MEAT EATERS-SHAME ON YOU
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You just believe what you want to believe simplyrahil. But perhaps you should ask yourself: Did I, me2, remain silent in this thread? And do you have any idea of things I do besides this board? It is very easy to judge. But when we judge it tells us more about us than about the person we think we judge. And now I have said all I wanted to say. Not going to repeat myself.
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you wasted your typing because you still remain on the fence. stop spamming the thread then if you can't choose a side.
simplyrahil:
me2:
simplyrahil it seems to me you are indeed Shouting At The World. You don't even know whether I eat meat or not.
sure, you don't make it evident, and a couple other veggie-leaning people who posted also do not make it evident on THIS THREAD, but if the side chosen is against murder of animals, then i'd expect that those who do not eat animals to make it clear in their stance on here, and not be cowardly in 'babying' those who are killing and paying for the killing of innocent animals to be eaten. that makes it seem to them as if it is quite alright to continue doing so when it is not. it is like German citizens during WWII who may not personally support the Holocaust, yet keep quiet about it or do nothing vocally or actively against it. the animals are going through a holocaust, so choose your side and stick to it. otherwise, the murderers are being victorious with every 'neutrality' even if that comes from a 'veggie' who stays quiet and does not openly make it clear that is is WRONG to kill animals. https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/580842_468138389897757_691209689_n.jpg (artist - Jo Frederiks)
me2:
What I said applies to both vegetarians and meat eaters. And my message was meant for both. It applies to all human beings.
so was mine.
me2:
And Paul is as much entitled to his opinion as others are entitled to theirs.
but what he states is just as well backed-up as what i am saying and as others defending the animals on this thread have stated. the response i made about Sir Paul was not with THAT angle. it was in response to you all speaking about 'kind manner', to which i made Sir Paul a reference regarding 'kind manner' with the SAME MESSAGE. so don't miss the point. the point was that if you all want to do as if 'the reason we won't listen is because you are too 'unsweet, unkind' with your manner of giving the message, THEN WHAT ABOUT THE WAY SIR PAUL does it? he is giving the SAME MESSAGE but surely in a KINDER WAY. so why then isn't THAT being listened to? (since the excuse about 'kind manner' is seen about when it comes to 'manner of message')
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simplyrahil:
you wasted your typing because you still remain on the fence. stop spamming the thread then if you can't choose a side.
simplyrahil:
me2:
simplyrahil it seems to me you are indeed Shouting At The World. You don't even know whether I eat meat or not.
sure, you don't make it evident, and a couple other veggie-leaning people who posted also do not make it evident on THIS THREAD, but if the side chosen is against murder of animals, then i'd expect that those who do not eat animals to make it clear in their stance on here, and not be cowardly in 'babying' those who are killing and paying for the killing of innocent animals to be eaten. that makes it seem to them as if it is quite alright to continue doing so when it is not. it is like German citizens during WWII who may not personally support the Holocaust, yet keep quiet about it or do nothing vocally or actively against it. the animals are going through a holocaust, so choose your side and stick to it. otherwise, the murderers are being victorious with every 'neutrality' even if that comes from a 'veggie' who stays quiet and does not openly make it clear that is is WRONG to kill animals. https://fbcdn-sphotos-d-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/580842_468138389897757_691209689_n.jpg (artist - Jo Frederiks)
me2:
What I said applies to both vegetarians and meat eaters. And my message was meant for both. It applies to all human beings.
so was mine.
me2:
And Paul is as much entitled to his opinion as others are entitled to theirs.
but what he states is just as well backed-up as what i am saying and as others defending the animals on this thread have stated. the response i made about Sir Paul was not with THAT angle. it was in response to you all speaking about 'kind manner', to which i made Sir Paul a reference regarding 'kind manner' with the SAME MESSAGE. so don't miss the point. the point was that if you all want to do as if 'the reason we won't listen is because you are too 'unsweet, unkind' with your manner of giving the message, THEN WHAT ABOUT THE WAY SIR PAUL does it? he is giving the SAME MESSAGE but surely in a KINDER WAY. so why then isn't THAT being listened to? (since the excuse about 'kind manner' is seen about when it comes to 'manner of message')
Wow, this drawing is amazing. I think this is an amazing artistic interpretation of what happens to these poor animals.
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hey_kittay:
Wow, this drawing is amazing. I think this is an amazing artistic interpretation of what happens to these poor animals.
nah, that's just a drawing of: our OPINION : our AGGRESSIVE WAY OF PUTTING THE FACTS : our LACK OF A CUP OF KINDNESS and our HATRED : which all those who pay for this and continue to pay for this for them to keep consuming the flesh of animals are far from being guilty of : but seriously, THIS is the organized AGGRESSION, LACK OF KINDNESS, UNLOVE, HATRED that animal-eaters PAY FOR and perpetuate with their every purchase of animals' flesh. no idea why they can't ACCEPT THE FACTS. SIR PAUL HIMSELF has exposed it. why can't they listen?
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Jags:
Boggle:
I like meat and will never give it up. If vegetarians cant handle the fact that people like meat and it is not wrong then they need to get a life and get off their soapboxes! I am so pissed off with subjects like this one, I AM A MEET EATER AND I AM NOT ASHAMED!
Correction: you said: I like kill animals, I don't care if they cry and have a life with me, I am a killer... And I enjoy that blood in my hands... But in my profile I have a macca pic... But I don't care hat he think about animals" That is what you really said boggle...
Totally correct and your point is? I know that the animals i eat are killed and no i don't care what happened to them when they were killed the same way i happily buy Eggs from battery hens and not free range ones. If i enjoy what i am eating i don't really care how it got to my plate as long as it does. And i have been a macca fan for over 30 years but doesn't mean i have to follow his beliefs like sheep like you obviously do!
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the title of this thread is why i left the vegan movement. Righteousness does more harm to the world then anything else. even slaughtering animals. there is a better way to title this thread. Something that actually states what it's about would be better.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Used to bleed copiously and would feel dizzy and faint, I had to eat meat I thought, though possibly could just have used iron pills. I felt better after consuming some meat though. Just pointing out this issue is more complicated than you think, for women, some women, especially.
greens, chlorella, a green algae, and dandelion root all are healthy forms of iron. So is that wheat gluten found in many veggie meats.
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MJBeatle:
What about the native Americans? they hunted, killed and ate animals. And they still do because it's part of there heritage and culture. And Jesus ate meat. I don't want to fight with you, I just don't understand why you have to blame people like me for such hatered to animals. I love all animals, but I choose to eat what I've had all my life.
there is debate on Jesus eating meat. the Essene gospels (not recognized by the church but do exist) speak of Jesus forbidding meat eating quite a bit. as far as heritage: So's slavery, racism, Jim Crow laws, sexism. what's your point?
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MJBeatle:
.I also don't like the way how some vegans treat people. They attack and hurt their feelings by making them feel not worthy. .
Been there. I've converted more people to trying vegan food and I'm not a vegan. "Thank you for belittling me and being condescending. you so have converted me to veganism," said NO PERSON EVER.
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simplyrahil:
. i guess you'll tell SIR PAUL himself that if he was face to face with you eh? he is after all a vegetarian who always reminds us all that it is wrong to kill and eat animals, in worldwide-seen videos, songs and statements. so you'd also tell SIR PAUL he 'needs to get a life and get off his soapbox'?
Yes, I would if I felt he deserved it. I also would point out better ways to get people to listen to ideas such as his MFM campaign or just plain showing people how good the food can be. (Providing an alternative is always a better strategy. Just ask Rudolf Steiner)
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simplyrahil:
preach that 'cup of kindness' to the animal-eaters that 'cup of kindness' should be a cup of tea or soymilk and not a cup of blood and flesh.
SOymilk is very bad for you. Even the Asians only drink small amounts. without fermentation, it builds up in the system and causes allergies and eye problems. (according to Bob Zurrow's book).
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Jags:
Kathryn O:
simplyrahil:
preach that 'cup of kindness' to the animal-eaters that 'cup of kindness' should be a cup of tea or soymilk and not a cup of blood and flesh.
SOymilk is very bad for you. Even the Asians only drink small amounts. without fermentation, it builds up in the system and causes allergies and eye problems. (according to Bob Zurrow's book).
nothing in this world is worse ""food" than eat the a dead body .... body that belonged to someone who had the right to life as you and I. so.. better soy milk kill us, than we kill others!
it is not better to die from analphylatic shock and blind. Even those that originated soymilk, the Asians, consume it in small amounts. there are other things to drink. lots of other things. and many of them are vegan.
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kathryn o, this was not about drinking soymilk per se we are all aware of the negatives of many things which are in the vegan world also, but note well: the same soya that you speak against is what all the animal-eaters also eat and drink huge amounts of either directly or indirectly by 'virtue' of al the flesh and milk they consume. almost all the animals are fed soya hence their flesh and all has the same 'bad stuff' and most products these people purchase which are non-vegan have added soya also, including milk drinks. i don't even use soya much. once in a while only do i consume soya as in a drink. not regularly by any means. if you took that literally, then i'm sorry for your thought process. it was a statement to mean it could mean anything vegan, anything not from an animal in the metaphorical 'cup of kindness' that was being thrown about also, you should use this mood you came on this thread with to speak to the animal-eaters, because they are the ones who are filling themselves EVERY MINUTE with unhealthy flesh and other related 'products' versus the average vegan's diet. and if you are not a vegan, but i assume some sort of vegetarian, then decide which side you're on and speak out for the animals (which is what we have been doing here) instead of attacking those who are defending them strongly. and this is not about 'you winning a debate' or vegans 'losing the debate' facts are facts - killing and eating animals is evil and paying for it makes one equally accountable and responsible and to BLAME for its perpetuation. as for the title of the thread, you'll have to take that up with 'phillip' wherever he may be. i have no idea who or where he is. i am only responsible for my posts defending the animals and opposing the insane mindset that animals are simply 'meat' on here. *shakes head* p.s. you said you 'stopped being vegan' quoting some lame reason. if you truly understood the real reasons for being vegan and felt compassion in your heart for animals, then no external reason would sway you from still being vegan. in short, you weren't convicted enough about the right of animals to not be murdered and eaten, to stay away from such yourself. don't blame others for your shortcomings as a human being who actually saw the facts and still chose to be part of the murder by not being vegan. accept that if you are not vegan then you are part of the network of this murder of animals as a consumer of anything non-vegan.
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I'm considering becoming a vegetarian. Is there a particular site anyone can recommend, that details the transition process from meat eater to vegetarian? Thank you.
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Jags:
. you said to me that this: IMAGE REMOVED DUE TO SWEAR WORDS is good ... and im telling you that this: http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/430719_367918043298435_1387650537_n.jpg is good?? so.... what????? are you ok??
Now you are putting words in my mouth. I never once used the word 'good' in any post I made. go ahead and check. Now, you are doing what is called a lie. and if you have to lie to prove your point, you don't have a valid point
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simplyrahil:
kathryn o, this was not about drinking soymilk per se .]
It was brought up multiple times. That's why I had to address it. and the culture it came from and how they consume it. (Tofu is traditionally not a vegetarian food either and is harmful if consumed in large quantities any other way). You are also assuming I am not nor never have been a vegan. I was an organic vegan for six years. I walked away due to the mindset that you and your cohort display on this thread. I didn't want to become that. and I thankfully didn't. I've also probably turned more people onto vegan food then you ever have and got them to try vegan meals and realize how simple it is to make the dishes out of things they are familiar with. how? They saw me and wondered what I was doing.
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jonesing:
I'm considering becoming a vegetarian. Is there a particular site anyone can recommend, that details the transition process from meat eater to vegetarian? Thank you.
Good! thank you.... well i have my blog but is in spanish, but if you want i can translate for you... www.cocinandoconjagannatha.blogspot.com you can write me from there in "contact me" and is a pleasure if i can help you with all...
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Jags:
jonesing:
I'm considering becoming a vegetarian. Is there a particular site anyone can recommend, that details the transition process from meat eater to vegetarian? Thank you.
Good! thank you.... well i have my blog but is in spanish, but if you want i can translate for you... www.cocinandoconjagannatha.blogspot.com you can write me from there in "contact me" and is a pleasure if i can help you with all...
Thank you for the helpful response. I'll let you know if I do.
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My Life as a Vegetarian - Supporting Linda's Legacy http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/paul-mccartney/paul-mccartney-life-as-a-vegetarian-linda-mccartney_b_2545038.html?utm_hp_ref=uk
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jonesing:
"I'm considering becoming a vegetarian. Is there a particular site anyone can recommend, that details the transition process from meat eater to vegetarian? Thank you.
Lots of info here: https://www.vegsoc.org/ and here: http://maccaboard.paulmccartney.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=62188