JoeySmith:

Give My Regards to Broadstreet is unlistenable to my ears. I like the title tune but the rest of the original songs are banal & the covers - what was the point?? All McCartney albums, despite varying quality, are creative & interesting. This is the only one that it seemed he didnt even try to do something new.

"No More Lonely Nights". "Not Such A Bad Boy" and "No Values" are all equally AWESOME!!!!! Those 3 should have been put together with the best tracks off PIPES OF PEACE to make a solid record.

The thing about Paul is that even on his worst solo songs there is something good in everyt hing he does..The main problem with him was that he didn't finish a lot of songs lyrically speaking... He's even admitted it.. I always think of "Freedom", the original premise is great but the damn song needs one more solid verse..it's half baked...Same with "Backwards Traveller", the song leaves you wanting more and he ends it prematurely.. "Darkroom" is another example, I love the sound ouf it and his voice on it but it needs words!!! "Summer's Day Song" feels the same way to me.. "To You " should have been a classic Paul track, it rocks like a mother and his vocals kick ass but it needed lyrics!!!! The only track that's I could never figure out was "Tug Of Peace", great idea but it was obvious that was a complete sticker in the first 15 seconds..The only thing Paul needs a producer for is for someone to be honest with him cause no one is gonna be perfect everytime, but he is capable himself of producing great work STILL!!!

Macsback:

herc:

lazydynamite88:

i think your all going way overboard on 'mccartneyII'. okay theres some nice moments,but there is on every mccartney releases. its a seriously flawed album that is almost impossible to play all the way through. 'summers day song' is a nice moment but its hardly a song. 'coming up' was a good single.'waterfalls' is nice enough and 'one of these days' is alright.'temp sec' is pretty decent but annoying. however thats it.the rest is totall garbage of the highest order. a strong contender for the worst ever mccartney album.a very strong contender.

coming up was a good single ,no it was an epic singles

Coming Up is one of the few singles i dont like, never have and never will

The fact that it went #1 here in the USA for 3 weeks and that I loved it and obviously according to multiple sources John Lennon loved it so much proves it's worth.. It helped John get back in the studio..I think the quote from the Fred Seaman book was "John cheerfully exclaimed"it's driving me crackers".. and he kept singing it...Jack Douglas, John's producer from DOUBLE FANTASY echoed the same statements.. Lyrically it's a complete track with great words..no filler and album version was funky..awesome. and was one of Billboards top 10 songs of 1980....

LP_Quagmire:

luigiram:

Bruce M.:

3-way tie between Pipes of Peace, McCartney II and Wild Life. Each album has a couple saving graces, but 3/4 at least of each is just not any good. Following close behind (cue the howls of outrage) is Ram, 1/3 of which is pretty good (e.g. Too Many People, Heart of the Country, Eat at Home), but most of the rest of which is just cringe-inducing. Yeah, I know lots of Paul fans adore this album, but I'd rather have my fingernails ripped out with pliers than listen to "Uncle Albert" or "Long Haired Lady."

Bruce, i'm with you on PIPES OF PEACE and MCCARTNEY II, but WILD LIFE is an awesome record..DRIVING RAIN is in my bottom 3 and I like a lot of tracks on that record...After reading that MCCARTNEY II was really like the first FIREMAN record, i'm looking at it differently.

An album with "Mumbo," "Bip Bop," and "I Am Your Singer" is "awesome" but DRIVING RAIN scrapes the bottom 3??? Also, I don't see a FIREMAN connection with McCARTNEY II since Youth was not involved in its creation.

The thing about WILD LIFE is that the title track, "Tommorow", "Dear Friend" and "Some People Never Know" are OUTSTANDING and definately FIRST RATE!!! "Love Is Strange " is better than the original and "Mumbo" is an awesome bit of nonsense with great vocals and an awesome guitar riff... The record was recorded and mixed in 3 days.

Bruce M.:

3-way tie between Pipes of Peace, McCartney II and Wild Life. Each album has a couple saving graces, but 3/4 at least of each is just not any good. Following close behind (cue the howls of outrage) is Ram, 1/3 of which is pretty good (e.g. Too Many People, Heart of the Country, Eat at Home), but most of the rest of which is just cringe-inducing. Yeah, I know lots of Paul fans adore this album, but I'd rather have my fingernails ripped out with pliers than listen to "Uncle Albert" or "Long Haired Lady."

Bruce, i'm with you on PIPES OF PEACE and MCCARTNEY II, but WILD LIFE is an awesome record..DRIVING RAIN is in my bottom 3 and I like a lot of tracks on that record...After reading that MCCARTNEY II was really like the first FIREMAN record, i'm looking at it differently.

[quote="maribeatlecrazy"]I remeber reading somewhere a quote by George in which he said that Paul's records should be sold in supermarkets, next to soap powder. : The worst thing about it all is that this resentment went on for years and years... John could say even worse things, but he never failed to admit when he was wrong and tried to mend his mistakes. Something else I'd like to add: everybody praises All Things Must Pass for being the first triple album in history and are all like: "OMG! Look at how many songs John and Paul kept George from showing!!" I bought the album back in the late 1988 and it bored me.. There are some great songs on it but it bored the shite outta me. Paul's album's never bore me his resentment did get worse overtime, whereas John's subsided considerably.

CMackbird:

luigiram:

SusyLuvsPaul:

Still a bit mystified by this topic. I wracked my brains and still can't recall any examples of George bad mouthing Paul, and there are supposed to be so many. And I've read a mountain of Beatle books and articles. You guys must be exaggerating a lot. Course out of all that material I read nobody could remember a great deal or even much of it, unless they have a photographic memory.

Suzy, here is an example on You Tube,

, granted the ahole interviewer baited him a bit, but he got a kick out of it too...

Ive seen that before but forgot how snide & vile George comes across in that video. George was talented but his jealousy shows through in that so much. I mean George has wrote some good music but he's not even in the same Galaxy as Paul. Admin Edit: Please Note: Certain previous posts have been removed from this thread. We ask that all members treat each other with respect without resorting to insults and name calling. Please respect each other's opinions and do not resort to group intimidation of members. Anyone continuing to conduct themselves in this way will receive a Warning. See the Forum Guidelines for clarity if unsure: http://maccaboard.paulmccartney.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=14764 thanks, Admin

Make no mistake about it, he interviewer was a weasel, but George didn't beat around the bush.. First off that comment about running out of good songs of his own is crap!!! and George knew that it was, gave him a good giggle didn't it?? Some people attribute it to his sense of humor but I found him arrogant and condescending .. after all George was the first ex Beatle to tour and in a 12 song set sang a Lennon/McCartney cover and a Dylan cover..so guess who didnt have enough good songs

CMackbird:

Macsback:

high_wilusa:

Yeah but to be honest I can't see much in George's criticism that is at all useful. I don't think it was a good, even if harsh, kind of criticism, I think it came from a place of jealousy/resentment.

your spot on with your jealousy/resentment comment, George may have wrote, Something, WMGGW etc but no way does that put him in the same bracket as Lennon & McCartney, his continuing pettiness towards Macca, long after The Beatles split, was that of a man, who as you say, was jealous, the question we've got to ask ourselves is, why didnt he show the same resentment in public towards John? could it be that he jumped on the "lets slag off Paul bandwagon" and didnt know how to get back off again? it must have fecked him right off when he had to kowtow and do the Beatles Anthology, Paul done the project for all the right reasons while George had no choice but to do it because of his money troubles. The main thing is, all four Beatles eventually made peace with each other, the John/Paul feud was over after a few years and if it wasnt for Yoko, I have no doubt, The Beatles would have done something together again. Yoko even to this day, still likes to stick the boot into Macca, personally I wouldnt give that woman light of day on this site. on finishing, I can understand George having some resentment towards Paul, considering they were mates before meeting John, its probably not a nice feeling being pushed into the background and this more than likely bugged George for years, my only gripe about it all, is, he (George) kept it going far to long and its to Paul's credit, he never openly came out to defend himself by slagging his old mates off.

Good post Macs...I reckon without Yoko John & Paul would have been a lot closer again in the 70s and possibly even writing again. They were best friends at the end of the day. That's Paul for you, it shows his class for not slagging folk off in public and that s the way it should be. At the end of the day without Paul George wouldn't have been a beatle.

Right on CM, even listen to John and Yoko during this clip talking about Paul and Wild Life from 1972 and John isn't snide or looking to kick Paul in the head like George liked to in the previous video I posted, he was straight forward and really respectful and it shows.. he wasn't baited

SusyLuvsPaul:

Still a bit mystified by this topic. I wracked my brains and still can't recall any examples of George bad mouthing Paul, and there are supposed to be so many. And I've read a mountain of Beatle books and articles. You guys must be exaggerating a lot. Course out of all that material I read nobody could remember a great deal or even much of it, unless they have a photographic memory.

Suzy, here is an example on You Tube,

, granted the ahole interviewer baited him a bit, but he got a kick out of it too...

Randy, i didn't start this thread to demean George Harrison in anyway!!! I love George Harrison as i'm sure most of us do on this site. However it always pissed me off as to how critical and nasty he was to Paul in interviews etc over the years... It's true and on video and in print. For a guy who was so religious and forgiving to guys like EC after stealing his wife he was pretty petty towards Paul for being a perfectionist in the studio..To me bottom line, he resented Paul for his relationship with John..He wanted to be John's musical partner.. John more or less blew him off whenever he recorded a song during the latter Beatle years and Paul helped him on EVERY SINGLE TRACK!!!! His contributions were obvious.. Listen to the Anthology about how he and John became "equals" and more or less estranged from Paul and Ringo after the LSD episode and how "JOhn would have been a Wilbury in a second"... Everything was about John to him.. and John loved him but Paul was his choice and it was clear even after the split, the respect and love John had for Paul. Oh and for the record, i don't buy that crap that George pinched songs.. but Paul's influence on "Here Comes The Sun" and "Something" are undeniable!!