My Visit To Ringo's Child hood Home In Liverpool
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Roag giving us a tour in 2011:
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@njr Sure looks like Dr Winston O'boogie to me
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@wandy said in My Visit To Ringo's Child hood Home In Liverpool:
@njr I saw the Pete Best band in Liverpool, I would say around 30 yrs ago I enjoyed the show, but I still think Ringo was and is, still the best drummer for the Beatles. Pete might be "Best", but Ringo is a Star(r)
I agree completely. I know exactly why they chose Ringo. I spent 3 hours with Pete, Roag, Roag Jr. and the band one night in Mexico in 2014 and I don’t think Pete said 3 words! Even Roag Jr. talked to me. Talked mostly with Roag - we both have twins. He has identical girls and I have a boy & a girl. Pete was real nice though and I got a great pic hugging him and earlier he had signed one of his used drumsticks for me. At that same convention was also Laurence Juber and Denny Seiwell.
P.S. There is also a Roag III! Roag just posted a pic of the 3 of them on his FB page. (Roag Jr. is about 28 years old and Roag III looks to be about 3 or 4) Here’s the photo: -
@wandy Scroll back. You may have missed my pics of Roag in 2011.
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@njr I have never met Roag Best ( did you know his father was Neil Aspinal? He and Mona had an affair ) But when I visited the Casbah in 2008, Rory allowed me to film ( video) the tour. A week or so later I put my Casbah film on Youtube. A few weeks after that I got a polite email from Roag asking me to take it down, apparently Rory had made a mistake in allowing me to film in the Casbah. His email was so polite, I couldn't refuse him. I removed my film from Youtube, but I still have it on dvd. I didn't care how polite he was, I wasn't going to bin my dvd.
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@njr I saw them. I replied by mentioning an email Roag sent to me.
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@wandy said in My Visit To Ringo's Child hood Home In Liverpool:
@njr I have never met Roag Best ( did you know his father was Neil Aspinal? He and Mona had an affair ) But when I visited the Casbah in 2008, Rory allowed me to film ( video) the tour. A week or so later I put my Casbah film on Youtube. A few weeks after that I got a polite email from Roag asking me to take it down, apparently Rory had made a mistake in allowing me to film in the Casbah. His email was so polite, I couldn't refuse him. I removed my film from Youtube, but I still have it on dvd. I didn't care how polite he was, I wasn't going to bin my dvd.
Of course I know Neil Aspinall was his dad! There probably isn’t anything you could tell me that is Beatles-related that I don’t know!
Well, I can understand him not wanting your video on YouTube. They want paying customers to see it in person. And of course, no need to throw away your DVD! I just wish Leslie and I had all-region DVD players! Can’t play Region 2 DVDs here.️
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@wandy Did you see the 3 Roags pic? So cute!
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@njr Nice photo. Apparently ( but it's probably urban legend because I have never heard the recording) there is a recording of a journalist asking John Lennon why the Beatles fired Pete, as Pete was technically a better drummer than Ringo. John is supposed to have replied, "Pete might be a better drummer, but Ringo is a better "Beatle" ( unquote) If John did say this then I think it's because of Ringo's whacky like personality. Ringo fitted right in from the get go, straight out of the racing blocks. WHOOSH!! I notice in the pictures of when Pete was in the Beatles, Pete was hardly smiling at all. He just didn't look the part. I told as much to Rory, but he disagreed with me. No surprise there, they are brothers. And let's be honest, probably Ringo's main contribution to the drumming he did on the Beatles recordings is those tricky "drum fills". Those drum fills are UNIQUE to Ringo. Unique like his own fingerprints. Never in a million years would Pete Best produce drum fills like that. Never.
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@wandy said in My Visit To Ringo's Child hood Home In Liverpool:
@njr Nice photo. Apparently ( but it's probably urban legend because I have never heard the recording) there is a recording of a journalist asking John Lennon why the Beatles fired Pete, as Pete was technically a better drummer than Ringo. John is supposed to have replied, "Pete might be a better drummer, but Ringo is a better "Beatle" ( unquote) If John did say this then I think it's because of Ringo's whacky like personality. Ringo fitted right in from the get go, straight out of the racing blocks. WHOOSH!! I notice in the pictures of when Pete was in the Beatles, Pete was hardly smiling at all. He just didn't look the part. I told as much to Rory, but he disagreed with me. No surprise there, they are brothers. And let's be honest, probably Ringo's main contribution to the drumming he did on the Beatles recordings is those tricky "drum fills". Those drum fills are UNIQUE to Ringo. Unique like his own fingerprints. Never in a million years would Pete Best produce drum fills like that. Never.
I do believe I’ve heard that actual interview where John says Ringo was a better Beatle. I’m going to research it. John could have said “Pete might have been a better drummer, but Ringo was a better Beatle.” (in other words, he was speaking in past tense)
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@wandy P.S. I agree with you about what you said about Pete vs. Ringo drumming.
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@njr Yes. But John was basically saying ( in a nutshell) Ringo just fitted in better. I agree with John. Let's face it, having a career in a successfull band is not a normal career. Especially when you are touring. At the end of the day (or night) you don't clock out and go home to your family. The band IS your family. And if you are just starting out and poor, you literally have to sleep together in the same bed. Maybe not 4 to a bed, but certainly 2 in one bed, and 2 in another bed, because you simply can't afford 4 hotel rooms. Paul tells the story of them travelling home from a gig, no heating in the van, snow pouring down outside, I think he said the van also had no windscreen, so the 4 of them huddled together for warmth, like a "Beatle sandwich". If you are living like that then you had pretty darned better be a "better Beatle" and get along well with each other.
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@wandy said in My Visit To Ringo's Child hood Home In Liverpool:
@njr Yes. But John was basically saying ( in a nutshell) Ringo just fitted in better. I agree with John. Let's face it, having a career in a successfull band is not a normal career. Especially when you are touring. At the end of the day (or night) you don't clock out and go home to your family. The band IS your family. And if you are just starting out and poor, you literally have to sleep together in the same bed. Maybe not 4 to a bed, but certainly 2 in one bed, and 2 in another bed, because you simply can't afford 4 hotel rooms. Paul tells the story of them travelling home from a gig, no heating in the van, snow pouring down outside, I think he said the van also had no windscreen, so the 4 of them huddled together for warmth, like a "Beatle sandwich". If you are living like that then you had pretty darned better be a "better Beatle" and get along well with each other.
Yes, I understand that John meant Ringo fit in better.
And I think the only time Paul & John actually slept in the same bed was when they hitchhiked to France and stayed at some farmer’s house in England. (Or maybe it was Paul & George when they hitchhiked around England) When they were in Hamburg they had bunk beds and when they were on tour they had twin beds (2 in each of 2 rooms) The story about being in the van was that it was winter and something cracked the windshield (windscreen) and Neil & Mal had to punch the whole thing out, so they were so cold they slept on top of each other (rotating as to who got to be warmer on the bottom) All this info I’ve learned over the years and Mark Lewisohn speaks in great detail about in it his book Tune In (Vol.1) that came out in 2013. Vol. 2 had better come out no later than 2024 or I will be very pissed! When he released Vol. 1 he said he was 40% done with Vol. 2! It shouldn’t take over 10 years to finish the rest. We’ll all be dead by the time Vol. 3 comes out! -
@wandy Here’s an article I found. Still researching.
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@wandy Another article. Still can’t find info about the John quote.
https://www.culturesonar.com/ringo-at-80-he-passed-the-audition/
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@njr perhaps you can't find it because it is an Urban Legend who knows. I tapped the red speech bubble to send you this reply.
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@wandy So instead of clicking on Submit, you click on the red thing?! Didn’t work for me, mate.
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@njr Lol! As Ringo said in Yellow Submarine. "DON'T PRESS THE BUTTON"!!!! Funny. As I'm typing this out, the button isn't there