Would George have quit the Beatles if John didnt?
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crisstti:
I don't know if you're heard/read the two interviews with John I'm talking about, but he's clearly not displeased with the idea at all, to say the least. He was also, interestingly, the only one I think to openly express a certain desire for them to reunite in the 70's.
I'm sure the interview on the beach is in the Imagine:John Lennon documentary from 88. But I'm not sure which interview you referring to from 76. Can you post links for both?
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dcshark:
crisstti:
I don't know if you're heard/read the two interviews with John I'm talking about, but he's clearly not displeased with the idea at all, to say the least. He was also, interestingly, the only one I think to openly express a certain desire for them to reunite in the 70's.
I'm sure the interview on the beach is in the Imagine:John Lennon documentary from 88. But I'm not sure which interview you referring to from 76. Can you post links for both?
The 73 interview I'm quite sure is one with Eliot Mintz, guess it's the same one you're thinking about?. The other one I did a quick search and don't seem to be able to find it, maybe I'm misremembering the year. Hope I'm not making that one up lol.
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OK. I did some digging. Here they are: This is the Elliot Mintz interview. I don?t know but to me it doesn?t sound definitive that he wants to do it. But he is open to it.
Here is an interview from 1975. Is this it? It was to promote the Rock and Roll LP on the Old Grey Whistle Test on April 18 1975. Again open to the idea of playing in the studio, but he states that he won?t organize a reunion. States he has too much to do; i.e Yoko?s pregnant and he?s about to retire. -
I think he might have or taken longer breaks doing his own projects. Some engineers who wrote about their time with the Beatles saw George's frustration as early as Revolver.
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George could have just issued his own solo albums parallel to the Beatles'. If he was so frustated he should have.
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crisstti:
George could have just issued his own solo albums parallel to the Beatles'. If he was so frustated he should have.
If it wasnt for the Klein/business issues, I think that's what would have happened for a few years anyway. I think Paul & John would be fine with that solution. Paul was urging John to continue & to release his more "experimental" stuff as side-projects. of course, at some point, that would lead to problems & splintering, such as what material do you use for the group versus solo projects, etc. But, that's 1 scenario for the group to keep going even with a near-equal George as songwriter.
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dcshark:
OK. I did some digging. Here they are: This is the Elliot Mintz interview. I don?t know but to me it doesn?t sound definitive that he wants to do it. But he is open to it.
Here is an interview from 1975. Is this it? It was to promote the Rock and Roll LP on the Old Grey Whistle Test on April 18 1975. Again open to the idea of playing in the studio, but he states that he won?t organize a reunion. States he has too much to do; i.e Yoko?s pregnant and he?s about to retire.FIrst, thanks for digging up the interviews. Those must be it. The first one certainly is, the second one, if it's not it it's very similar anyway. In both interviews he sounds pleased with the idea, certainly very much open to it. In the first one he says "it's quite possible, yes". Not just some neutral "maybe" or "it could be". In the second one, some two years later, he says he'll do it if someone else puts it together. Thinking of a similar comment I was wondering why didn't Paul think of putting it together. John had announced he'd say yes. Maybe John for that matter didn't want to put it together because he wasn't sure the other would want to... Did any of the other beatles make such positive comments about a Beatles reunion?, if they did I haven't seen/read them. The original point was anyway, that all the problems that led The Beatles to break up were water under the bridge, not stopping them from getting together... when it came to John and Paul anyway. George somehow seemed to have developed a certain bitterness about it by then. BTW, I love that second interview with John. So nice to see him without the hostility and sarcasm that fills his somehow more famous interviews and which have become a lot more associated with his personality. I think this is what his happy self was like, not the one from that 1980 interview who seems to have a lot of resentment and insecurity absent on this interview. Love his comment about whether it would be worth it too: "if we wanted to do it, then it would be worth it".
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JoeySmith:
crisstti:
George could have just issued his own solo albums parallel to the Beatles'. If he was so frustated he should have.
If it wasnt for the Klein/business issues, I think that's what would have happened for a few years anyway. I think Paul & John would be fine with that solution. Paul was urging John to continue & to release his more "experimental" stuff as side-projects. of course, at some point, that would lead to problems & splintering, such as what material do you use for the group versus solo projects, etc. But, that's 1 scenario for the group to keep going even with a near-equal George as songwriter.
It would have meant Beatles albums less often, which would have been fine as some solo proyects do indeed work better as such imo. I'm glad we have Plastic Ono Band, McCartney I and II, All Things Must Pass. Paul could have toured with other band (and Ringo) since John and George didn't seem much into it anymore. Another favourite band of mine, Queen, did this and lasted forever (until Freddie died and for that matter they're still going on) managed the conflict of which songs go where just fine.