Why not collaborate with Gilmour or Page instead of Kanye
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Bruce M.:
Ammar:
HaileyMcComet:
rich n:
And when all is said and done, Abbey Road is still Abbey Road, Band on the Run is still Band on the Run, etc...and this collaboration did not change that...point being, if you like the collaboration, listen to it, if not, play (insert name of favorite Paul/Beatle album) to your heart's content...worse case scenario, nothing tarnished by this
Plus one, like and thumbs up. I don't see why this is bothering people. If your name is Paul McCartney, you can play with whoever you want. I bet a lot of people are glad he does.
take a look at such headlines: http://www.billboard.com/articles/columns/chart-beat/6436407/kanye-west-paul-mccartney-debuts-hot-rb-hip-hop-songs Thanks to Kanye West, Paul McCartney Debuts on Hot R&B/Hip-Hop Songs As a loyal fan of Paul McCartney, do you feel good about it???
I don't have a problem with the headline because, uh, it's true. And something like this was probably the only way Paul was going to hit some of these charts. I can't fathom why this upsets people.
Of course it is true. the fact you are stating is what upsets people that he needs to do make #1 hit but not by his own efforts!
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Ammar:
favoritething:
The attitude of a lot of Paul's fans right now seems eerily familiar. Hmm, when was it that all the parents and politicians and policemen complained about some new form of music that was all just tuneless noise, and they can't sing, and they can't really play their instruments, and they look ridiculous, and they're just publicity hounds, and the young people are mindless fools to like them, and they'll never last, and how dare they be as popular as the REAL singers? Oh yes, that would be 1964!
are you serious? do you think the hip-hop is new style??? you are funny... missing the whole point
It's not the new style, and that's what makes it even more ridiculous when people can't accept it. This "rap is crap" thing has been going on for over three decades, while the music has continued to thrive. I know that you're making a point about Paul getting credit for a song he doesn't sing on, but they chose to credit him as the featured artist, and his funky keyboard playing is the only consistent instrument in the entire song. It's actually nice to see Paul get credit for his musicianship, and not just his singing, for once. If Kanye had brought in, say, Herbie Hancock, I could definitely see HIS name listed as a featured artist. I would prefer to see Paul's chart return be a vocal contribution, too, but it doesn't get me all upset, sorry.
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favoritething:
Ammar:
favoritething:
The attitude of a lot of Paul's fans right now seems eerily familiar. Hmm, when was it that all the parents and politicians and policemen complained about some new form of music that was all just tuneless noise, and they can't sing, and they can't really play their instruments, and they look ridiculous, and they're just publicity hounds, and the young people are mindless fools to like them, and they'll never last, and how dare they be as popular as the REAL singers? Oh yes, that would be 1964!
are you serious? do you think the hip-hop is new style??? you are funny... missing the whole point
It's not the new style, and that's what makes it even more ridiculous when people can't accept it. This "rap is crap" thing has been going on for over three decades, while the music has continued to thrive. I know that you're making a point about Paul getting credit for a song he doesn't sing on, but they chose to credit him as the featured artist, and his funky keyboard playing is the only consistent instrument in the entire song. It's actually nice to see Paul get credit for his musicianship, and not just his singing, for once. If Kanye had brought in, say, Herbie Hancock, I could definitely see HIS name listed as a featured artist. I would prefer to see Paul's chart return be a vocal contribution, too, but it doesn't get me all upset, sorry.
I tend to agree with you on all your points. I like Only One better than Hope For The Future, though the latter has grown on me a bit.
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Loved his work with Gilmour in Run Devil Run
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favoritething:
Ammar:
favoritething:
The attitude of a lot of Paul's fans right now seems eerily familiar. Hmm, when was it that all the parents and politicians and policemen complained about some new form of music that was all just tuneless noise, and they can't sing, and they can't really play their instruments, and they look ridiculous, and they're just publicity hounds, and the young people are mindless fools to like them, and they'll never last, and how dare they be as popular as the REAL singers? Oh yes, that would be 1964!
are you serious? do you think the hip-hop is new style??? you are funny... missing the whole point
It's not the new style, and that's what makes it even more ridiculous when people can't accept it. This "rap is crap" thing has been going on for over three decades, while the music has continued to thrive. I know that you're making a point about Paul getting credit for a song he doesn't sing on, but they chose to credit him as the featured artist, and his funky keyboard playing is the only consistent instrument in the entire song. It's actually nice to see Paul get credit for his musicianship, and not just his singing, for once. If Kanye had brought in, say, Herbie Hancock, I could definitely see HIS name listed as a featured artist. I would prefer to see Paul's chart return be a vocal contribution, too, but it doesn't get me all upset, sorry.
Thank you... now you see clearly what I mean. even if we disagree to some point. you are not upset, cool, I am upset of course... I don't like people of any generation make fun of this situation, and say "Beatles music are crap" or this Old man wants a hit on Kayne's shoulder. For the rap thing: this is a very light weight music, of course there are a lot of fans for it for 30 years. but this not Paul's place or any rock or rock'n'roll or blues or classical band or figure. Paul had a hard time with critics for putting light music a couple of times before as a solo artist. but that's way behind him now. I remember him saying in 1993 interview something like "maybe my son will say someday hey dad I like rap and your music is crap" it just shows how he is different from this style. and did not want to involve in it.
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liv4art:
Loved his work with Gilmour in Run Devil Run
it was great! and also "No More Lonely night" and "We Got married"
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Ammar:
liv4art:
Loved his work with Gilmour in Run Devil Run
it was great! and also "No More Lonely night" and "We Got married"
Love all three, too.
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LOOK what I found: http://www.theguardian.com/music/2014/oct/01/jimmy-page-led-zeppelin-career-spanning-tour I've got to see this. Wish they would join up. How would you like to see Paul & Jimmy Page on stage maybe jamming some old Led Zeppelin or Yardbirds(have to get Eric too). Name it Concert of the Century tour 2015! Lets go I'm ready.
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I'm much more anxious to see Paul McCartney collaborating on new music. I didn't care for it much when Paul Weller, Ronnie Wood and Roger Daltrey joined Macca onstage on "Get Back" a few years ago. Granted, if I were there, I would've enjoyed it. But I wouldn't hope for an official DVD-release or anything. Now the surprise appearance from Grohl & Co. at Seattle in 2013...THAT gets me excited. Plus, I don't see how a Led Zeppelin onstage-collab would be anything other than a train-wreck. Robert Plant can't sing those songs anymore.
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audi:
I'm much more anxious to see Paul McCartney collaborating on new music. I didn't care for it much when Paul Weller, Ronnie Wood and Roger Daltrey joined Macca onstage on "Get Back" a few years ago. Granted, if I were there, I would've enjoyed it. But I wouldn't hope for an official DVD-release or anything. Now the surprise appearance from Grohl & Co. at Seattle in 2013...THAT gets me excited. Plus, I don't see how a Led Zeppelin onstage-collab would be anything other than a train-wreck. Robert Plant can't sing those songs anymore.
Precisely. Once upon a time Don Henley said the Eagles would never do a "lost youth and greed tour" -- advice that all older artists should consider (and that the Eagles unfortunately forgot some years later). I have zero desire to see re-formations or reunions of '60s or '70s supergroups. Leave the past in the past, guys. And that in a nutshell is why I am just fine with Paul working with people like Kanye.
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Bruce M.:
audi:
I'm much more anxious to see Paul McCartney collaborating on new music. I didn't care for it much when Paul Weller, Ronnie Wood and Roger Daltrey joined Macca onstage on "Get Back" a few years ago. Granted, if I were there, I would've enjoyed it. But I wouldn't hope for an official DVD-release or anything. Now the surprise appearance from Grohl & Co. at Seattle in 2013...THAT gets me excited. Plus, I don't see how a Led Zeppelin onstage-collab would be anything other than a train-wreck. Robert Plant can't sing those songs anymore.
Precisely. Once upon a time Don Henley said the Eagles would never do a "lost youth and greed tour" -- advice that all older artists should consider (and that the Eagles unfortunately forgot some years later). I have zero desire to see re-formations or reunions of '60s or '70s supergroups. Leave the past in the past, guys. And that in a nutshell is why I am just fine with Paul working with people like Kanye.
How are Paul's current concerts any different? They aren't. I am not being critical, but they are a nostalgic trip, every bit as much as an Eagles concert.
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Artists seem to take either one extreme or the other. You have acts like Paul McCartney, whose concerts are 98% comprised by music from when Kennedy and Johnson were President. Then you have people like Grace Slick who completely quit making music while still at the top of her game. Why can't the masses expect artists who made great music at one time to still be able to make great music?
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RMartinez:
Bruce M.:
audi:
I'm much more anxious to see Paul McCartney collaborating on new music. I didn't care for it much when Paul Weller, Ronnie Wood and Roger Daltrey joined Macca onstage on "Get Back" a few years ago. Granted, if I were there, I would've enjoyed it. But I wouldn't hope for an official DVD-release or anything. Now the surprise appearance from Grohl & Co. at Seattle in 2013...THAT gets me excited. Plus, I don't see how a Led Zeppelin onstage-collab would be anything other than a train-wreck. Robert Plant can't sing those songs anymore.
Precisely. Once upon a time Don Henley said the Eagles would never do a "lost youth and greed tour" -- advice that all older artists should consider (and that the Eagles unfortunately forgot some years later). I have zero desire to see re-formations or reunions of '60s or '70s supergroups. Leave the past in the past, guys. And that in a nutshell is why I am just fine with Paul working with people like Kanye.
How are Paul's current concerts any different? They aren't. I am not being critical, but they are a nostalgic trip, every bit as much as an Eagles concert.
Exactly. Although Paul is not trying for a reunion of any "60s group" but he sure does play a LOT of Beatles music.
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oobu24:
RMartinez:
Bruce M.:
audi:
I'm much more anxious to see Paul McCartney collaborating on new music. I didn't care for it much when Paul Weller, Ronnie Wood and Roger Daltrey joined Macca onstage on "Get Back" a few years ago. Granted, if I were there, I would've enjoyed it. But I wouldn't hope for an official DVD-release or anything. Now the surprise appearance from Grohl & Co. at Seattle in 2013...THAT gets me excited. Plus, I don't see how a Led Zeppelin onstage-collab would be anything other than a train-wreck. Robert Plant can't sing those songs anymore.
Precisely. Once upon a time Don Henley said the Eagles would never do a "lost youth and greed tour" -- advice that all older artists should consider (and that the Eagles unfortunately forgot some years later). I have zero desire to see re-formations or reunions of '60s or '70s supergroups. Leave the past in the past, guys. And that in a nutshell is why I am just fine with Paul working with people like Kanye.
How are Paul's current concerts any different? They aren't. I am not being critical, but they are a nostalgic trip, every bit as much as an Eagles concert.
Exactly. Although Paul is not trying for a reunion of any "60s group" but he sure does play a LOT of Beatles music.
True. He does not pull the "reunion" angle. But one could argue he almost tours as if it's the Beatles!
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RMartinez:
Bruce M.:
audi:
I'm much more anxious to see Paul McCartney collaborating on new music. I didn't care for it much when Paul Weller, Ronnie Wood and Roger Daltrey joined Macca onstage on "Get Back" a few years ago. Granted, if I were there, I would've enjoyed it. But I wouldn't hope for an official DVD-release or anything. Now the surprise appearance from Grohl & Co. at Seattle in 2013...THAT gets me excited. Plus, I don't see how a Led Zeppelin onstage-collab would be anything other than a train-wreck. Robert Plant can't sing those songs anymore.
Precisely. Once upon a time Don Henley said the Eagles would never do a "lost youth and greed tour" -- advice that all older artists should consider (and that the Eagles unfortunately forgot some years later). I have zero desire to see re-formations or reunions of '60s or '70s supergroups. Leave the past in the past, guys. And that in a nutshell is why I am just fine with Paul working with people like Kanye.
How are Paul's current concerts any different? They aren't. I am not being critical, but they are a nostalgic trip, every bit as much as an Eagles concert.
And I am endlessly frustrated by Paul's setlists! I probably won't see Paul live again because I really don't need yet another Hey Jude singalong. Sadly, I don't see any prospect that he'll change at this point. Some artists love to challenge their audiences. Paul is not one of them.
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Bruce M.:
RMartinez:
Bruce M.:
audi:
I'm much more anxious to see Paul McCartney collaborating on new music. I didn't care for it much when Paul Weller, Ronnie Wood and Roger Daltrey joined Macca onstage on "Get Back" a few years ago. Granted, if I were there, I would've enjoyed it. But I wouldn't hope for an official DVD-release or anything. Now the surprise appearance from Grohl & Co. at Seattle in 2013...THAT gets me excited. Plus, I don't see how a Led Zeppelin onstage-collab would be anything other than a train-wreck. Robert Plant can't sing those songs anymore.
Precisely. Once upon a time Don Henley said the Eagles would never do a "lost youth and greed tour" -- advice that all older artists should consider (and that the Eagles unfortunately forgot some years later). I have zero desire to see re-formations or reunions of '60s or '70s supergroups. Leave the past in the past, guys. And that in a nutshell is why I am just fine with Paul working with people like Kanye.
How are Paul's current concerts any different? They aren't. I am not being critical, but they are a nostalgic trip, every bit as much as an Eagles concert.
And I am endlessly frustrated by Paul's setlists! I probably won't see Paul live again because I really don't need yet another Hey Jude singalong. Sadly, I don't see any prospect that he'll change at this point. Some artists love to challenge their audiences. Paul is not one of them.
You'll get no argument from me. I've seen him eight times, one of those was in 1976. That's not bad!
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RMartinez:
Bruce M.:
RMartinez:
Bruce M.:
audi:
I'm much more anxious to see Paul McCartney collaborating on new music. I didn't care for it much when Paul Weller, Ronnie Wood and Roger Daltrey joined Macca onstage on "Get Back" a few years ago. Granted, if I were there, I would've enjoyed it. But I wouldn't hope for an official DVD-release or anything. Now the surprise appearance from Grohl & Co. at Seattle in 2013...THAT gets me excited. Plus, I don't see how a Led Zeppelin onstage-collab would be anything other than a train-wreck. Robert Plant can't sing those songs anymore.
Precisely. Once upon a time Don Henley said the Eagles would never do a "lost youth and greed tour" -- advice that all older artists should consider (and that the Eagles unfortunately forgot some years later). I have zero desire to see re-formations or reunions of '60s or '70s supergroups. Leave the past in the past, guys. And that in a nutshell is why I am just fine with Paul working with people like Kanye.
How are Paul's current concerts any different? They aren't. I am not being critical, but they are a nostalgic trip, every bit as much as an Eagles concert.
And I am endlessly frustrated by Paul's setlists! I probably won't see Paul live again because I really don't need yet another Hey Jude singalong. Sadly, I don't see any prospect that he'll change at this point. Some artists love to challenge their audiences. Paul is not one of them.
You'll get no argument from me. I've seen him eight times, one of those was in 1976. That's not bad!
I'm partly where you guys are...Once upon a time, I was willing to travel to see Paul live in concert...nowadays, if he shows up right here in Boston, I'll still go, and buy the cheap seats just to 'be in the house'...but you're right, his shows are largely the same (although I will admit they have evolved quite a bit over a long period of time - but their often nearly unchanged for very long stretches)...but with that said, I'd still categorize it as 'we're lucky to have this legend still doing his thing'
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I bet Paul's fans worry about all of this a lot more than he does. He probably just wants to play music.
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HaileyMcComet:
I bet Paul's fans worry about all of this a lot more than he does. He probably just wants to play music.
And make lots of money
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Paul's setlist is not 98% Beatles... hell, he played Mrs. Vanderbilt when he came here, which I couldn't have been happier about And I'm happy that he plays the likes of Hey Jude. Plus, let's remember not (near) everyone at his concerts has been to several concerts. He also probably doesn't want just hardcore fans to go, and more casual fans (if fans at all) will want to hear the Beatles hits. I remember my sister asking me if he played too many of his solo songs when she was thinking of going (as in, if he did she didn't want to go).