Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison
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@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
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@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
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@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@wandy said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
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@wandy said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@wandy said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
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@wandy said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@wandy said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
My father was an English professor at an American university and his specialty was James Joyce and the nonsense (or seeming nonsense) of Finnegan's Wake. When I visited him in 1984, I noticed he had John Lennon's books In His Own Write and A Spaniard in the Works on his coffee table. And he said "he's not bad -- reminds me of James Joyce." That was significant coming from him because he was quite critical of writers.
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@wandy said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@wandy said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
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@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@wandy said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
IIRC, John used to write to Mrs. Harrison a lot because she was such a āfanā of theirs and always welcomed them into the house to practice, unlike his stern Aunt Mimi. Both he & Paulās mums were dead and Ringo didnāt join until Aug. 1962, so Mrs. Harrison was the only one to write to (like a mum) 1960-1962.
P.S. Mrs. Harrison would answer fans letters too. I wrote to her and Maureen Starkey in 1968 after Hunter Davies revealed that they both wrote to fans - I received a letter from Maureen, but not Mrs. H. -
@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
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@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
IIRC, John used to write to Mrs. Harrison a lot because she was such a āfanā of theirs and always welcomed them into the house to practice, unlike his stern Aunt Mimi. Both he & Paulās mums were dead and Ringo didnāt join until Aug. 1962, so Mrs. Harrison was the only one to write to (like a mum) 1960-1962.
P.S. Mrs. Harrison would answer fans letters too. I wrote to her and Maureen Starkey in 1968 after Hunter Davies revealed that they both wrote to fans - I received a letter from Maureen, but not Mrs. H.Wow, so cool that you got that letter!
I'd like to see the other correspondence between John and Mrs. Harrison -
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@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
IIRC, John used to write to Mrs. Harrison a lot because she was such a āfanā of theirs and always welcomed them into the house to practice, unlike his stern Aunt Mimi. Both he & Paulās mums were dead and Ringo didnāt join until Aug. 1962, so Mrs. Harrison was the only one to write to (like a mum) 1960-1962.
P.S. Mrs. Harrison would answer fans letters too. I wrote to her and Maureen Starkey in 1968 after Hunter Davies revealed that they both wrote to fans - I received a letter from Maureen, but not Mrs. H.Wow, so cool that you got that letter!
I'd like to see the other correspondence between John and Mrs. HarrisonNot sure if any more of it was preserved. Could be in either Hunter Davies bio or Mark Lewisohnās Tune In. Do you have those?
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I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
IIRC, John used to write to Mrs. Harrison a lot because she was such a āfanā of theirs and always welcomed them into the house to practice, unlike his stern Aunt Mimi. Both he & Paulās mums were dead and Ringo didnāt join until Aug. 1962, so Mrs. Harrison was the only one to write to (like a mum) 1960-1962.
P.S. Mrs. Harrison would answer fans letters too. I wrote to her and Maureen Starkey in 1968 after Hunter Davies revealed that they both wrote to fans - I received a letter from Maureen, but not Mrs. H.Wow, so cool that you got that letter!
I'd like to see the other correspondence between John and Mrs. HarrisonNot sure if any more of it was preserved. Could be in either Hunter Davies bio or Mark Lewisohnās Tune In. Do you have those?
No, I've never read any book about the Beatles. I'm quite the fledgling Beatles fan, hardly have spent any time digging around. I probably know more about Santana and Chicago, two other bands I like a lot, than I do the Beatles. I even read half of Carlos Santana's autobiography (I quit reading it because it was getting kind of tedious with details I wasn't interested in, and instead of finishing it I just dove into the index and picked out entries I wanted to read).
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@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
IIRC, John used to write to Mrs. Harrison a lot because she was such a āfanā of theirs and always welcomed them into the house to practice, unlike his stern Aunt Mimi. Both he & Paulās mums were dead and Ringo didnāt join until Aug. 1962, so Mrs. Harrison was the only one to write to (like a mum) 1960-1962.
P.S. Mrs. Harrison would answer fans letters too. I wrote to her and Maureen Starkey in 1968 after Hunter Davies revealed that they both wrote to fans - I received a letter from Maureen, but not Mrs. H.Wow, so cool that you got that letter!
I'd like to see the other correspondence between John and Mrs. HarrisonNot sure if any more of it was preserved. Could be in either Hunter Davies bio or Mark Lewisohnās Tune In. Do you have those?
No, I've never read any book about the Beatles. I'm quite the fledgling Beatles fan, hardly have spent any time digging around. I probably know more about Santana and Chicago, two other bands I like a lot, than I do the Beatles. I even read half of Carlos Santana's autobiography (I quit reading it because it was getting kind of tedious with details I wasn't interested in, and instead of finishing it I just dove into the index and picked out entries I wanted to read).
Well, Iām quite the opposite!
Since 1964 I have accumulated and read over 150 Beatles-related books!
Did a Google search and couldnāt find any others from John to Mrs. Harrison, but hereās a cute one to George in 1974: (you can open it in Chrome - see bottom of page)https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/rz7zj1/john_lennon_letters_to_cynthia_and_george_in_1974/
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@njr said in Letter from John to Mrs. Harrison:
I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
IIRC, John used to write to Mrs. Harrison a lot because she was such a āfanā of theirs and always welcomed them into the house to practice, unlike his stern Aunt Mimi. Both he & Paulās mums were dead and Ringo didnāt join until Aug. 1962, so Mrs. Harrison was the only one to write to (like a mum) 1960-1962.
P.S. Mrs. Harrison would answer fans letters too. I wrote to her and Maureen Starkey in 1968 after Hunter Davies revealed that they both wrote to fans - I received a letter from Maureen, but not Mrs. H.Wow, so cool that you got that letter!
I'd like to see the other correspondence between John and Mrs. HarrisonNot sure if any more of it was preserved. Could be in either Hunter Davies bio or Mark Lewisohnās Tune In. Do you have those?
No, I've never read any book about the Beatles. I'm quite the fledgling Beatles fan, hardly have spent any time digging around. I probably know more about Santana and Chicago, two other bands I like a lot, than I do the Beatles. I even read half of Carlos Santana's autobiography (I quit reading it because it was getting kind of tedious with details I wasn't interested in, and instead of finishing it I just dove into the index and picked out entries I wanted to read).
Well, Iām quite the opposite!
Since 1964 I have accumulated and read over 150 Beatles-related books!
Did a Google search and couldnāt find any others from John to Mrs. Harrison, but hereās a cute one to George in 1974: (you can open it in Chrome - see bottom of page)https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/rz7zj1/john_lennon_letters_to_cynthia_and_george_in_1974/
Thanks that was interesting. It led in the comments to other links, one to a Lennon letter to Paul and Linda that was pretty rough. "So get that into your petty little perversion of a mind, Mrs. McCartney" -- wow!
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I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
IIRC, John used to write to Mrs. Harrison a lot because she was such a āfanā of theirs and always welcomed them into the house to practice, unlike his stern Aunt Mimi. Both he & Paulās mums were dead and Ringo didnāt join until Aug. 1962, so Mrs. Harrison was the only one to write to (like a mum) 1960-1962.
P.S. Mrs. Harrison would answer fans letters too. I wrote to her and Maureen Starkey in 1968 after Hunter Davies revealed that they both wrote to fans - I received a letter from Maureen, but not Mrs. H.Wow, so cool that you got that letter!
I'd like to see the other correspondence between John and Mrs. HarrisonNot sure if any more of it was preserved. Could be in either Hunter Davies bio or Mark Lewisohnās Tune In. Do you have those?
No, I've never read any book about the Beatles. I'm quite the fledgling Beatles fan, hardly have spent any time digging around. I probably know more about Santana and Chicago, two other bands I like a lot, than I do the Beatles. I even read half of Carlos Santana's autobiography (I quit reading it because it was getting kind of tedious with details I wasn't interested in, and instead of finishing it I just dove into the index and picked out entries I wanted to read).
Well, Iām quite the opposite!
Since 1964 I have accumulated and read over 150 Beatles-related books!
Did a Google search and couldnāt find any others from John to Mrs. Harrison, but hereās a cute one to George in 1974: (you can open it in Chrome - see bottom of page)https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/rz7zj1/john_lennon_letters_to_cynthia_and_george_in_1974/
Thanks that was interesting. It led in the comments to other links, one to a Lennon letter to Paul and Linda that was pretty rough. "So get that into your petty little perversion of a mind, Mrs. McCartney" -- wow!
Yeah, Iāve read that nasty letter.
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I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
IIRC, John used to write to Mrs. Harrison a lot because she was such a āfanā of theirs and always welcomed them into the house to practice, unlike his stern Aunt Mimi. Both he & Paulās mums were dead and Ringo didnāt join until Aug. 1962, so Mrs. Harrison was the only one to write to (like a mum) 1960-1962.
P.S. Mrs. Harrison would answer fans letters too. I wrote to her and Maureen Starkey in 1968 after Hunter Davies revealed that they both wrote to fans - I received a letter from Maureen, but not Mrs. H.Wow, so cool that you got that letter!
I'd like to see the other correspondence between John and Mrs. HarrisonNot sure if any more of it was preserved. Could be in either Hunter Davies bio or Mark Lewisohnās Tune In. Do you have those?
No, I've never read any book about the Beatles. I'm quite the fledgling Beatles fan, hardly have spent any time digging around. I probably know more about Santana and Chicago, two other bands I like a lot, than I do the Beatles. I even read half of Carlos Santana's autobiography (I quit reading it because it was getting kind of tedious with details I wasn't interested in, and instead of finishing it I just dove into the index and picked out entries I wanted to read).
Well, Iām quite the opposite!
Since 1964 I have accumulated and read over 150 Beatles-related books!
Did a Google search and couldnāt find any others from John to Mrs. Harrison, but hereās a cute one to George in 1974: (you can open it in Chrome - see bottom of page)https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/rz7zj1/john_lennon_letters_to_cynthia_and_george_in_1974/
Thanks that was interesting. It led in the comments to other links, one to a Lennon letter to Paul and Linda that was pretty rough. "So get that into your petty little perversion of a mind, Mrs. McCartney" -- wow!
Yeah, Iāve read that nasty letter.
Even though some say that people exaggerate the infighting and contention among The Beatles, it does seem like there was some deep-seated acrimony, particularly relating to Paul, something about the way he was that got under the skin of the others, perhaps especially John. Close friends can do that to each other, no doubt. But there's still usually a reason for it, and I don't think it's always the case that "nobody is at fault" or "everybody is at fault". Sometimes it could just be that one of the two is more guilty than the other in terms of some context or some habit.
If I may speculate a little, I think there were two things about Paul that might have rubbed the others the wrong way -- one of them is the way he handled the business end of things. The other was his musical perfectionism, that seemed to be on an extreme OCD level. Since I'm a Paul fan myself, I don't mind his perfectionism because I think he's probably usually right about whatever details he wants. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't annoy friends and musical partners around him. On the business angle, I noticed a subtle detail that to me indicates Paul's attitude. Many years ago I purchased the song book for the first Ringo solo album. It's a cool song book with a lot of drawings by Klaus Voormann. Now in that album, you have a song written by each of the other three Beatles -- Photograph by George Harrison (co-written by Ringo), I'm The Greatest by John Lennon, and Six O'Clock by Paul McCartney. The interesting detail is that in that song book the only song NOT included is Paul's song. I can't think of any other reason than purely business calculations, which evidently the other two Beatles didn't care about -- to their credit.
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I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
IIRC, John used to write to Mrs. Harrison a lot because she was such a āfanā of theirs and always welcomed them into the house to practice, unlike his stern Aunt Mimi. Both he & Paulās mums were dead and Ringo didnāt join until Aug. 1962, so Mrs. Harrison was the only one to write to (like a mum) 1960-1962.
P.S. Mrs. Harrison would answer fans letters too. I wrote to her and Maureen Starkey in 1968 after Hunter Davies revealed that they both wrote to fans - I received a letter from Maureen, but not Mrs. H.Wow, so cool that you got that letter!
I'd like to see the other correspondence between John and Mrs. HarrisonNot sure if any more of it was preserved. Could be in either Hunter Davies bio or Mark Lewisohnās Tune In. Do you have those?
No, I've never read any book about the Beatles. I'm quite the fledgling Beatles fan, hardly have spent any time digging around. I probably know more about Santana and Chicago, two other bands I like a lot, than I do the Beatles. I even read half of Carlos Santana's autobiography (I quit reading it because it was getting kind of tedious with details I wasn't interested in, and instead of finishing it I just dove into the index and picked out entries I wanted to read).
Well, Iām quite the opposite!
Since 1964 I have accumulated and read over 150 Beatles-related books!
Did a Google search and couldnāt find any others from John to Mrs. Harrison, but hereās a cute one to George in 1974: (you can open it in Chrome - see bottom of page)https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/rz7zj1/john_lennon_letters_to_cynthia_and_george_in_1974/
Thanks that was interesting. It led in the comments to other links, one to a Lennon letter to Paul and Linda that was pretty rough. "So get that into your petty little perversion of a mind, Mrs. McCartney" -- wow!
Yeah, Iāve read that nasty letter.
Even though some say that people exaggerate the infighting and contention among The Beatles, it does seem like there was some deep-seated acrimony, particularly relating to Paul, something about the way he was that got under the skin of the others, perhaps especially John. Close friends can do that to each other, no doubt. But there's still usually a reason for it, and I don't think it's always the case that "nobody is at fault" or "everybody is at fault". Sometimes it could just be that one of the two is more guilty than the other in terms of some context or some habit.
If I may speculate a little, I think there were two things about Paul that might have rubbed the others the wrong way -- one of them is the way he handled the business end of things. The other was his musical perfectionism, that seemed to be on an extreme OCD level. Since I'm a Paul fan myself, I don't mind his perfectionism because I think he's probably usually right about whatever details he wants. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't annoy friends and musical partners around him. On the business angle, I noticed a subtle detail that to me indicates Paul's attitude. Many years ago I purchased the song book for the first Ringo solo album. It's a cool song book with a lot of drawings by Klaus Voormann. Now in that album, you have a song written by each of the other three Beatles -- Photograph by George Harrison (co-written by Ringo), I'm The Greatest by John Lennon, and Six O'Clock by Paul McCartney. The interesting detail is that in that song book the only song NOT included is Paul's song. I can't think of any other reason than purely business calculations, which evidently the other two Beatles didn't care about -- to their credit.
Wow! That really is odd they would exclude Paulās song!
There was another incident that happened in the summer of 1968 after John left Cyn & Julian (they lived in the house in Weybridge for awhile) and John & Yoko moved in with Paul when he had Francie Schwartz shacked up there. This is a bit long, but read it. If true, itās a good reason for John to be pissed at Paul:(and just an fyi, that was not his 1st solo album. You forgot Beaucoups of Blues and Sentimental Journey)
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I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
IIRC, John used to write to Mrs. Harrison a lot because she was such a āfanā of theirs and always welcomed them into the house to practice, unlike his stern Aunt Mimi. Both he & Paulās mums were dead and Ringo didnāt join until Aug. 1962, so Mrs. Harrison was the only one to write to (like a mum) 1960-1962.
P.S. Mrs. Harrison would answer fans letters too. I wrote to her and Maureen Starkey in 1968 after Hunter Davies revealed that they both wrote to fans - I received a letter from Maureen, but not Mrs. H.Wow, so cool that you got that letter!
I'd like to see the other correspondence between John and Mrs. HarrisonNot sure if any more of it was preserved. Could be in either Hunter Davies bio or Mark Lewisohnās Tune In. Do you have those?
No, I've never read any book about the Beatles. I'm quite the fledgling Beatles fan, hardly have spent any time digging around. I probably know more about Santana and Chicago, two other bands I like a lot, than I do the Beatles. I even read half of Carlos Santana's autobiography (I quit reading it because it was getting kind of tedious with details I wasn't interested in, and instead of finishing it I just dove into the index and picked out entries I wanted to read).
Well, Iām quite the opposite!
Since 1964 I have accumulated and read over 150 Beatles-related books!
Did a Google search and couldnāt find any others from John to Mrs. Harrison, but hereās a cute one to George in 1974: (you can open it in Chrome - see bottom of page)https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/rz7zj1/john_lennon_letters_to_cynthia_and_george_in_1974/
Thanks that was interesting. It led in the comments to other links, one to a Lennon letter to Paul and Linda that was pretty rough. "So get that into your petty little perversion of a mind, Mrs. McCartney" -- wow!
Yeah, Iāve read that nasty letter.
Even though some say that people exaggerate the infighting and contention among The Beatles, it does seem like there was some deep-seated acrimony, particularly relating to Paul, something about the way he was that got under the skin of the others, perhaps especially John. Close friends can do that to each other, no doubt. But there's still usually a reason for it, and I don't think it's always the case that "nobody is at fault" or "everybody is at fault". Sometimes it could just be that one of the two is more guilty than the other in terms of some context or some habit.
If I may speculate a little, I think there were two things about Paul that might have rubbed the others the wrong way -- one of them is the way he handled the business end of things. The other was his musical perfectionism, that seemed to be on an extreme OCD level. Since I'm a Paul fan myself, I don't mind his perfectionism because I think he's probably usually right about whatever details he wants. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't annoy friends and musical partners around him. On the business angle, I noticed a subtle detail that to me indicates Paul's attitude. Many years ago I purchased the song book for the first Ringo solo album. It's a cool song book with a lot of drawings by Klaus Voormann. Now in that album, you have a song written by each of the other three Beatles -- Photograph by George Harrison (co-written by Ringo), I'm The Greatest by John Lennon, and Six O'Clock by Paul McCartney. The interesting detail is that in that song book the only song NOT included is Paul's song. I can't think of any other reason than purely business calculations, which evidently the other two Beatles didn't care about -- to their credit.
Wow! That really is odd they would exclude Paulās song!
There was another incident that happened in the summer of 1968 after John left Cyn & Julian (they lived in the house in Weybridge for awhile) and John & Yoko moved in with Paul when he had Francie Schwartz shacked up there. This is a bit long, but read it. If true, itās a good reason for John to be pissed at Paul:(and just an fyi, that was not his 1st solo album. You forgot Beaucoups of Blues and Sentimental Journey)
Thanks. That's interesting. Even though that guy writing that article doubts Francie, I don't see why one should doubt her. Just because the principals don't mention the incident later I don't think is a good enough reason to say she's lying. And the details that she provides sound realistic and not made up, like it was typed and with no signature, etc. If we're speculating, it's possible that a few years later into the 70s maybe Paul finally apologized but they kept it between them.
Yes, I just realized there were two Ringo albums before that one. I defer to the Beatlemaniac Expert! By the way that song Six O'Clock, even though it's not in the Ringo songbook as it should be, is in the Paul McCartney songbook on Red Rose Speedway which I own also -- even though that song is not on Red RoseSpeedway! But I'm glad I found it somewhere back in the day before the internet, because I'm not good at figuring out chords by ear and back then it was very difficult to find music scores especially for an obscure song like that.
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I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
IIRC, John used to write to Mrs. Harrison a lot because she was such a āfanā of theirs and always welcomed them into the house to practice, unlike his stern Aunt Mimi. Both he & Paulās mums were dead and Ringo didnāt join until Aug. 1962, so Mrs. Harrison was the only one to write to (like a mum) 1960-1962.
P.S. Mrs. Harrison would answer fans letters too. I wrote to her and Maureen Starkey in 1968 after Hunter Davies revealed that they both wrote to fans - I received a letter from Maureen, but not Mrs. H.Wow, so cool that you got that letter!
I'd like to see the other correspondence between John and Mrs. HarrisonNot sure if any more of it was preserved. Could be in either Hunter Davies bio or Mark Lewisohnās Tune In. Do you have those?
No, I've never read any book about the Beatles. I'm quite the fledgling Beatles fan, hardly have spent any time digging around. I probably know more about Santana and Chicago, two other bands I like a lot, than I do the Beatles. I even read half of Carlos Santana's autobiography (I quit reading it because it was getting kind of tedious with details I wasn't interested in, and instead of finishing it I just dove into the index and picked out entries I wanted to read).
Well, Iām quite the opposite!
Since 1964 I have accumulated and read over 150 Beatles-related books!
Did a Google search and couldnāt find any others from John to Mrs. Harrison, but hereās a cute one to George in 1974: (you can open it in Chrome - see bottom of page)https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/rz7zj1/john_lennon_letters_to_cynthia_and_george_in_1974/
Thanks that was interesting. It led in the comments to other links, one to a Lennon letter to Paul and Linda that was pretty rough. "So get that into your petty little perversion of a mind, Mrs. McCartney" -- wow!
Yeah, Iāve read that nasty letter.
Even though some say that people exaggerate the infighting and contention among The Beatles, it does seem like there was some deep-seated acrimony, particularly relating to Paul, something about the way he was that got under the skin of the others, perhaps especially John. Close friends can do that to each other, no doubt. But there's still usually a reason for it, and I don't think it's always the case that "nobody is at fault" or "everybody is at fault". Sometimes it could just be that one of the two is more guilty than the other in terms of some context or some habit.
If I may speculate a little, I think there were two things about Paul that might have rubbed the others the wrong way -- one of them is the way he handled the business end of things. The other was his musical perfectionism, that seemed to be on an extreme OCD level. Since I'm a Paul fan myself, I don't mind his perfectionism because I think he's probably usually right about whatever details he wants. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't annoy friends and musical partners around him. On the business angle, I noticed a subtle detail that to me indicates Paul's attitude. Many years ago I purchased the song book for the first Ringo solo album. It's a cool song book with a lot of drawings by Klaus Voormann. Now in that album, you have a song written by each of the other three Beatles -- Photograph by George Harrison (co-written by Ringo), I'm The Greatest by John Lennon, and Six O'Clock by Paul McCartney. The interesting detail is that in that song book the only song NOT included is Paul's song. I can't think of any other reason than purely business calculations, which evidently the other two Beatles didn't care about -- to their credit.
Wow! That really is odd they would exclude Paulās song!
There was another incident that happened in the summer of 1968 after John left Cyn & Julian (they lived in the house in Weybridge for awhile) and John & Yoko moved in with Paul when he had Francie Schwartz shacked up there. This is a bit long, but read it. If true, itās a good reason for John to be pissed at Paul:(and just an fyi, that was not his 1st solo album. You forgot Beaucoups of Blues and Sentimental Journey)
Thanks. That's interesting. Even though that guy writing that article doubts Francie, I don't see why one should doubt her. Just because the principals don't mention the incident later I don't think is a good enough reason to say she's lying. And the details that she provides sound realistic and not made up, like it was typed and with no signature, etc. If we're speculating, it's possible that a few years later into the 70s maybe Paul finally apologized but they kept it between them.
Yes, I just realized there were two Ringo albums before that one. I defer to the Beatlemaniac Expert! By the way that song Six O'Clock, even though it's not in the Ringo songbook as it should be, is in the Paul McCartney songbook on Red Rose Speedway which I own also -- even though that song is not on Red RoseSpeedway! But I'm glad I found it somewhere back in the day before the internet, because I'm not good at figuring out chords by ear and back then it was very difficult to find music scores especially for an obscure song like that.
Thanks for the acknowledgment!
I have a lot of Beatles songbooks and one of McCartneyās called Composer Artist (1981) Itās not in there, but I did find it in The New Songs Of George, Paul & Ringo. Thereās no date on the songbook, but I donāt think any song it it is newer than 1974. -
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I bet even Yoko thought John was weird sometimes and that's saying something!!!
Well, maybe, but Yoko never would have seen this letter. John wrote it when they were in Hamburg performing. He used to write LONG letters to Cynthia too. In later years, his postcards & letters werenāt gibberish like this. He might draw something though.
Yes John just loved words and word play. Genius or looney. Who knows.
A bit of both I think!
Was this letter a one-off? Or did he write more letters like this to Mrs Harrison? If this was a one-off, I wonder how she took it? "Oh that little Johnny boy, such a character!"
IIRC, John used to write to Mrs. Harrison a lot because she was such a āfanā of theirs and always welcomed them into the house to practice, unlike his stern Aunt Mimi. Both he & Paulās mums were dead and Ringo didnāt join until Aug. 1962, so Mrs. Harrison was the only one to write to (like a mum) 1960-1962.
P.S. Mrs. Harrison would answer fans letters too. I wrote to her and Maureen Starkey in 1968 after Hunter Davies revealed that they both wrote to fans - I received a letter from Maureen, but not Mrs. H.Wow, so cool that you got that letter!
I'd like to see the other correspondence between John and Mrs. HarrisonNot sure if any more of it was preserved. Could be in either Hunter Davies bio or Mark Lewisohnās Tune In. Do you have those?
No, I've never read any book about the Beatles. I'm quite the fledgling Beatles fan, hardly have spent any time digging around. I probably know more about Santana and Chicago, two other bands I like a lot, than I do the Beatles. I even read half of Carlos Santana's autobiography (I quit reading it because it was getting kind of tedious with details I wasn't interested in, and instead of finishing it I just dove into the index and picked out entries I wanted to read).
Well, Iām quite the opposite!
Since 1964 I have accumulated and read over 150 Beatles-related books!
Did a Google search and couldnāt find any others from John to Mrs. Harrison, but hereās a cute one to George in 1974: (you can open it in Chrome - see bottom of page)https://www.reddit.com/r/beatles/comments/rz7zj1/john_lennon_letters_to_cynthia_and_george_in_1974/
Thanks that was interesting. It led in the comments to other links, one to a Lennon letter to Paul and Linda that was pretty rough. "So get that into your petty little perversion of a mind, Mrs. McCartney" -- wow!
Yeah, Iāve read that nasty letter.
Even though some say that people exaggerate the infighting and contention among The Beatles, it does seem like there was some deep-seated acrimony, particularly relating to Paul, something about the way he was that got under the skin of the others, perhaps especially John. Close friends can do that to each other, no doubt. But there's still usually a reason for it, and I don't think it's always the case that "nobody is at fault" or "everybody is at fault". Sometimes it could just be that one of the two is more guilty than the other in terms of some context or some habit.
If I may speculate a little, I think there were two things about Paul that might have rubbed the others the wrong way -- one of them is the way he handled the business end of things. The other was his musical perfectionism, that seemed to be on an extreme OCD level. Since I'm a Paul fan myself, I don't mind his perfectionism because I think he's probably usually right about whatever details he wants. But that doesn't mean it wouldn't annoy friends and musical partners around him. On the business angle, I noticed a subtle detail that to me indicates Paul's attitude. Many years ago I purchased the song book for the first Ringo solo album. It's a cool song book with a lot of drawings by Klaus Voormann. Now in that album, you have a song written by each of the other three Beatles -- Photograph by George Harrison (co-written by Ringo), I'm The Greatest by John Lennon, and Six O'Clock by Paul McCartney. The interesting detail is that in that song book the only song NOT included is Paul's song. I can't think of any other reason than purely business calculations, which evidently the other two Beatles didn't care about -- to their credit.
Wow! That really is odd they would exclude Paulās song!
There was another incident that happened in the summer of 1968 after John left Cyn & Julian (they lived in the house in Weybridge for awhile) and John & Yoko moved in with Paul when he had Francie Schwartz shacked up there. This is a bit long, but read it. If true, itās a good reason for John to be pissed at Paul:(and just an fyi, that was not his 1st solo album. You forgot Beaucoups of Blues and Sentimental Journey)
Thanks. That's interesting. Even though that guy writing that article doubts Francie, I don't see why one should doubt her. Just because the principals don't mention the incident later I don't think is a good enough reason to say she's lying. And the details that she provides sound realistic and not made up, like it was typed and with no signature, etc. If we're speculating, it's possible that a few years later into the 70s maybe Paul finally apologized but they kept it between them.
Yes, I just realized there were two Ringo albums before that one. I defer to the Beatlemaniac Expert! By the way that song Six O'Clock, even though it's not in the Ringo songbook as it should be, is in the Paul McCartney songbook on Red Rose Speedway which I own also -- even though that song is not on Red RoseSpeedway! But I'm glad I found it somewhere back in the day before the internet, because I'm not good at figuring out chords by ear and back then it was very difficult to find music scores especially for an obscure song like that.
Thanks for the acknowledgment!
I have a lot of Beatles songbooks and one of McCartneyās called Composer Artist (1981) Itās not in there, but I did find it in The New Songs Of George, Paul & Ringo. Thereās no date on the songbook, but I donāt think any song it it is newer than 1974.You're welcome! Could you look at the The New Songs Of George, Paul & Ringo song book when you have a moment and tell me if Too Many People is there, and more importantly, does it have the unusual chords at the very end of the song when the song spins out on an electric guitar solo? I have the official Ram songbook, has lots of cool drawings and photos probably by Linda and Paul, and also has a few notes by Paul inside. However, the musical notation is not complete, and just does not have those final chords in that song. I remember years ago finding those chords notated on a page that seemed to be related to the maccaboard, but I can't find it anymore. It was like a list of McCartney songs showing all their chords. It was the only place in some 40 years that I was able to find those elusive chords. I should have done a screenshot, but that was before I knew how to do that...
