The ..2012.... Political thread
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this is what we're talking about....defend this http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002793/
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mustangsally10:
this is what we're talking about....defend this http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002793/
The same (Liberal website) Dailykos who produced their own 'target visual' back in 2008, which also specifically singled out Gabby Giffords in a target bullseye - back when Giffords was a Republican...Guess the poor lady can't win no matter which party she's affiliated with...same exact thing that Sarah did a year later. If anything, we could blame Sarah for being a copy cat, huh
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rich n:
mustangsally10:
this is what we're talking about....defend this http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002793/
The same (Liberal website) Dailykos who produced their own 'target visual' back in 2008, which also specifically singled out Gabby Giffords in a target bullseye - back when Giffords was a Republican...Guess the poor lady can't win no matter which party she's affiliated with...same exact thing that Sarah did a year later. If anything, we could blame Sarah for being a copy cat, huh
give your proof
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mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
this is what we're talking about....defend this http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002793/
The same (Liberal website) Dailykos who produced their own 'target visual' back in 2008, which also specifically singled out Gabby Giffords in a target bullseye - back when Giffords was a Republican...Guess the poor lady can't win no matter which party she's affiliated with...same exact thing that Sarah did a year later. If anything, we could blame Sarah for being a copy cat, huh
give your proof
I'll post a link - but first, you do realize she's a former Republican, right?
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I should not have resorted to vehement name calling and sunk to their level of verbal violence, that's the bummer it's easy to get drawn into it sometime...
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Well, sometimes a little name-callin' can be cathartic. Productive? Not so much. But, damn, it feels good.
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rich n:
mustangsally10:
this is what we're talking about....defend this http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002793/
The same (Liberal website) Dailykos who produced their own 'target visual' back in 2008, which also specifically singled out Gabby Giffords in a target bullseye - back when Giffords was a Republican...Guess the poor lady can't win no matter which party she's affiliated with...same exact thing that Sarah did a year later. If anything, we could blame Sarah for being a copy cat, huh
You got us there, my friend. And congrats on being one of the few conservatives I regularly encounter who makes his points via facts, specifics and actual examples. -- rather than pie-in-the-sky hyperbole. Maybe we can get somewhere in this world of ours. Ours.
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mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
this is what we're talking about....defend this http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002793/
The same (Liberal website) Dailykos who produced their own 'target visual' back in 2008, which also specifically singled out Gabby Giffords in a target bullseye - back when Giffords was a Republican...Guess the poor lady can't win no matter which party she's affiliated with...same exact thing that Sarah did a year later. If anything, we could blame Sarah for being a copy cat, huh
give your proof
Here's a link - the dailykos has also removed their 'target' graphic (just as Sarah did) - thus for now I have an article...but I will come up with a visual in a few minutes (just didn't want to leave you hanging) http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Daily-Kos-Bullseyed-Giffords/2011/01/10/id/382350 One correction on my part - by the time this dailykos published their target visual, Gabby had already changed parties to become a Dem...I speculate , without knowing the whole story' that while Gabby had by then declared herself a Dem, she more or less still rode down the middle and hadn't yet earned her 'stripes' as a Dem.
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rich n:
mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
this is what we're talking about....defend this http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002793/
The same (Liberal website) Dailykos who produced their own 'target visual' back in 2008, which also specifically singled out Gabby Giffords in a target bullseye - back when Giffords was a Republican...Guess the poor lady can't win no matter which party she's affiliated with...same exact thing that Sarah did a year later. If anything, we could blame Sarah for being a copy cat, huh
give your proof
I'll post a link - but first, you do realize she's a former Republican, right?
Giffords wisely became a democrat in 2000 so she was a democrat in 2008 A blue dog democrat who was a popular diarist on daily kos for 2 years. The only thing she was ever targeted for was a primary not exactly a violent threat. Please show your proof
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mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
this is what we're talking about....defend this http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002793/
The same (Liberal website) Dailykos who produced their own 'target visual' back in 2008, which also specifically singled out Gabby Giffords in a target bullseye - back when Giffords was a Republican...Guess the poor lady can't win no matter which party she's affiliated with...same exact thing that Sarah did a year later. If anything, we could blame Sarah for being a copy cat, huh
give your proof
I'll post a link - but first, you do realize she's a former Republican, right?
Giffords wisely became a democrat in 2000 so she was a democrat in 2008 A blue dog democrat who was a popular diarist on daily kos for 2 years. The only thing she was ever targeted for was a primary not exactly a violent threat. Please show your proof
Here ya go - post #8 of a thread at this forum/site (incidentally the facebook page entries by the shooter is in the next post or two below that - I don't think you can read that and actually believe Sarah Palin or anyone else influenced that...and there's some other good reads for you there - it's not Daily KOS, so I don't know if you'll even look at it - if not, your loss): http://www.stripersonline.com/surftalk/showthread.php?t=776872 And not sure what 'proof' you're looking for - the verbiage is the same on both this example and Sarah's...and if you think the Daily KOS's poster was so innocent, then why did they pull it down just the same as Sarah Palin's site? I went there and found the article with the date still listed at the top of page - everything else remains the same except I now only see a red 'x' where the charge was linked in the article. Sounds like they were backpeddling as fast as anyone in this whole story And the first part of your post is subjective and debatable at best
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rich n:
mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
this is what we're talking about....defend this http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002793/
The same (Liberal website) Dailykos who produced their own 'target visual' back in 2008, which also specifically singled out Gabby Giffords in a target bullseye - back when Giffords was a Republican...Guess the poor lady can't win no matter which party she's affiliated with...same exact thing that Sarah did a year later. If anything, we could blame Sarah for being a copy cat, huh
give your proof
Here's a link - the dailykos has also removed their 'target' graphic (just as Sarah did) - thus for now I have an article...but I will come up with a visual in a few minutes (just didn't want to leave you hanging) http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Daily-Kos-Bullseyed-Giffords/2011/01/10/id/382350 One correction on my part - by the time this dailykos published their target visual, Gabby had already changed parties to become a Dem...I speculate , without knowing the whole story' that while Gabby had by then declared herself a Dem, she more or less still rode down the middle and hadn't yet earned her 'stripes' as a Dem.
Daily Kos hasn't scrubbed anything. The link you are probably looking for is here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/25/1204/74882/511/541568 pretty lame false equivalency no visual target here you guys are grasping at straws
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mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
rich n:
mustangsally10:
this is what we're talking about....defend this http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002793/
The same (Liberal website) Dailykos who produced their own 'target visual' back in 2008, which also specifically singled out Gabby Giffords in a target bullseye - back when Giffords was a Republican...Guess the poor lady can't win no matter which party she's affiliated with...same exact thing that Sarah did a year later. If anything, we could blame Sarah for being a copy cat, huh
give your proof
Here's a link - the dailykos has also removed their 'target' graphic (just as Sarah did) - thus for now I have an article...but I will come up with a visual in a few minutes (just didn't want to leave you hanging) http://www.newsmax.com/InsideCover/Daily-Kos-Bullseyed-Giffords/2011/01/10/id/382350 One correction on my part - by the time this dailykos published their target visual, Gabby had already changed parties to become a Dem...I speculate , without knowing the whole story' that while Gabby had by then declared herself a Dem, she more or less still rode down the middle and hadn't yet earned her 'stripes' as a Dem.
Daily Kos hasn't scrubbed anything. The link you are probably looking for is here: http://www.dailykos.com/story/2008/6/25/1204/74882/511/541568 pretty lame false equivalency no visual target here you guys are grasping at straws
They took it down (it was right below the paragraph that starts 'p.s. Four Blue Dogs voted to protect the Constitution' and was exactly the same as what is on the 8th post of the link I posted above) and your delusional if you believe otherwise, and thus just choked off any credibility I misguidingly gave you...thanks for saving me from wasting my time on you going forward - ta
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You must well know that if it was ever on the site there would be a copy on the net somewhere....but it is not there because it never was. yes Palin did scrub her site but here is the visual http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/10/934892/-Palin-aide-claims-crosshairs-werent-gunsights the burden of proof is on you rich n you must really be desperate to put yourself in such situation...pity
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mustangsally10:
You must well know that if it was ever on the **site there would be a copy on the net somewhere....**but it is not there because it never was. yes Palin did scrub her site but here is the visual http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/10/934892/-Palin-aide-claims-crosshairs-werent-gunsights the burden of proof is on you rich n you must really be desperate to put yourself in such situation...pity
LOL - Well how about that (Shock) - Low and behold, it is on the net...and in fact in the link I've posted...and it's been on various news outlets as well...I'm thinking you work for that crazy Daily KOS and is protecting their interest...LOL. You guys could try to run, but you couldn't hide. But whatever, it's there for anyone else to see as they please...meanwhile you can go back to playing your video games or where you get your 'info' (Daily KOS...that's funny )
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for a former governor of a state...of the united states of america...to associate directly or indirectly...crosshairs...with any citizen of the united states...is grossly stupid and lazy...we are supposed to conquer the world with peace love and understanding...and we would...if we weren't so xxxxxxx lazy
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mustangsally10:
You must well know that if it was ever on the **site there would be a copy on the net somewhere....**but it is not there because it never was. yes Palin did scrub her site but here is the visual http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/10/934892/-Palin-aide-claims-crosshairs-werent-gunsights the burden of proof is on you rich n you must really be desperate to put yourself in such situation...pity
LOL - Well how about that (Shock) - Low and behold, it is on the net...and in fact in the link I've posted...and it's been on various news outlets as well...I'm thinking you work for that crazy Daily KOS and is protecting their interest...LOL. You guys could try to run, but you couldn't hide. But whatever, it's there for anyone else to see as they please...meanwhile you can go back to playing your video games or where you get your 'info' (Daily KOS...that's funny )
where on the net? It's not on the link you posted. ....sad
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Really - the last 30 years? I don't even know where to start? Political Correctness (PC) to the point where you're treading a scary line by even acknowledging someone's race, ethnicity, or gender is a leftist trait...The fact that we're becoming a nation who wants to shake Osama Bin Laden's hand and ask for _his_forgiveness is a leftist trait...The fact that we had a Democratic President (Bill Clinton) who sewed the seeds to how real estate (and subsequently the rest of our economy) issues we now face...but blame the following president for not being able to reverse the trends, but then we are asked to forgive this president's shortcomings/failures on the fact that he in turn, inherited this country's problems when took oath - is a leftist trait. The fact that one of the TSA's tactics includes grabbing your crotch while going through airport security is a leftist trait. The fact that you actually have to decline going through the scanner in order to obtain these 'love pats'(a phrase coined by Democrats), and actually making that choice to do so, then getting offended after the fact in the name of blaming of somehow blaming former President Bush for this action is a leftist trait...the fact that Pres Bush only lost control of our economy once he lost the house majority is a lefist trait...and it goes on and on...Oh yeah...one more thing...having had a tragedy just occur and while the wounds are still bleeding and the bodies are still warm, blaming innocent bystanders in the name of a political agenda; and swaying back and forth between trying to blame the said person and trying to blame the other side for averting the attention away from the immediate priority (the health/wellbeing of the victims and families affected by the tragedy)....is a leftist trait. Basically the argument from my point was 'the tragedy is too fresh to get into some of these debates while everyone wants to bash Sara Palin...finally you goad me into saying your argument of blaming Palin is insane and insensitive and you change the topic to 'oh, we should only be worrying about the victims right now (more or less taking up my initial argument to begin with ) Some of 'you' seem to have some sense in that despite showing signs of not wanting anything to do with Sarah Palin, at least acknowledging the tactics used in today's political landscape is often inappropriate -but spreads across both sides of the isle. Then there are some of you that just sounds plain ol' nuts (maybe even being Bin Laden himself with a ambiguous screen name)...then the last few seem like they just want to follow 'Paul McCartney Politics', whatever they are on a given day
Rich: I'll grant you that "PC" went to the extreme at one point. I'll grant you that some liberal-minded folks are directing their horror from this weekend's tragedy at Sarah Palin too ... well ... liberally. However, can you do this for me? List an error or two from any political/social leader on your team. I don't hear conservatives acknowledge the catastrophic blunders made by Republicans enough.* *And by the way: Bill Clinton couldn't have signed that real estate debacle into law if the Republican Congress hadn't passed it.
and, by the way, the president does not need to sign a bill into law because it's passed by congress....it's called a veto.....
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You all stayed pretty calm
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jaipur:
You all stayed pretty calm
peaceful, isn't it ... : : :
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mustangsally10:
You must well know that if it was ever on the **site there would be a copy on the net somewhere....**but it is not there because it never was. yes Palin did scrub her site but here is the visual http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2011/1/10/934892/-Palin-aide-claims-crosshairs-werent-gunsights the burden of proof is on you rich n you must really be desperate to put yourself in such situation...pity
LOL - Well how about that (Shock) - Low and behold, it is on the net...and in fact in the link I've posted...and it's been on various news outlets as well...I'm thinking you work for that crazy Daily KOS and is protecting their interest...LOL. You guys could try to run, but you couldn't hide. Rich -- there is no way to discuss this ( or anything else ) rationally with her. Anyone who believes that sarah palin had anything to do with the killer's actions is delusional. And if they are just saying it without believing it, they are liars. And by the way, I am no fan of Sarah palin or the tea party. But I am a fan of the truth. Thanks for the research. But whatever, it's there for anyone else to see as they please...meanwhile you can go back to playing your video games or where you get your 'info' (Daily KOS...that's funny )