I'll pass on Ringo this time around, as I have seen him 4-5 times over the years. His "all stars" he currently has dont measure up to his first few all star bands. Not even close.
Posts made by Maccaroni1974
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RE: Ringo and All Starr Band in Kansas City - 9/3/2018
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RE: 2018 Tour rehearsals in Quebec City
That leaves about 8 or so days of rehearsals. Probably not even that many days, as I doubt Paul wants to sing every single day up to show day. Needs to rest the pipes before the first gig.
Not exactly tons of time to shakeup the setlist and rehearse.
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RE: Set List critique
Its Paul's own fault that he has become a tribute band. In 89 and 93 he played a good amount of new stuff from his current albums, and the obligatory Beatles stuff.
After Chaos and Creation came around that was it. In all honesty, I wasnt too keen on the "NEW" album sans a few songs, and the few tunes I've heard off of "Egypt Station" haven't exactly had me begging for more. In fact I've listened to the 3 new songs that are available, and have a grand total of 2 listens each. Underwhelmed to say the least.
I'd love to see him throw the audience a curve and open with something like "Get Out Of My Way"(will never happen), but I'm sure he we will "Beatle us" with the first song. If he caters so much for the first timers, whats the point for us repeat customers?!?! He's been playing for over 50 years most people have had the chance to see him at one point or another. Time to start catering to the hardcore fans a bit. Even if it is a 5 song section in the middle of the show where he announces "This is for all you hardcore fans" would be fine.
And do we really need to still have a George tribute 17 years later?!? I get it for the 02-03 tours, and maybe a tour or two after. Now?!? Seems misplaced a bit.
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RE: Paul's website regarding ticket presales is VERY misleading.
RADIANCE wrote:
What in the world?! SO it's "fixed" now?! This is so unfair and wrong. If TM made a mistake, they should have sent an email out and arranged to have the pre-sale another day after people were notified. So they just put the fanclub presale tickets up hours after they were supposed to go on sale. Were we supposed to wait at our computers and hope that someone fixed their mistake?! I'm so upset. Now there are no good seats left for Greenville. I wish I would have seen this post hours ago.
Greenville has tons of seats left. From front row to nosebleeds to in between. What exactly are you looking for!?!?
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RE: Regular pre-sale now working
What show were you looking for? There a plenty left.
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RE: Regular pre-sale now working
There are quite a few(expensive) seats remaining for all shows that had presales today. There are also some "cheapies" left as well. For those who couldnt get in this morning, or those who complain they never get good seats or are shut out. They are there for the taking. Go grab them!
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RE: Paul's website regarding ticket presales is VERY misleading.
benglund@kirklandinc.com wrote:
What is the difference between the "Internet Presale" and the Tickets that go on sale to the General Public?
Do you need a pass code for the Internet Presale?
Presale happens before the onsale. Thats why its called a presale.
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RE: Paul is the only one who can stop this ticket rip-off
The website was misleading in terms of the PM.com presale. Fortunately, i do have an AMEX. I got 3rd row for Molineon the hot seat VIP, and 15th row floor for Madiosn NON-vip. It took a few minutes but tix finally started to pop up. Good luck to all.
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RE: Paul is the only one who can stop this ticket rip-off
Nancy R wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
Ricky_Raccoon wrote:
Jock Tamson wrote:
Too late for affect tickets for Paul's upcoming shows, but this is really good news:
Ticketmaster to close resale sites Seatwave and Get Me In https://blog.ticketmaster.co.uk/hq/resale-39720
It just means you'll see ticketmaster offering more "platinum tickets" and more will end up on stub hub. It's just the way the concert industry works these days and there's no way of changing it.
Bands doing VIP packages is really the same thing. Sure you get some extra merch and you might get to watch sound check from half way back the arena floor like in Paul's case, but it costs pennies on the dollar to the artist yet they just turned a 150 dollar ticket in to an 800 dollar ticket yet we are all ok with that. It's just one big business vs another.
I would not pay the money for any of these VIP packages but to each their own. It would annoy the heck out of me to pay the big bucks and be halfway back in the arena. My goodness, if people were say 10 rows from the stage would they really interfere with the work going on onstage. Finally, if there was not a market for these VIP packages the bands would not being doing it.
You are not halfway back in the arena during SC. You are behind the first section, so about 25 rows back.
There are only about 50 rows on the floor. So that WOULD be half way back
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RE: New World Tour 1993
Saw him in Milwaukee that tour. Pouring rain. Played a ton of new songs which is good, though I am not a big fan of that album. Voice was perfect, good crowd considering the weather.
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RE: Paul to play secret gig in Liverpool
Jam
20 Flight Rock
Magical Mystery
Jet
All My Loving
Letting Go
Come On To Me
Let Me Roll It
I Got A Feeling
My Valentine
Queenie Eye
1985
Lady Madonna
In Spite Of All The Danger
Things We Said Today
Confidante
Love Me Do
Who Cares
Birthday
I Wanna Be Your Man
Fuh You
Get Back
Ob La Di
Band On The Run
Hi Hi Hi
Saw Her Standing There
Sgt Peppers
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RE: Paul at Abbey Road Studios today 23rd July 2018
So much for a fresh setlist lol. Other than the brand new songs and "909" not much different.
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RE: is John or Paul singing this?
The famous "aaaahhhh" after Paul sings "went into a dream" Some say its Paul, some say it's John. Geoff Emerick says it's John, yet some swear he is wrong? I think George Martin once commented it was Johna as well, though I could be mistaken.
I always thought it was John. It's featured in his "Imagine" documentary as well.
Has Paul or Ringo for that matter ever commented on it?
People who say it is Paul used the "Lovely Rita" intro as a reference. Thats a much higher octave IMO.
Thoughts??
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RE: Paul is the only one who can stop this ticket rip-off
rhinehart@sky.com wrote:
I can see that this is obviously a problem. Yes, I got the name of Paul's company wrong but the rush one person had to point this out was point scoring when another issue was at stake. Also somebody kept mentioning 'using a computer correctly'. This is rather patronising to those of us that can use a computer quite well. The general tone seems to be that if others can make it fair then Paul can do the same. Let's not forget how vast his empire actually is and how little it would actually take to divert resources. He would still get his money (but for most of us it's the fairness of the operation and not how much he earns).
Wouldn't it be better to fill an audience full of fans rather than those who are there to tick it off on there 'been to' list.
Is Paul too allof or detached to respond (through age or otherwise) I just don't know. I do know how much I love his work, how much he has played a part in my music and life and feel it is a shame that he doesn't put a variety of solutions in place.
P.S. My new album is out on 17th August. It's called Welcome to Smugville and is free because I've always thought getting stuff to fans was the most important part of the process.
His audience seems to be full of fans, judging by the standing ovation he gets practically after every song.
This happens almost every tour. Some people don't get the tix they wanted, and blame Paul and everybody else like spoiled entitled children.
Again, I don't think a man pushing 80, with a large family, and is constantly traveling, worries too much about the ticket process. Again, judging by the crowd, it doesn't seem there are too many "look at me" people in the audience. Most seem to be a fan of at least some portion of his work.
Good luck with your "album", and getting it to your "fan(s)"
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RE: THE 'FRESHEN UP' TOUR 2018
100% correct Bob. I am happy the other poster got a meet and greet with Roger. He was probably 1 of maybe 2 people who requested that for that show. Paul would literally have to meet thousands of people per show if he were to be so "humble". And yes, if Roger was on the level of Paul's popularity he would be charging an arm and a leg as well.
I saw Mick Taylor(guitariist for the Stones during their golden years) solo in a club years ago. Humble guy. Signed autographs after the gig.
That same Mick Taylor re-joined the Stones from 2012-2014, and played a handful of songs nightly with them. Needless to say I could never got to interact with him the way I did when I saw him solo.(For $30 FYI) WHY?!?! Because he was with the Rolling F-ing Stones thats why!. Those tickets were $750 a pop!
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RE: THE 'FRESHEN UP' TOUR 2018
Bob Gannon wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
Bob Gannon wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
Bob Gannon wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
Bob Gannon wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
It would be lengthy, but I thoroughly approve of the ID'ing process. At least one member of the concert-going party could have a receipt in addition to their ticket(s) that verifies which tickets were purchased by that person and that they are in fact together as a party, with matching ID to suit. It's a shame it has come to this. The folks that actually pay these outlandish prices, officially and un-officially are ultimately the ones to blame though.
It's like that everywhere in the entertainment/ sports industry. They charge their prices because the market supports it. Doesn't matter what fan bought it, it would be sold as long as people wanted to sit closer to Paul. And there is a never ending number of them. So while I understand people's disappointment, for many years of seeing Paul I could only afford or get crappy seats and at the times was happy to get them at all. But now at 53 years old when I can finally afford to treat myself and buy VIP tickets for better seats, I will certainly not apologize for that. I paid my dues! And even in the lean years many times if you wanted closer tickets you had to pay exhorbinant prices to scalpers and then later eBay and StubHub , etc......
nothing has changed except now the artist is getting the money.
Exactly. It's fan-fueled and the artists crave the cash. There's no turning back.
Newsflash, Artists always craved the cash and now with music sales scuttling, touring is where they make the bulk of their money. I doubt you've ever gone into to work and told your boss not to pay you or pay you less
It's disappointing to see that as a the main concern for too many in the final stage of their life. An example of someone swimming against the curve, is Roger Hodgson. I'll be seeing him at the Maryland Hall in Annapolis tomorrow night. His venues hold probably about 10% of Paul's yet with ticket prices typically ranging from $50-$100 as a flat rate (usually not tiered pricing). He often carries a band with him, or sometimes goes solo. He has minimal merchandise and the pricing is not inflated. The Supertramp CD's are the same price as what you would pay in a record store etc. This will be the third time I have seen him. The first time I saw him, I contacted his manager with requests of a meet and greet which she happily obliged to at no additional cost. Roger took his own time after his own show to talk to me for about ten to fifteen minutes about MY musical goals and attributes. I was amazed by his interest in my life. He kindly signed and personalized my program including "Let your heart guide your song -Roger Hodgson".
Some would call this bad business. I consider it humility and compassion to the highest degree. If Roger Hodgson can afford to make decisions such as those described above, and still live and exceptionally wealthy lifestyle, I think Paul McCartney can advocate for his fans in the ticket-buying process. Paul McCartney could never perform another concert for the rest of his days and make more money sitting absolutely still than I can after working my ass off for a year.
I would call it neither, I would call it a performer nowhere near the reputation and a much lower tier performer. He plays small venues because he can no longer fill large ones. His ticket prices are where they are so that he can continually perform for decent sized crowds. If he charged much more even those small venues would be empty. I like Roger Hodgson but to compare him to Paul at this stage of his career is laughable. To try to turn a declining performer who even at the very top of his game not in the same level as McCartney into a hero for not charging high prices when in fact not many would pay much more to see them, a very foolish argument. Why not use the local bar band that has a $2 cover charge? Had you used somebody like Bruce Springsteen, you would have made somewhat of an argument but not with Hodgson. It's actually quite funny
I appreciate your input on this forum and you've been a great help to me in the past, so I'd like to make it clear I'm not attempting to argue here, merely clarify. That being said, I was comparing character not popularity. If you measure someone's musical "game" by how many seats they can fill, then we have different defitinions of musicality. I'm also not sure what these "levels" are that you refer to. Musicians are people...not sports teams that we compare stats to. If we were to consider musicality for a moment, Roger Hodgson's voice hasn't aged. He truly sounds just like the record. He's also a far more accomplished keyboardist than McCartney. They're about equals on guitar and of course, Hodgson wouldn't have an ounce of his songwriting skills if not for Lennon and McCartney. This is also keeping in mind that Sir Paul has eight years on Roger. But ultimately, I find it quite rude to consider him a "declining performer" when he sounds more authentic to his albums on stage than Paul does at this point. It's almost like the blind allegiance that Sinatra attained into the '90's when the ship had clearly sailed. The power of a performer's delivery is not defined by the size of their venue. I would only place Hodgson behind Billy Joel and Elton John (and of course McCartney) if I were considering the performances that have had the greatest emotional impacts on me through the display of their catalog and skills in performing it on stage
I'm looking to argue either but I guess the same way you take issue with some of my wording, I do to yours as well. You make it sound that because Roger Hodgson charges less money that he is somewhat morally superior or being of better character. When I say " Declining Performer" , it means a performer that is no longer maintaining mainstream popularity and relegated to smaller venue shows. If Roger could sell out stadiums, he would be doing it. For me, that term does not mean that his musical skill or singing voice is inferior. In fact, everytime I've seen Roger, I've been very happy with his performance. But whether you like it or not, the underlying factor of them going out on tour is to earn a living and make money. Their professional status and the amount of people that he can draw to those events dictate the size of venue that they play and the price of the tickets that they can charge. I think his playing and singing are still excellent.
and when I mention "levels" it is meant as level s of popularity which translates in the amount of people he can draw to any given concert. While with Supertramp, the reached very impressive, short term popularity. Many people that I know would not know him just by his name, but say Supertramp and then many would. Even at the height of Supertramp's popularity, they never achieved the heights of Paul, Elton , Billy And many others and definitely not their sustained desire by their fans in masses to see them live
And while popularity does not define the level of musicality or talent, neither is what's I am measuring. If there is no audience interest, then Roger or any other performer would not be doing concerts . And I definitely respect the fact that his shows have personally touched you. I get that, one of the best shows I've been to was Joe Brown who in his 80's is now relegated to even smaller venues than Roger. But it was one of the most charming and entertaining performances I've seen. Of course others may disagree because music I see a personal thing.
i agree with you that size of venue or even current popularity have anything to do with talent, musicality or the power of their particular performance. But those things have everything to do with what's size vEnue that they can book and the ticket prices that they can charge. There is no moral superiority because the charge less, this is not their noble cause. It is no omage to the fans. If their promoter thought they could charge the money Paul does and play to large venues where lots of people will pay those fees, they would. That's the plain and simple truth.
Every year tours or shows are cancelled due to lack of sales. Early 2000's , ELO had to cancel a US tour sales went totally flat. I know, I had tickets.
if you had used Bruce Springsteen as your example, it would have been a better measuring stick as his popularity, catalog and length duration is somewhat close. While his Broadway tickets are very expensive, most tours, even the last one, most tickets are under $150.....they used to be $75 for most seats. While he could have garnered much more, he did make an effort to stay affordable on purpose. Difference is though, Bruce is still doing massive world tours during the course of the year while Paul is no longer engaged in that. Paul has many more moving parts while Bruce prefers a very stripped down show.
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RE: Paul is the only one who can stop this ticket rip-off
Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
Yankeefan2 wrote:
WixRocks wrote:
This is all easily traceable back to the greed some of us were attempting to discuss in another thread. Paul simply doesn't care. He walks out with his cool million and a guarantee of a packed house no matter what...and he isn't the only one. It will never change. These big rock legends have about another decade MAX of this level of activity and popularity so they're going to soak it up for the rest of their lives.
Too bad these rock legends don't do what JK Rowlings has done to try and prevent scalpers from getting tickets to Harry Potter show in London. My family will be going to London and see it in December and you don't even get a ticket. You go to the box office the day/evening of the show to get ticket and need to show proof of purchase and photo id of the person who bought the tickets. I will also mention this show is reasonably priced especially when you compare it to seeing "Hamilton" in NYC.
Another excellent option! They simply don't care.
You are right, they are getting their money and that is all that matters. They know there is a market out there that will let them charge anything they want and will sell out. Does anybody really think the McCartney team cares about the fans on this board getting to see him in concert? I truly understand an artist wanting to make money but in his case he is a billonaire and can afford to make the prices more reasonable and still make a nice profit. In addition, think of the money he makes in merchandising when you are selling a t-shirt for $35-$50. Also, it seems to me he makes a bit of money (lol) on his sound check package and people are not even very close to the stage.
Once again, I will give major credit to JK Rowlings. She took real control of her show and has a system where real fans are going and at affordable price for theater. I believe she knows with the prices she charges she will still make quite a bit of money and that is not even including the amount of merchandise that is sold for the shows. She has proven it can be done, I wish others would follow her lead.
The man is pushing 80 years old. I highly doubt he stays up at night worrying about how tickets are sold. He has a fee, and promoters charge a price they need to, to cover his fee and make money. Paul gets his $$$ regardless of 1 ticket being sold, or all tickets sold.
This ridiculous whining is so over the top and ridiculous by the "adults" here. Tickets were readily available for all to purchase, so as long as you can use a computer properly, and read basic instructions. Embarrassing to compare ticket sales to his show to Harry Potter LOL.
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RE: Paul is the only one who can stop this ticket rip-off
rhinehart@sky.com wrote:
Once again we find that tickets for the shows sell out in seconds (often before the published launch time) pre-sale on various websites (here and Amex) are nowhere to be seen, and suddenly they turn up at inflated prices on external sites.
Surely a company such as MPC can put together the muscle to make sure that the fans are not overlooked (perhaps they could have emailed fans who were near venues (100 miles or so and offered them first shout),. Perhaps it could have been organised through this site and not ticketmaster. Somebody with a brain far bigger than mine should have the answer.
I'm lucky that I got a ticket (also saw him in London last time) but what a struggle for the real fans.
There was no ripoff. People need to cool out, and learn how to use a computer properly, and read instructions properly. I got through no problem for Canada, and Liverpool.
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RE: Solo works ranked
Nancy R wrote:
wingsoverkc wrote:
The Plastic Ono Band is in no way on this planet a better album than Band On The Run. And to prove I'm not a complete McCartney fan, I do agree that All Things Must Pass is a brilliant lp and deserves #1.
Totally agree with you!
Completely disagree. POB is the best Beatles related work by any of them. In many ways it's better than any Beatles album. Raw,gritty,unapologetic,honest,un-commercial,un-censored,and 100% un-"poppy".