"Out There" 2013 Setlist Critique and Suggestions
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I also think that we need to know how much input Paul had in that song, but I agree it is more of a John song and ..I welcome it would I rather hear Uncle Albert or mull of kyntire sure I would...
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OK... 12 years being a member of this forum- I still find it disheartening.. ppl ganging up on others.. I personally know, some members, on this forum.. some great lovely ppl... it seems like some, like to talk a bunch of smack.. to provoke or in site fights~ ridiculous.. as always.. I bet half the crap ppl say on this board - they wouldn't say to someones face... get real...shouldn't we all be grateful Paul McCartney is still touring? If you're so upset about Macca's set list don't go simple as that ... Paul McCartney, can and does play what he wants.. sorry, if you are so gutted by what he performs.. sad for you...be fortunate you have the $$$ to see him at all...cos he could not tour than what? also, I read, no where, where racism was interjected.. in this thread ..Without emotion or actually hearing someones voice .. things could be misinterpreted... on the net, no matter where you post... folks get tired of reading all the negativity about Paul on this board his official webby . of course people have opinions but when those negatives out weigh the positives- on a chronic basis... it becomes a drag... Now- how bout some sax for Listen To What The Man Says...
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Paul has paid more-than-sufficient homage to the legacy of songs that made him a legend. And they have all been equally, sufficiently documented in concert-videos and live-albums. Count 'em. What I'm saying is that folks like me, who have made his '80s/'90s/2K albums Gold and Platinum, deserve a show for us. After nearly 25 years of "naaah-na-na-nana-nah-nahhhhhh" concert-experiences, this is not an unreasonable request.
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Paul knows who is going to his show. While you may want to only hear Paul's solo stuff, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of folks actually going to the concert would not. The number who would I'm guessing is an extremely small amount. Remember, when you're on this board, you're hearing a very different opinion than what the general public thinks. Most people have never gone to a Paul McCartney show, while people here have gone 5+ times.
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Benf207:
Paul knows who is going to his show. While you may want to only hear Paul's solo stuff, I'm willing to bet that the vast majority of folks actually going to the concert would not...
"...only solo stuff..."? Only? I didn't say that.
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Alright, disregard the "only" part then, the point still stands.
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If Bruce Springsteen can build an entire tour on The Ghost Of Thom Joad, then, surely, Paul can build a tour around his solo work.
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Man I am so excited and happy Paul has made some great additions to the setlist. Watch a video of him doing Hope Of Deliverance, he does this swaying dance and he just looks so happy. Thanks for sharing some more of your babies with us Paul and never stop rockin!
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audi:
If Bruce Springsteen can build an entire tour on The Ghost Of Thom Joad, then, surely, Paul can build a tour around his solo work.
Example of how this could go poorly...I saw Rush last night as you know, the first half of the show was just songs from 1982-2007. I only knew three of the ten songs and it was weird. It sounded SUPERB but I lost a little bit of the connection because of that. Then, after their intermision they played their new album nearly in full....appox. anhour of songs nearly no one knew. The crowd was in and out of he arena, up and down, fidgetyand few sang along. Again, it sounded sesational but they pushed the audience away. I don' think it was smart t sit there and belt out 10 consecutive songs from a brand new album. Then, they ripped through four hts from the 70's and went home.
My point is: you need more than "your four hits from the 70'" to entertain an arena of fans.
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Cool! right on! have fun....
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C'mon, dude. It's Rush. They are nowhere NEAR the level of McCartney. Still, I agree that ten brand-new songs in a row is too much.
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1989: Paul McCartney - "Hey Jude/Yesterday/Get Back":
1993: Paul McCartney - Let It Be (live @ Charlotte 1993) 1997: Paul McCartney - Yesterday (live, 1997) 2002: Paul McCartney - Hello/Goodbye (live): and so on for the next ten years.... -
That's great! Paul is giving all the newcomers (again, probably the majority at each show) a chance to see their favorites performed.
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WixRocks!:
audi:
If Bruce Springsteen can build an entire tour on The Ghost Of Thom Joad, then, surely, Paul can build a tour around his solo work.
Example of how this could go poorly...I saw Rush last night as you know, the first half of the show was just songs from 1982-2007. I only knew three of the ten songs and it was weird. It sounded SUPERB but I lost a little bit of the connection because of that. Then, after their intermision they played their new album nearly in full....appox. anhour of songs nearly no one knew. The crowd was in and out of he arena, up and down, fidgetyand few sang along. Again, it sounded sesational but they pushed the audience away. I don' think it was smart t sit there and belt out 10 consecutive songs from a brand new album. Then, they ripped through four hts from the 70's and went home.
My point is: you need more than "your four hits from the 70'" to entertain an arena of fans.
I was almost exactly your age when I got into McCartney hardcore. When Paul toured in '89/'90, I loved seeing all those never-before-performed Beatles/Wings songs. But I am telling you the God's-truth when I tell ya' that the songs that blew me away when I heard 'em live: -We Got Married -Figure Of Eight -Put It There -My Brave Face Today, it is as if those songs were never recorded.
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Benf207:
That's great! Paul is giving all the newcomers (again, probably the majority at each show) a chance to see their favorites performed.
It's great. These songs are classics. But his tours are groundhog day.
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Benf207:
That's great! Paul is giving all the newcomers (again, probably the majority at each show) a chance to see their favorites performed.
I don't think they're all newcomers: Just musically pedestrian.
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audi:
C'mon, dude. It's Rush. They are nowhere NEAR the level of McCartney. Still, I agree that ten brand-new songs in a row is too much.
Exactly what I was gonna say about Springsteen..I am not a fan so I admit it although I do like some of his work..he is no McCartney..so it is hard to compare anyone to Paul...Except The Beatles..aha here we are right back to the dreaded band from the sixties....No matter what the people on this forum think they are a small number compared to all his fans..he has to try to please a lot of people not just this forum.
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audi:
C'mon, dude. It's Rush. They are nowhere NEAR the level of McCartney. Still, I agree that ten brand-new songs in a row is too much.
Well, musically they are SO far beyond.
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BUT, all round in every case- McCartney takes the cake. But regrdless, I was just focusing on an older band (that still plays arenas) setlist to try and compare just the setlists. Anyway- while I love FITD, I think it wuld b VERY obscure if all of a sudden he played more than one song from that album. I think doing one trck (like he is with HOD) would make perfect sense and fit right in, even if it means moving beatle track out.
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audi:
WixRocks!:
audi:
If Bruce Springsteen can build an entire tour on The Ghost Of Thom Joad, then, surely, Paul can build a tour around his solo work.
Example of how this could go poorly...I saw Rush last night as you know, the first half of the show was just songs from 1982-2007. I only knew three of the ten songs and it was weird. It sounded SUPERB but I lost a little bit of the connection because of that. Then, after their intermision they played their new album nearly in full....appox. anhour of songs nearly no one knew. The crowd was in and out of he arena, up and down, fidgetyand few sang along. Again, it sounded sesational but they pushed the audience away. I don' think it was smart t sit there and belt out 10 consecutive songs from a brand new album. Then, they ripped through four hts from the 70's and went home.
My point is: you need more than "your four hits from the 70'" to entertain an arena of fans.
I was almost exactly your age when I got into McCartney hardcore. When Paul toured in '89/'90, I loved seeing all those never-before-performed Beatles/Wings songs. But I am telling you the God's-truth when I tell ya' that the songs that blew me away when I heard 'em live: -We Got Married -Figure Of Eight -Put It There -My Brave Face Today, it is as if those songs were never recorded.
You rock Audi !! Agree totally
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WixRocks!:
audi:
If Bruce Springsteen can build an entire tour on The Ghost Of Thom Joad, then, surely, Paul can build a tour around his solo work.
Example of how this could go poorly...I saw Rush last night as you know, the first half of the show was just songs from 1982-2007. I only knew three of the ten songs and it was weird. It sounded SUPERB but I lost a little bit of the connection because of that. Then, after their intermision they played their new album nearly in full....appox. anhour of songs nearly no one knew. The crowd was in and out of he arena, up and down, fidgetyand few sang along. Again, it sounded sesational but they pushed the audience away. I don' think it was smart t sit there and belt out 10 consecutive songs from a brand new album. Then, they ripped through four hts from the 70's and went home.
My point is: you need more than "your four hits from the 70'" to entertain an arena of fans.
McCartney plays more than 4 hits from the 60's and 70's -lol. I am realistic and understand that Beatles/Wings are going to dominate the setlist. All I want is about 8-10 songs from a current setlist of 36 to be his solo work that he has not done live. IMO-25 songs from Beatles/Wings era should be enough to satisfy those fans. I also think McCartney is smart enough to know how to mix the solo songs into the setlist so the Beatle fans don't get too bored - lol.