50 rows being set aside for fans but a two hour exam about Paul?
hope that was just in jest.
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I'm curious about how they allocate VIP package seats. I bought the Silver VIP package with four seats in Section N, Row 2. I've been noticing that people were finding seats in Sections D and E (in the further back rows though) for the $250 price. I'm wondering how I was not able to get a VIP package that was closer, especially since I paid almost double during the presale. I'm not complaining, I'm sure my seats are fine but it's so confusing how it's so random with what you get. I was curious today about the general sale and went to find four VIP seats in Section E, Row 28. I didn't buy them but I saw them offered (if only briefly). After that, they were gone and there was nothing available for Silver VIP. I also looked for general tix and saw Sections A and K available at around $165-250.
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paulfan11:
bunwhisper:
I have never seen so many presales for a show. It is like the presale for the 2nd presale of the 3rd presale before they have the final presale of the general sale. What is the point of all this except for a lot of extra hands getting in the pie? There was golden voice, KLOS, the Dodgers, Crowd Source, AMEx and Paul's own site and probably some I missed. What I really would love to see is that all seats in the first fifty rows are set aside for fans , who would have to take a two hour music and written exam about Paul just to qualify for one of those seats, thereby shutting out hangers on, famous people and others who get prime seats because they know someone or just have a lot of money. All of us would then get to enjoy being close to Paul!
I agree with the 50 rows being set aside for fans but a two hour exam about Paul?
hope that was just in jest.
Sort of
I think there should be some way for REAL FANS to prove that they belong in those seats, not the fat arses of people who just want to be seen. Be it old Fun Club membership, or length of time on this board or something... it just makes me sick when I see primo seats with people in them who dont really care about Paul. I miss the days of getting tickets through Fun Club. They were decent seats and because you actually had to pay to belong to the club, you were pretty much guaranteed to be a Paul fan. I had hoped that the Premium Membership that I had paid for on this site (grrr) would be like that, but we all know how that worked out.
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kimmouse:
I'm curious about how they allocate VIP package seats. I bought the Silver VIP package with four seats in Section N, Row 2. I've been noticing that people were finding seats in Sections D and E (in the further back rows though) for the $250 price. I'm wondering how I was not able to get a VIP package that was closer, especially since I paid almost double during the presale. I'm not complaining, I'm sure my seats are fine but it's so confusing how it's so random with what you get. I was curious today about the general sale and went to find four VIP seats in Section E, Row 28. I didn't buy them but I saw them offered (if only briefly). After that, they were gone and there was nothing available for Silver VIP. I also looked for general tix and saw Sections A and K available at around $165-250.
Yes, that seems like a rip off, frankly. I got section A Row 12 for $165. That sounds a lot better than section N and you paid a lot more. I am probably off to the side of the stage a little, but still close. The whole ticket thing is such a scam, we will never understand how it all works because the sellers dont want us to. The whole desperation thing they create--the site being overloaded, the expensive packages, the way you have to make a decision in two seconds to buy the tickets--all of that works to inflate prices and create demand. It is the most consumer unfriendly thing ever, but we all do it because there is no choice. Ugh.
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bunwhisper:
Yes, that seems like a rip off, frankly. I got section A Row 12 for $165. That sounds a lot better than section N and you paid a lot more. I am probably off to the side of the stage a little, but still close. The whole ticket thing is such a scam, we will never understand how it all works because the sellers dont want us to. The whole desperation thing they create--the site being overloaded, the expensive packages, the way you have to make a decision in two seconds to buy the tickets--all of that works to inflate prices and create demand. It is the most consumer unfriendly thing ever, but we all do it because there is no choice. Ugh.
I agree. That desperation thing is ridiculous. There I was thinking that was the best available on the first day of presale! Oh well. I'm hoping that being in Sec. N and being in Row 2 will help my vantage point as I'm quite short and having rows of tall people in front of me will probably hinder my viewing. I'm still happy to go and have floor seats at least!
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bunwhisper:
paulfan11:
bunwhisper:
I have never seen so many presales for a show. It is like the presale for the 2nd presale of the 3rd presale before they have the final presale of the general sale. What is the point of all this except for a lot of extra hands getting in the pie? There was golden voice, KLOS, the Dodgers, Crowd Source, AMEx and Paul's own site and probably some I missed. What I really would love to see is that all seats in the first fifty rows are set aside for fans , who would have to take a two hour music and written exam about Paul just to qualify for one of those seats, thereby shutting out hangers on, famous people and others who get prime seats because they know someone or just have a lot of money. All of us would then get to enjoy being close to Paul!
I agree with the 50 rows being set aside for fans but a two hour exam about Paul?
hope that was just in jest.
Sort of
I think there should be some way for REAL FANS to prove that they belong in those seats, not the fat arses of people who just want to be seen. Be it old Fun Club membership, or length of time on this board or something... it just makes me sick when I see primo seats with people in them who dont really care about Paul. I miss the days of getting tickets through Fun Club. They were decent seats and because you actually had to pay to belong to the club, you were pretty much guaranteed to be a Paul fan. I had hoped that the Premium Membership that I had paid for on this site (grrr) would be like that, but we all know how that worked out.
Oh I agree. It's so frustrating to see how many tickets for SF have ended up in scalpers hands.
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kimmouse:
I'm curious about how they allocate VIP package seats. I bought the Silver VIP package with four seats in Section N, Row 2. I've been noticing that people were finding seats in Sections D and E (in the further back rows though) for the $250 price. I'm wondering how I was not able to get a VIP package that was closer, especially since I paid almost double during the presale. I'm not complaining, I'm sure my seats are fine but it's so confusing how it's so random with what you get. I was curious today about the general sale and went to find four VIP seats in Section E, Row 28. I didn't buy them but I saw them offered (if only briefly). After that, they were gone and there was nothing available for Silver VIP. I also looked for general tix and saw Sections A and K available at around $165-250.
The silver VIP seats seemed all sorts of a mess for SF. I tried for silver first last week during the pre-sale and it was giving me all the way across the field from the stage. I gave up tried for the 250 tickets and got two in row 24 towards the center. About 60 rows closer than what they were trying to give me with silver.
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Looks like the concert is sold out!