The 2012 and beyond Political Thread - Part 2
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SurSteven:
"Now you get these rent-a-mobs saying How unhappy they are..." FALSE!!! There are hundreds of thousands of people (many of them students) in this Country and many other Countries who are opposed to Trump's long list of bad behaviors, and overwhelmingly prejudice beliefs. There were 5 high schools (and more not shown) locally with several students displaying their God given Constitutional Right to peacefully assemble and announce their grievances. There is only 1 out of every 1,000 of people in these gatherings who don't abide by their Constitutional Rights. And, of course you always get these grossly uninformed and uneducated comments like the one at the top of this post.
I have let some of your most idiotic posts blow away to the wind - without the reply They really deserved. Then i see your comment here and realized that I should have pointed out your garbage posts And not cared about it like you just did.
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paulfan11:
rich n:
CNN now reporting that when all the votes are tallied, Trump will also win the popular vote...that coming from CNN (Clinton News Network)...oh well
See this is how the media is getting on my nerves, not only during the election, but now afterwards. I just read the exact opposite in a paper this morning, saying that Clinton still has the popular vote and is expected to maintain that lead after the votes are all counted. The media hasn't helped one bit during all of this either.
Nobody is seriously saying Trump will win the popular vote. In fact, trends overwhelmingly favor Clinton's margin continuing to grow, as the states with most votes uncounted are ones she's winning handily. For details, see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-victory_us_5827a2c5e4b02d21bbc91bbc As of Friday, California -- where Clinton is trouncing Trump by nearly 2 to 1 -- had 4.3 million ballots still to be counted: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article114288968.html Hillary's going to win the popular vote by over a million, easily. Fantasize all you want, Rich, but reality will catch up.
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Bruce M.:
paulfan11:
rich n:
CNN now reporting that when all the votes are tallied, Trump will also win the popular vote...that coming from CNN (Clinton News Network)...oh well
See this is how the media is getting on my nerves, not only during the election, but now afterwards. I just read the exact opposite in a paper this morning, saying that Clinton still has the popular vote and is expected to maintain that lead after the votes are all counted. The media hasn't helped one bit during all of this either.
Nobody is seriously saying Trump will win the popular vote. In fact, trends overwhelmingly favor Clinton's margin continuing to grow, as the states with most votes uncounted are ones she's winning handily. For details, see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-victory_us_5827a2c5e4b02d21bbc91bbc As of Friday, California -- where Clinton is trouncing Trump by nearly 2 to 1 -- had 4.3 million ballots still to be counted: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article114288968.html Hillary's going to win the popular vote by over a million, easily. Fantasize all you want, Rich, but reality will catch up.
It didn't mean anything to me, because Trump won...just trying to rip the last pacifier out of the liberal's mouth. Truth is, you cut off NY and CA and throw them, along with their corrupt asses out in the ocean, Trump wins by 10-15 mil votes. Thats why we have the electoral system in the first place. So all states have a say. Trump didn't lose in the popular vote in the states that he won that were supposed to be Hillary's states (PA, MI, etc). Hillary won VA by 60K votes, coincidentally the same number as the number of convicts suddenly released granted the right to vote by gov mc-asshole. Lastly, the topic came up in 2012 because, although Obama ended up winning the popular vote, many polls in the days ahead of the election showed a scenario where Obama would win the electoral vote, but Romney would get the popular vote. Reps complained and Dems to them to go stuff it...so now the shoe of this argument is on the other foot Btw, Trump gave you a choice, Hillary gave you a command...a point that will slide way over your head
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The_Fool:
SurSteven:
"Now you get these rent-a-mobs saying How unhappy they are..." FALSE!!! There are hundreds of thousands of people (many of them students) in this Country and many other Countries who are opposed to Trump's long list of bad behaviors, and overwhelmingly prejudice beliefs. There were 5 high schools (and more not shown) locally with several students displaying their God given Constitutional Right to peacefully assemble and announce their grievances. There is only 1 out of every 1,000 of people in these gatherings who don't abide by their Constitutional Rights. And, of course you always get these grossly uninformed and uneducated comments like the one at the top of this post.
I have let some of your most idiotic posts blow away to the wind - without the reply They really deserved. Then i see your comment here and realized that I should have pointed out your garbage posts And not cared about it like you just did.
Please elaborate... Do you think that Americans have a God Given Constitutional Right To Express Their Views? My response was not directed at you personally. It is an erroneous comment that many people have made to create the illusion that everyone who contests something is being paid to do it. Do you understand the well grounded nature of the concerns of these people?
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rich n:
Bruce M.:
paulfan11:
rich n:
CNN now reporting that when all the votes are tallied, Trump will also win the popular vote...that coming from CNN (Clinton News Network)...oh well
See this is how the media is getting on my nerves, not only during the election, but now afterwards. I just read the exact opposite in a paper this morning, saying that Clinton still has the popular vote and is expected to maintain that lead after the votes are all counted. The media hasn't helped one bit during all of this either.
Nobody is seriously saying Trump will win the popular vote. In fact, trends overwhelmingly favor Clinton's margin continuing to grow, as the states with most votes uncounted are ones she's winning handily. For details, see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-victory_us_5827a2c5e4b02d21bbc91bbc As of Friday, California -- where Clinton is trouncing Trump by nearly 2 to 1 -- had 4.3 million ballots still to be counted: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article114288968.html Hillary's going to win the popular vote by over a million, easily. Fantasize all you want, Rich, but reality will catch up.
It didn't mean anything to me, because Trump won...just trying to rip the last pacifier out of the liberal's mouth. Truth is, you cut off NY and CA and throw them, along with their corrupt asses out in the ocean, Trump wins by 10-15 mil votes. Thats why we have the electoral system in the first place. So all states have a say. Trump didn't lose in the popular vote in the states that he won that were supposed to be Hillary's states (PA, MI, etc). Hillary won VA by 60K votes, coincidentally the same number as the number of convicts suddenly released granted the right to vote by gov mc-asshole. Lastly, the topic came up in 2012 because, although Obama ended up winning the popular vote, many polls in the days ahead of the election showed a scenario where Obama would win the electoral vote, but Romney would get the popular vote. Reps complained and Dems to them to go stuff it...so now the shoe of this argument is on the other foot Btw, Trump gave you a choice, Hillary gave you a command...a point that will slide way over your head
Actually, the Electoral College was set up to protect slavery. Learn some history: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/electoral-college-slavery-constitution/
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You try to stay positive about Trump, yet he loves to keep proving us wrong!! Trump, still tweeting ridiculous misinformation tweets. That alone should tell you who's running the country All of the misinformed tweeters from around the country, his electorate. It's beyond ridiculous... He's an immature, name calling tweet. http://www.politicususa.com/2016/11/13/tweets-show-trump-failure-president.html?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=im 4 years of total misinformation and deconstruction Yes, want to comment on rent a mobs also... In which reality, can you think those protestors are in any way "rented" ?!? OVER HALF of the voters think Donald Trump is one of the worst candidates ever to be a candidate. He didn't offer a change...he just used the word change. Everyone in their mind had an individual idea of what they would like the change to be, and voted on their own idea of change. He never actually offered many examples at all, the wall? The same thing as "Make America Better" by doing what!? That example was never given, really. Everyone had an imagined what would make America better, but what examples were given!? Tweeters of the world (anyone with a fone) you are now running America with all your millions of individual thoughts of change and what makes America great again. Who said the world is one big video game?!! Blow it up and start over?? We are at the whim of a madman's tweets and imagined slights. NO POLITICAL EXPERIENCE getting the BEST POSSIBLE ADVISORS his children... REALLY Go home and put your children in charge of your life and finances..oh and everyone else's too
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Bruce M.:
rich n:
Bruce M.:
paulfan11:
rich n:
CNN now reporting that when all the votes are tallied, Trump will also win the popular vote...that coming from CNN (Clinton News Network)...oh well
See this is how the media is getting on my nerves, not only during the election, but now afterwards. I just read the exact opposite in a paper this morning, saying that Clinton still has the popular vote and is expected to maintain that lead after the votes are all counted. The media hasn't helped one bit during all of this either.
Nobody is seriously saying Trump will win the popular vote. In fact, trends overwhelmingly favor Clinton's margin continuing to grow, as the states with most votes uncounted are ones she's winning handily. For details, see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-victory_us_5827a2c5e4b02d21bbc91bbc As of Friday, California -- where Clinton is trouncing Trump by nearly 2 to 1 -- had 4.3 million ballots still to be counted: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article114288968.html Hillary's going to win the popular vote by over a million, easily. Fantasize all you want, Rich, but reality will catch up.
It didn't mean anything to me, because Trump won...just trying to rip the last pacifier out of the liberal's mouth. Truth is, you cut off NY and CA and throw them, along with their corrupt asses out in the ocean, Trump wins by 10-15 mil votes. Thats why we have the electoral system in the first place. So all states have a say. Trump didn't lose in the popular vote in the states that he won that were supposed to be Hillary's states (PA, MI, etc). Hillary won VA by 60K votes, coincidentally the same number as the number of convicts suddenly released granted the right to vote by gov mc-asshole. Lastly, the topic came up in 2012 because, although Obama ended up winning the popular vote, many polls in the days ahead of the election showed a scenario where Obama would win the electoral vote, but Romney would get the popular vote. Reps complained and Dems to them to go stuff it...so now the shoe of this argument is on the other foot Btw, Trump gave you a choice, Hillary gave you a command...a point that will slide way over your head
Actually, the Electoral College was set up to protect slavery. Learn some history: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/electoral-college-slavery-constitution/
Actually, that is incorrect... slaves were assigned a value of a percent of a person to help states in their plight for self serving interest. Thus, they were an add on as part of a compromise...take the word 'slaves' out of the mix, and you have the same underlying using of demographics as a means to manipulate the process...
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With all the Major mishaps in polling & surveys, why should anyone trusts the current polls by the same olde groups and/or companies? : It seems to me the results were "cooked" to try and influence the vote, discourage voters and/or to please the current Democrat power people
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Bruce M.:
paulfan11:
rich n:
CNN now reporting that when all the votes are tallied, Trump will also win the popular vote...that coming from CNN (Clinton News Network)...oh well
See this is how the media is getting on my nerves, not only during the election, but now afterwards. I just read the exact opposite in a paper this morning, saying that Clinton still has the popular vote and is expected to maintain that lead after the votes are all counted. The media hasn't helped one bit during all of this either.
Nobody is seriously saying Trump will win the popular vote. In fact, trends overwhelmingly favor Clinton's margin continuing to grow, as the states with most votes uncounted are ones she's winning handily. For details, see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-victory_us_5827a2c5e4b02d21bbc91bbc As of Friday, California -- where Clinton is trouncing Trump by nearly 2 to 1 -- had 4.3 million ballots still to be counted: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article114288968.html Hillary's going to win the popular vote by over a million, easily. Fantasize all you want, Rich, but reality will catch up.
Have heard now from more than one source, that she has actually won the popular vote by 1 to 2 million votes. And another thing...As a matter of checks and balances, Electoral Vote Senators Have A Right to change their votes before the electoral votes are officially counted on December 19th. If they are uncomfortable with The President Elect...They Can Change Everything.
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Just a few:
http://abcnews.com.co/donald-trump-protester-speaks-out-i-was-paid-to-protest/ http://www.wnd.com/2016/11/staged-craigslist-has-ads-for-anti-trump-protesters/ https://70news.wordpress.com/2016/11/13/craigslist-35hr-for-anti-trump-protesters-in-palos-verdes-trump-golf-course-dress-to-impress-expect-to-stay-10-hours-thats-350-total-another-soros-funded-riot-to-come/ http://thefederalistpapers.org/us/leftist-paid-protesters-behind-anti-trump-violence There were older ones showing the idea of rent-a-mobs going on for a good part of the election - by Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton. Yes I believe in free speech and the right to protest with one of these ----> * That you protest peacefully and don't do harm to other people and property. That you aren't dangerous to people and property - this is not an excuse to beat the crap out of someone or riot, loot and burn buildings and cars etc..... And I stick by what I said - that they are rent-a-mobs. Too many things also disappear on the internet - People had the same signs in different cities - Had the same plan The same exact memorized sayings and interviews What a coincidence that signs that were suppose to look hand drawn were in different cities as if they were unique The protesters got out there quickly with signs and chants at the time of the announcement of the "elect" I am sure they were joined by "innocent" disappointed people after a realistic time frame. Somebody printed those well done printed signs that had to take some time to do - most likely done well before the election night to be distributed. When protests are done like this - and not organic or grass roots - they taint and ruin things for those who sincerely protest. -
^ NOT! Bernie Sanders On Stephen Colbert Last Night. He Puts Everything Perfectly Into Perspective.
"Bernie Sanders: Now More Than Ever, It's Our Revolution" (Our Peaceful And Determined Democratic True American Revolution) Don't Let Silly People Make You Feel Bad For Standing Up For What Is...Truly RIGHT! And Don't Allow Them To Relate You To The Small Percentage Of People Who Are Violent. They Are The Kind Of People Who Think That If One Person Does Something Wrong In A Group Then Everyone In That Group Is The Same Way This Is The Basis For All Religious And Racial Prejudice. -
Bruce M.:
paulfan11:
rich n:
CNN now reporting that when all the votes are tallied, Trump will also win the popular vote...that coming from CNN (Clinton News Network)...oh well
See this is how the media is getting on my nerves, not only during the election, but now afterwards. I just read the exact opposite in a paper this morning, saying that Clinton still has the popular vote and is expected to maintain that lead after the votes are all counted. The media hasn't helped one bit during all of this either.
Nobody is seriously saying Trump will win the popular vote. In fact, trends overwhelmingly favor Clinton's margin continuing to grow, as the states with most votes uncounted are ones she's winning handily. For details, see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-victory_us_5827a2c5e4b02d21bbc91bbc As of Friday, California -- where Clinton is trouncing Trump by nearly 2 to 1 -- had 4.3 million ballots still to be counted: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article114288968.html Hillary's going to win the popular vote by over a million, easily. Fantasize all you want, Rich, but reality will catch up.
Have heard now from more than one source, that she has actually won the popular vote by 1 to 2 million votes. And another thing...As a matter of checks and balances, Electoral Vote Senators Have A Right to change their votes before the electoral votes are officially counted on December 19th. If they are uncomfortable with The President Elect...They Can Change Everything.
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Bernie is a Loser. He got effed over by Hillary Clinton And President Obama. poor guy only got a million dollar beach house for all His time and effort. <-- now that Is meant to be a joke.
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Who gave Sanders "a million dollar beach house" ? Some of your postings aggravated me, Fool and I thought to myself is that whom Paul was thinking of when he wrote that song, but then I reminded myself you have a perfect right to your opinions, just please remember that those who think differently also have a right to theirs.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Who gave Sanders "a million dollar beach house" ? Some of your postings aggravated me, Fool and I thought to myself is that whom Paul was thinking of when he wrote that song, but then I reminded myself you have a perfect right to your opinions, just please remember that those who think differently also have a right to theirs.
https://heatst.com/politics/bernie-sanders-buys-house/ Actually it was $600,000 ops: They were saying it would be worth a million if he did x,y and z...... When have I not listened or heard someone out here with a different opinion? I only objected to what I felt was a personal attack on me
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The_Fool:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Who gave Sanders "a million dollar beach house" ? Some of your postings aggravated me, Fool and I thought to myself is that whom Paul was thinking of when he wrote that song, but then I reminded myself you have a perfect right to your opinions, just please remember that those who think differently also have a right to theirs.
https://heatst.com/politics/bernie-sanders-buys-house/ Actually it was $600,000 ops: They were saying it would be worth a million if he did x,y and z...... When have I not listened or heard someone out here with a different opinion? I only objected to what I felt was a personal attack on me
Right now, if you're not liberal feeling the butthurt, you're someone who is close minded and doesn't listen...because they said so (this last sentence being the primary reason behind their loss)
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I'm going to a protest and so I'll fact find myself. Just remember, it was Trump who incited people to civil disobedience at polling places, double voting and I know of someone who said they were going to do it. If anything is Rigged, it's coming from the direction of the person who brought it up!
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rich n:
Bruce M.:
rich n:
Bruce M.:
paulfan11:
rich n:
CNN now reporting that when all the votes are tallied, Trump will also win the popular vote...that coming from CNN (Clinton News Network)...oh well
See this is how the media is getting on my nerves, not only during the election, but now afterwards. I just read the exact opposite in a paper this morning, saying that Clinton still has the popular vote and is expected to maintain that lead after the votes are all counted. The media hasn't helped one bit during all of this either.
Nobody is seriously saying Trump will win the popular vote. In fact, trends overwhelmingly favor Clinton's margin continuing to grow, as the states with most votes uncounted are ones she's winning handily. For details, see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-victory_us_5827a2c5e4b02d21bbc91bbc As of Friday, California -- where Clinton is trouncing Trump by nearly 2 to 1 -- had 4.3 million ballots still to be counted: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article114288968.html Hillary's going to win the popular vote by over a million, easily. Fantasize all you want, Rich, but reality will catch up.
It didn't mean anything to me, because Trump won...just trying to rip the last pacifier out of the liberal's mouth. Truth is, you cut off NY and CA and throw them, along with their corrupt asses out in the ocean, Trump wins by 10-15 mil votes. Thats why we have the electoral system in the first place. So all states have a say. Trump didn't lose in the popular vote in the states that he won that were supposed to be Hillary's states (PA, MI, etc). Hillary won VA by 60K votes, coincidentally the same number as the number of convicts suddenly released granted the right to vote by gov mc-asshole. Lastly, the topic came up in 2012 because, although Obama ended up winning the popular vote, many polls in the days ahead of the election showed a scenario where Obama would win the electoral vote, but Romney would get the popular vote. Reps complained and Dems to them to go stuff it...so now the shoe of this argument is on the other foot Btw, Trump gave you a choice, Hillary gave you a command...a point that will slide way over your head
Actually, the Electoral College was set up to protect slavery. Learn some history: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/electoral-college-slavery-constitution/
Actually, that is incorrect... slaves were assigned a value of a percent of a person to help states in their plight for self serving interest. Thus, they were an add on as part of a compromise...take the word 'slaves' out of the mix, and you have the same underlying using of demographics as a means to manipulate the process...
Please stop with the preposterous disinformation. There's actually little dissent among historians on this. The system was set up to maximize influence of slave states and guarantee the survival of the "peculiar institution." The "California" of that early era was the slave state of Virginia, and that was on purpose: http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
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Bruce M.:
rich n:
Bruce M.:
rich n:
Bruce M.:
paulfan11:
rich n:
CNN now reporting that when all the votes are tallied, Trump will also win the popular vote...that coming from CNN (Clinton News Network)...oh well
See this is how the media is getting on my nerves, not only during the election, but now afterwards. I just read the exact opposite in a paper this morning, saying that Clinton still has the popular vote and is expected to maintain that lead after the votes are all counted. The media hasn't helped one bit during all of this either.
Nobody is seriously saying Trump will win the popular vote. In fact, trends overwhelmingly favor Clinton's margin continuing to grow, as the states with most votes uncounted are ones she's winning handily. For details, see http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/hillary-clinton-popular-vote-victory_us_5827a2c5e4b02d21bbc91bbc As of Friday, California -- where Clinton is trouncing Trump by nearly 2 to 1 -- had 4.3 million ballots still to be counted: http://www.sacbee.com/news/politics-government/capitol-alert/article114288968.html Hillary's going to win the popular vote by over a million, easily. Fantasize all you want, Rich, but reality will catch up.
It didn't mean anything to me, because Trump won...just trying to rip the last pacifier out of the liberal's mouth. Truth is, you cut off NY and CA and throw them, along with their corrupt asses out in the ocean, Trump wins by 10-15 mil votes. Thats why we have the electoral system in the first place. So all states have a say. Trump didn't lose in the popular vote in the states that he won that were supposed to be Hillary's states (PA, MI, etc). Hillary won VA by 60K votes, coincidentally the same number as the number of convicts suddenly released granted the right to vote by gov mc-asshole. Lastly, the topic came up in 2012 because, although Obama ended up winning the popular vote, many polls in the days ahead of the election showed a scenario where Obama would win the electoral vote, but Romney would get the popular vote. Reps complained and Dems to them to go stuff it...so now the shoe of this argument is on the other foot Btw, Trump gave you a choice, Hillary gave you a command...a point that will slide way over your head
Actually, the Electoral College was set up to protect slavery. Learn some history: http://www.pbs.org/newshour/updates/electoral-college-slavery-constitution/
Actually, that is incorrect... slaves were assigned a value of a percent of a person to help states in their plight for self serving interest. Thus, they were an add on as part of a compromise...take the word 'slaves' out of the mix, and you have the same underlying using of demographics as a means to manipulate the process...
Please stop with the preposterous disinformation. There's actually little dissent among historians on this. The system was set up to maximize influence of slave states and guarantee the survival of the "peculiar institution." The "California" of that early era was the slave state of Virginia, and that was on purpose: http://time.com/4558510/electoral-college-history-slavery/
You just repeated what I said and called me wrong - that's cute
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love2travel:
I'm going to a protest and so I'll fact find myself. Just remember, it was Trump who incited people to civil disobedience at polling places, double voting and I know of someone who said they were going to do it. If anything is Rigged, it's coming from the direction of the person who brought it up!
Actually the violence was bought and paid for by the DNC - but please continue