Set List critique
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As somebody who has been a Paul fan for years and years and years (over the majority of my life) and never seen him live, I can't really see the reason to be upset over song choices. You're still in the arena or park or stadium at that moment in time, with that performer, hearing those songs, and that moment will never be repeated again (sure you might hear the same tune 2-10 times depending on how many shows you go to), but they will always be unique). That's the important bit, isn't it? Sure, it's fun to hope for the deep cuts that he never plays, but I think any fan of any band has those same wishes too. I will be happy seeing Paul in June even if he plays the kazoo the whole time.
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Sarah0504:
As somebody who has been a Paul fan for years and years and years (over the majority of my life) and never seen him live, I can't really see the reason to be upset over song choices. You're still in the arena or park or stadium at that moment in time, with that performer, hearing those songs, and that moment will never be repeated again (sure you might hear the same tune 2-10 times depending on how many shows you go to), but they will always be unique). That's the important bit, isn't it? Sure, it's fun to hope for the deep cuts that he never plays, but I think any fan of any band has those same wishes too. I will be happy seeing Paul in June even if he plays the kazoo the whole time.
I will not attend any more McCartney concerts even if he plays the city I live in again. I have been fortunate to have seen him several times over they years and I am not willing to spend that type of money to hear a show that will be basically 75% of the same songs I have heard before with most of the same between song stories. In addition, McCartney is getting worse vocally (not a surprise for a man in his 70's) and I prefer to remember the good performances I saw. To each their own but just stating my opinion.
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yankeefan7:
Sarah0504:
As somebody who has been a Paul fan for years and years and years (over the majority of my life) and never seen him live, I can't really see the reason to be upset over song choices. You're still in the arena or park or stadium at that moment in time, with that performer, hearing those songs, and that moment will never be repeated again (sure you might hear the same tune 2-10 times depending on how many shows you go to), but they will always be unique). That's the important bit, isn't it? Sure, it's fun to hope for the deep cuts that he never plays, but I think any fan of any band has those same wishes too. I will be happy seeing Paul in June even if he plays the kazoo the whole time.
I will not attend any more McCartney concerts even if he plays the city I live in again. I have been fortunate to have seen him several times over they years and I am not willing to spend that type of money to hear a show that will be basically 75% of the same songs I have heard before with most of the same between song stories. In addition, McCartney is getting worse vocally (not a surprise for a man in his 70's) and I prefer to remember the good performances I saw. To each their own but just stating my opinion.
Between the fact that his voice is less consistent now (though apparently he sounded fine in his first South American show the other day) and the set list that's 90% familiar, I'm with you. I've seen Paul six times, and at this point I'm content to treasure the memories -- particularly if he's playing baseball/football stadiums, which is not exactly the sort of place where you get intimate with the performer.
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audi:
Here's a Springsteen setlist from a couple of weeks ago: Set list: (snipped) And another setlist on this tour. Looks like he changes it up:
He does. No two Springsteen set lists are exactly the same. He usually will open with a different song in every city, which is always a fun surprise. Yet he is not changing his sets enough to satisfy some diehard Springsteen fans. So go figure.
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Sarah0504:
As somebody who has been a Paul fan for years and years and years (over the majority of my life) and never seen him live, I can't really see the reason to be upset over song choices. You're still in the arena or park or stadium at that moment in time, with that performer, hearing those songs, and that moment will never be repeated again (sure you might hear the same tune 2-10 times depending on how many shows you go to), but they will always be unique). That's the important bit, isn't it? Sure, it's fun to hope for the deep cuts that he never plays, but I think any fan of any band has those same wishes too. I will be happy seeing Paul in June even if he plays the kazoo the whole time.
...or if he sings the phone-book too, right?
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audi:
Sarah0504:
As somebody who has been a Paul fan for years and years and years (over the majority of my life) and never seen him live, I can't really see the reason to be upset over song choices. You're still in the arena or park or stadium at that moment in time, with that performer, hearing those songs, and that moment will never be repeated again (sure you might hear the same tune 2-10 times depending on how many shows you go to), but they will always be unique). That's the important bit, isn't it? Sure, it's fun to hope for the deep cuts that he never plays, but I think any fan of any band has those same wishes too. I will be happy seeing Paul in June even if he plays the kazoo the whole time.
...or if he sings the phone-book too, right?
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Basically Paul plays to the masses and the fans that have supported him for decades get a few crumbs of comfort every so often in his shows. I also think it's about time he downsized and played smaller gigs, even with the dull setlist a smaller show would be much better. One of the best Paul shows i've attended in recent times was in a place holding 4000 fans, the atmosphere was much more electric and rewarding than a humongous stadium or arena.
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Sarah0504:
As somebody who has been a Paul fan for years and years and years (over the majority of my life) and never seen him live, I can't really see the reason to be upset over song choices. You're still in the arena or park or stadium at that moment in time, with that performer, hearing those songs, and that moment will never be repeated again (sure you might hear the same tune 2-10 times depending on how many shows you go to), but they will always be unique). That's the important bit, isn't it? Sure, it's fun to hope for the deep cuts that he never plays, but I think any fan of any band has those same wishes too. I will be happy seeing Paul in June even if he plays the kazoo the whole time.
I agree...it has a lot to do with those who have been fortunate enough to see him multiple times, and for those who became fans later in his career..I understand it but what are you gonna do..I am with you I will be there no matter what he plays...
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Well said Kelly Campbell. I will take any opportunity I can to see Paul. I don't want to regret not taking an opportunity after he has stopped touring. He's in his seventies now, so he won't go on forever... Not being American, I don't feel I can be so blasé about it, as he certainly doesn't play Scotland as often as he hits the states. As an aside, I watched the Tokyo gig on YouTube, and the set list was a good deal different to the last time he played Glasgow.
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Swapping Beatles songs with other Beatles songs is no longer cutting it for me.
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I think it's great to hear beatles songs he never did live back in the day. There's not a period of Paul's music that I wouldn't enjoy a set of.
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audi:
Swapping Beatles songs with other Beatles songs is no longer cutting it for me.
I understand but for some of us who have been fans since 1964 it is nice to hear some old Beatles songs that are kind of obscure...Having said that I have no problem with hearing some solo and Wings material also I have really enjoyed Juniors Farm and Hi,Hi,Hi so I am ok with that also..It is just hard for me to imagine that there are people who don't want to hear any Beatles..so be it that is their taste..living through Beatlemania it is kind of sacrilegious ..just my thoughts... There are a lot of his solo and Wings I would love to hear don't get me wrong.
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If Paul wants to be considered a current recording artist -- and not a "rock & roll '60s package"* -- he needs to start acting like it. He has celebrated The Beatles catalog more than sufficiently since 1989. He's done it justice. If he had the beans, he'd put together a setlist, comprised by songs from Flaming Pie to NEW -- with some Beatles/Wings. *=which he said in 1993
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I don't consider him a "rock n roll / 60's package " the way things are. I consider him a current performing artist who has had a career spanning 5 decades. It's all down to perception.
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stuartshire:
I don't consider him a "rock n roll / 60's package " the way things are. I consider him a current performing artist who has had a career spanning 5 decades. It's all down to perception.
But the 5 decades are not represented.
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This is where I exit the conversation...it always ends up the same with both view points well represented yet it all comes down to he can play what ever he wants and he does...
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oobu24:
stuartshire:
I don't consider him a "rock n roll / 60's package " the way things are. I consider him a current performing artist who has had a career spanning 5 decades. It's all down to perception.
But the 5 decades are not represented.
Exactly. The most recent set list has nothing from the 3 decades between "Here Today" and "My Valentine." I'm not expecting miracles here -- Paul wants to please the masses with familiar tunes, I get that even though it doesn't thrill me -- but is it too much to ask for, say, one song each from Chaos, MAF and one other post-1990 album?
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Bruce M.:
oobu24:
stuartshire:
I don't consider him a "rock n roll / 60's package " the way things are. I consider him a current performing artist who has had a career spanning 5 decades. It's all down to perception.
But the 5 decades are not represented.
Exactly. The most recent set list has nothing from the 3 decades between "Here Today" and "My Valentine." I'm not expecting miracles here -- Paul wants to please the masses with familiar tunes, I get that even though it doesn't thrill me -- but is it too much to ask for, say, one song each from Chaos, MAF and one other post-1990 album?
I feel like the 2005 setlist is the perfect representation of what you're looking for, Bruce. In addition to that, just add the songs from "New," a few from "Memory Almost Full" and maybe few other songs from throughout his solo career, and that would be perfect!
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Sarah0504:
As somebody who has been a Paul fan for years and years and years (over the majority of my life) and never seen him live, I can't really see the reason to be upset over song choices. You're still in the arena or park or stadium at that moment in time, with that performer, hearing those songs, and that moment will never be repeated again (sure you might hear the same tune 2-10 times depending on how many shows you go to), but they will always be unique). That's the important bit, isn't it? Sure, it's fun to hope for the deep cuts that he never plays, but I think any fan of any band has those same wishes too. I will be happy seeing Paul in June even if he plays the kazoo the whole time.
I HAVE been lucky enough to see him a half dozen times. Even if I saw him 100 times, and he did the same songs 100 times, I would go back again. And again and again and again.
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me to..the two shows so far that I have tickets for will be 18 and 19..I still feel that way ....I would just like to see him mix up the banter between songs be more spotaneous get off the same old conversation....tell more stories or something