A bootleg, I'm afraid.
Posts made by Paulie H
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RE: Mull of Kintyre and Nottingham Forest FC
Rather entertainingly, someone has brought the use of Mull of Kintyre to the attention of our beloved songsmith. He has apparently offered to play at the City Ground if Forest get promoted. Clearly, he knows there's no chance of that happening any time soon! http://www.nottinghampost.com/Nottingham-Forest-fans-hope-Sir-Paul-McCartney/story-25778221-detail/story.html
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RE: Press to Play
edcrawf:
Paulie H:
There actually ARE two versions of PTP. I don't mean formats, or the original and 1993 McCartney Collection edition. When it came out, both LP and CD were pressed with different mixes of Press. One version featured the 4:20 Hugh Padgham mix (that appeared on the 10" single and, in abbreviated form, on the 7" single). The other version featured the 4:40 Bevans/Forward mix that was used on the 12" single. You can't tell which version appears on which copy because the covers were never amended but you can tell from the matrix numbers.
What?!?!?!? How can I tell and which matrix #? Sorry just such a geek for this album.
Sorry it's taken me so long to reply. I'm an infrequent visitor here. Here's the relevant paragraph extracted from my own Guide to Paul McCartney Recording Variations: For vinyl, in order differentiate each pressing visually, collectors will need to determine the matrix numbers: - First pressing, using mix b - side one: PCSD 103 A-1U-1-2, side two: PCSD 103 B-7-1-1- - Second pressing, using mix a - side one PCSD 103 A-2U-1-1-, side two: PCSD 103 B-3U-1-2-1 Both versions were also manufactured and issued on CD in the UK. Again, the artwork was never amended to reflect this. It would appear that there are several variants of the matrix number for each: - First pressing, using mix b - CDP 746269-2@2 - Second pressing, using mix a - CDP 746269-2@4+5+, CDP 746269-2.@4+6+3+, CDP 746269-2.@4:6:6 + The only consistency is the use of ?@2? after the core number for the Bevans/Forward version and ?@4? for the Padgham version. Advice for collectors would be to check the track timing rather than rely on matrix numbers. It would appear, however, that the pressings featuring the single mix were not issued at all in the US.[/list]
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RE: Press to Play
There actually ARE two versions of PTP. I don't mean formats, or the original and 1993 McCartney Collection edition. When it came out, both LP and CD were pressed with different mixes of Press. One version featured the 4:20 Hugh Padgham mix (that appeared on the 10" single and, in abbreviated form, on the 7" single). The other version featured the 4:40 Bevans/Forward mix that was used on the 12" single. You can't tell which version appears on which copy because the covers were never amended but you can tell from the matrix numbers.
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RE: Where do u get your info and your McCartney fix
I get all my info from the Steve Hoffman Music Forum. There are some very knowledgeable people there, some who know people who know...
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
*Perry*:
I didn't give my money to no grotty website. I am happy. Nobody called me any kind of a member either.
Well done you. Now, tell me: how does that help anyone exactly?
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
How's about MPL sending each non-US Premium member a copy of the new Christmas Kisses single, seeing as they couldn't be bothered giving it an official release over here? Now, THAT would be nice.
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
walliebaby:
nigel.thrillington:
Those Wings shirts that were supposed to be in the store a while back would be a cool thing to put in the goodie bag. or 50% off some stuff in the store for cyber Monday would be cool
I think most of us are expecting some physical goodies (Please take note of that, MPL!), and that would be a perfect gift to get!
I'm not bothered about physical product, I want something unique. I'd much prefer it to be audio or video, but it doesn't have to be physical
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
walliebaby:
maccascruff:
Now you expect us to buy Kisses in a third format? Will not be happening at my house.
I know. For an animal rights activist, he sure likes beating that dead horse. ETA: THIS should have been the free download to make up for the rip-off of Premium Members, not the DVD. This is just one more way to rip us off.
Absolutely. But even then, it's only a rehash of what we've already got with one new song and one alternative version thrown in...
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RE: Remasters schedule is a joke.
I agree that the schedule has been frustratingly slow but at this point in time I'd rather have new projects than rehashes of old albums every time. McCartney ain't gonna be with us forever but remasters of old albums can happen with or without him. Right now, I'd lock him in a studio and not let him leave until he drops
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
glass_0ni0n:
I think with all the overblown senses of entitlement and outrage expressed on this thread, he'll have been made aware of what the general mood is and will have decided on a course of action. Some people who signed up very recently definitely have grounds to be upset but I understand they're being refunded from some of the posts on here. The rest of us need to get a sense of perspective. No-one made us buy these premium memberships. And people seeking physical copies of the downloads we were given, or generally griping, you don't have to take the downloads. It's a choice. There's no pleasing everyone, but I for one appreciate the gesture.
I really don't agree with this sentiment. It's not about having an "overblown sense of entitlement" - it's about spending REAL money on something that was promised but never delivered. Remember, the WHOLE hype was about getting access to McCartney's archive, as uploaded to his Cloud. Here's a quote from Sean Murdock, posted at stevehoffman.tv: "As you said, the possibilities were "extraordinary" so I signed up for "Premium Membership" -- heck, I was a "Pioneer" member on top of that! The insult added to the injury -- which I haven't seen mentioned here yet -- is that they told us "Premium" members that our first year of membership would basically "reboot" when they went out of beta and launched the "final" site. So, we basically helped fund their test period, allowing them to decide to dustbin the whole thing on our dime. The "Live Kisses" download was nice, and the "Live in L.A." album (with 2 unreleased tracks) was better still, but I didn't sign up for this only for "free" stuff -- I was hoping to be starting a unique and rewarding long-time relationship with Paul's archive through this website. A few tossed crumbs won't make up for the loss of that promise." The bit I'll draw your attention to is the "starting a unique and rewarding long-time relationship with Paul's archive". THAT'S what I signed up for, the rest was merely flotsam and jetsam. It looks like all we're getting now is the flotsam and jetsam.
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
At this point, I'd settle for something we've never had digitally before, like the Movin' On documentary or the 1986 McCartney Special.
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
maccascruff:
Give us something we do not have and give it to us in physical format. I really don't want downloads.
We is wastin' our breath, innit?
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
I notice that MPL have offered an extended version of the Daily Mail freebie "Live in Los Angeles" CD. As someone who bought a copy of the original, this is of little interest, but I'm sure there are many who don't have access to eBay and weren't able to get a copy of the original CD, for whom this download will be fun : I sense MPL are REALLY trying to give us something without giving us something.
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
This stuff about the paid membership creating first and second class fans is nonsense. It's a product: you either pay for it or you don't. It's like arguing that having to pay for an album creates second class fans. I'm sorry for those who can't afford such luxuries, but that doesn't make them wrong or unfair.
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
BeatleBAH:
It would be nice as a "thank you" to Premium fans, if you provided something that isn't and will not be available to the public.
To MPL: And no, I won't be downloading Live Kisses. I don't want a poor substitute for the real thing, I shall buy the DVD WITH BOOK when it comes out. In the meantime, I await further news of your proposed redress.
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
I've been critical so far, and remain angry about the lack of value for money, but I will say a heartfelt "well done" to the website manager for reinstating the social networking functions. Personally, I have no use for them and am not remotely interested, but it's clear to see that many are. I'll say this again though: I DON'T consider a download of Live Kisses to be an acceptable "gift". I'd wager that very few here would buy Live Kisses on download in preference to on DVD or blu-ray and I think MPL knows this, which is why they're offering it. If MPL thinks that offering a "gift" that they know no-one wants is a good way to say "thank you", then they're stooping really low. We all know that the "thank you" email was PR speak for "we apologise" but any thank you/apology has to be sincere and the current offer (granted, we don't know what else we may get) does NOT appear to me to be a sincere effort to make up the loss. Now, a voucher to redeem in the website store: THAT would be very acceptable. It would, at the very least, allow me to buy the format of Live Kisses I want, rather than offering me a format they'd take an educated guess that I won't like.
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
tintin:
Well, further to the YouTube link that someone posted about the HP link up with Paul I found the link for the one that specifically talks about the website - and it makes very very interesting viewing - the highlights being when they describe what the website will be like - see if some of these descriptions match what we had/have * "Make it totally unique" * "Unprecedented breadth and depth of content for Paul's fans" * "What's going to distinguish this from other major artists websites is that it's going to be very content rich" * "The idea is to intrigue people and bring them into our World...all the stuff we can give that no-one else can give" * "We're trying to push the boundaries in terms of the experience for the fans" *"Fan interaction, they tell you exactly what they need...you create projects to suit their needs" * "The new website is really going to be fascinating, a lot of ideas that won't have been done before" * "The best piece is being innovative" I personally watched all the HP videos and, trusting Paul, spent my money on membership as I was genuinely excited about the website, so I do feel I have been cheated - I do not think it is unique, it does not have unprecedented breadth and depth of content, isn't content rich, isn't intriguing, hasn't pushed the boundaries, hasn't suited my needs, isn't fascinating or innovative and the whole social interaction which they make a big thing of in the video has now gone along with my money, my trust and my faith. And a huge amount of respect..which can't be compensated with a download. Here's the link: http://h10124.www1.hp.com/campaigns/enterprise/mccartney/us/en/paul-mccartney-digital-library-experience.html#nid=powered_by_hp
THIS IS ENTIRELY IT. I don't wish to criticise those who feel that they have nothing to complain about - they're the ones to envy - but I hope that they, and particularly MPL, understand that THIS is why I signed up. It was the promise of SO MUCH additional, unique content. And it is why I feel that I HAVEN'T received what I was promised. Now, I understand that the Live Kisses film WILL be made available free to download for Premium Members so I realise that I'm wasting my breath a little, but I'd like to reinforce that I DON'T consider it to be an acceptable offer. People will fall into two categories: those that didn't enjoy the Kisses project and those that did. The former won't want the download. There's not much MPL can do about that but, even so, there it is. Those that DID enjoy the Kisses project - and bear in mind that I'm talking about those who also paid McCartney £35 up front to be Premium Members - are likely to want a copy of the DVD/blu ray AND BOOK. So, mostly, they too won't actually want the download. That means that for most of us, the download IS NOT an acceptable recompense. A free copy of the DVD/BR would be. Either MPL have made an honest offer without thinking it through, or they know this and have deliberately offered something they know won't hurt sales. I sincerely hope its the former.
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
Ymaginatif:
I, for one, believe that we got value for money. We didn't get an arm, a leg or anything we've all been dreaming of for the last 25 years. But that's not what most websites provide. Although large groups of people, as soon as any kind of money is involved, seem to expect that ...
You REALLY feel as though you got value for money?? Honestly? If so, I have a bunch of photos of McCartney you can come and have a look at for $60 if you want. I mean, you can't KEEP them or anything and I'll only let you look at them for so long before I either show them to everyone else or take them away, but never the less... Also, I'll let you play the albums you undoubtedly already own on your pc if you like. I'm sorry if that sounds sarcastic but I really DON'T feel as though I was given what I was promised (even if, in a literal sense, I was). I also don't think I got enough of what I did get to justify the price. And I think that the admins agreed. Why else would they offer to reset our subscription start dates? I'm genuinely happy for anyone who feels that the money they spent was worth it. I'd much rather people WERE happy. But I'm just not one of them. And it isn't about "moaning about anything" or having unrealistic expectations as soon as money is involved (this isn't aimed at Ymaginatif), it's about putting trust in someone and having that trust abused.
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RE: A Big Thank You From PaulMcCartney.com
Michelley:
gswan:
A total refund would be the honerable thing to do, otherwise, yeh .. Paul fleeced us, the site never got out of BETA mode, paid members were told our subscriptions would begin from that date. Didn't happen, service not provided. Full refund please MPL.
Sorry but I don't see how most pioneers/premium folks here were in any way fleeced. Most people bought premium memberships a year ago. And if you did, you got nearly 12 months of benefit out of the site, beta or not. Pretending you didn't -- especially when so many people are in the midst of complaining about all the premium features they want restored -- makes no sense. "I want my money back! And please bring back the Jukebox -- after you've refunded my money." The only people who deserve a refund are those who signed up in the past few months. The rest of us bought a year-long membership. After nearly a year, it got discontinued. So it lasted as long as you thought it was going to last when you signed up.
This just isn't factually correct. MPL offered us membership which THEY THEMSELVES said would start FROM THE MOMENT THE SITE CAME OUT OF BETA. Consequently, my membership hasn't yet started. The stuff we've had so far has, to my understanding, been provided free. Thus, so far, I HAVEN'T received what I paid for: that is, a year's membership. The ONLY moral and legal response I can see to this is for MPL to either offer me an alternative product equal in value to the cost of the now-cancelled membership or a refund. And I get to choose which. I hope that the webmaster addresses this issue directly because, frankly, if it isn't, I'll be talking to Trading Standards.