THE NEXT DELUXE/REMASTERED ALBUM FROM PAUL
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paulmccartneyfan1:
favoritething:
jimmix:
What will be the next album or albums to be remastered and release in a deluxe box set? And then later, nominated for a Grammy. What's Left...So Far Wild Life (1971) (Wings) Red Rose Speedway (1973) (Paul McCartney & Wings) London Town (197 (Wings) Back to the Egg (1979) (Wings) Give My Regards to Broad Street (1984) Press to Play (1986) Choba B CCCP (198 Tripping the Live Fantastic (1990) (Lumpy Trousers - that one was my favorite) Unplugged (The Official Bootleg) (1991) Off the Ground (1993) Paul Is Live (1993) Flaming Pie (1997) Run Devil Run (1999) Driving Rain (2001) Back in the U.S. (2002) Back in the World (2003) Chaos and Creation in the Backyard (2005) Memory Almost Full (2007) Good Evening New York City (2009) Kisses on the Bottom (2012) New (2013)
This is actually what's left. Not sure what to think, since they're not teasing any upcoming releases in the new package. "Flaming Pie" seems like a natural next entry, although seven tracks from that were on "Pure McCartney" last year, and they were all newly remastered. It could be that they just start from scratch and rethink the whole campaign over again.
"Off The Ground?" Maybe. Last year on "Pure McCartney" only ONE song was on there from "Off The Ground." When Pure McCartney came out last year I did find it odd that there was not a single song from "Flowers In The Dirt" on it, but it makes sense now since he was going to be reissuing "Flowers In The Dirt" in 2017. So I think "Off The Ground" could be next since he missed a lot of song that could have been on "Pure McCartney."
Never understood leaving the flowers in the dirt stuff off pure McCartney ! It was hardly going to stop die hards buying the FITD boxed set !! All its done is made pure McCartney not very "pure " at all A kind of pointless incomplete career retrospective. A bit like missing Hey Jude of The Beatles greatest hits....
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JoeySmith:
The one thing these FITD demos prove is that Paul should have done the entire album with Elvis. All of the M&M material is top-notch and interesting. The M&M material as a whole is much higher quality than the Macca only material.
______________________________________________________ Joey, Just have to disagree with you on your last sentence. You're not wrong and I'm not right; it is just a matter of different opinions. From a "practically" point of view, it was probably impossible for a entire album of Paul and Elvis collaborations and not because there wasn't enough there. After the commercial failures of both Broad Street and Press to Play the main strategy Paul needed to do at the end of the decade was to do what Paul does best...go out on a major tour. Not just a little tour but a World tour. Paul will always sell tickets and for hard core and casual fans alike, to see him in his best element makes up for any hits and misses in the up and down world of the music business. If FITD would have been a total Paul/Elvis album, then Elvis in all probability would have had to tour with him to promote the album. They are both "Stars" with their own bands so for them to do it together for 50 shows (and probably more) would not have made sense especially from Elvis's point of view. I don't think this was said, but it wouldn't be surprising that Paul and Elvis had already agreed in advance to split their work together into their own albums. Perhaps we'll never know, but it would have made more sense to do it the way they did. After getting this Remaster, it was a great time for me to hear it in full for the first time in probably 10-15 years. I actually love it more now than the original release. Not sure if it is the actual remastering providing more punch or it is just that I'm a lot older. Either way I love it except for the last 2 tracks. And I like the McCartney only songs just as much (and maybe a little more) than the collaborative tracks. I think both My Brave Face and That Day is Done are great tracks but I also think Distractions, We Got Married, Put It There, Figure of Eight and This One are also great. Below all of these, Rough Ride and How Many People are still good to my ears. My only complaint with the Elvis/Paul songs was Don't be Careless Love. From listening to the 2 CD demo of the song, I think Paul should have sung his lead vocal on "Careless" in a lower key. I still like the song however. As usual and as a big time fan, Paul seems to have a penchant for keeping a couple of clunkers on an album (with the exception of Chaos). Motor of Love and OU EST Le Soleil should have been relegated to B-side status and replace by Back on My Feet (another Paul/Elvis song) and Flying to My Home. In my opinion, making those 2 changes would have put FITD into top 5 Paul Post Beatles status. Still in the top 8 for me and a very good album. I agree that collaborating with Elvis was a very good move but wasn't practical to make the whole album into a Paul/Elvis CD like I said. With just a couple of changes in the Paul only songs, FITD could have one of Paul's very, very best with still having half the album as Paul/Elvis songs. He does drive me nuts with some of his album selections, however.
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MetalGod:
Bob Gannon:
MetalGod:
wingsdgm:
Bob Gannon:
https://i.imgur.com/K6otB04.jpg Here's my 5th disk
pretty cool...sent me one ..I 'll pay shipping and anyone having trouble with the 45 from Best Buy ?? the site has nothing on McCartney ???
Bob, as a lurker on the SH forum - I think that post revealed yourself ð???
That's ok, not really a lurker there. I basically made a mistake here in this forum many years ago going by my real name. There I can kind of give hints with less chance of being found out. As many posts as I have made there, I don't think lurker is the correct terminolgy. The post was to simply show that I said I would make a nice disk of the download stuff and slip it in the box. No time to whine or complain, just fix the problem and move on. When handed lemons...make lemonade!!!
Bob - just to clarify; I'M a lurker on the SH forum! Lol. I enjoy your insider info on either forum.
Ahh! My bad, misunderstood what you said!! Thanks! I try to help in either arena when I can!
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I'm not sure if this has been asked yet. But has anyone actually purchased the download-only portion of FITD? I would buy it, if it was available on its own. I can't justify paying over 100$ for it. Also I'm sure this is "frowned upon" but I also can't find it anywhere online to "download it"
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mccartneyandwings:
I'm not sure if this has been asked yet. But has anyone actually purchased the download-only portion of FITD? I would buy it, if it was available on its own. I can't justify paying over 100$ for it. Also I'm sure this is "frowned upon" but I also can't find it anywhere online to "download it"
I got my downloads with my purchased set but I have already seen them available on the not so legal sources for as little as $9
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Interesting, isn't it, how FITD comes out, and then a week and a half later, now that that promotion has died down, we start to see the run-up to the next big release, the "Sgt. Pepper" reissue. Or is it just a myth that they try to keep space between big projects?
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favoritething:
Interesting, isn't it, how FITD comes out, and then a week and a half later, now that that promotion has died down, we start to see the run-up to the next big release, the "Sgt. Pepper" reissue. Or is it just a myth that they try to keep space between big projects?
They try to wait for your next payday.
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oobu24:
favoritething:
Interesting, isn't it, how FITD comes out, and then a week and a half later, now that that promotion has died down, we start to see the run-up to the next big release, the "Sgt. Pepper" reissue. Or is it just a myth that they try to keep space between big projects?
They try to wait for your next payday.
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The FITD re-release hit #33 on the Billboard album chart this week in the U.S. Actually not a bad showing, considering that the original album only hit #21 back in 1989. Of course, everything sells much less these days, and it'll probably disappear in a week or two, but still...
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favoritething:
The FITD re-release hit #33 on the Billboard album chart this week in the U.S. Actually not a bad showing, considering that the original album only hit #21 back in 1989. Of course, everything sells much less these days, and it'll probably disappear in a week or two, but still...
________________________________________________ Thanks favorite thing. I think it is disappointing primarily because right now is not a "big music month". Maybe someone can correct me, but non of the big stars that I know of are out with new CD's at the moment. That being said, you would think FITD would chart higher. I'm not talking about real high numbers here but in the overall ranking. It just seems that most people my age (Baby boomers and Paul's biggest audience) don't seem to buy CD's anymore. Many of them don't download either from what I can see. As far as the prices, I fully understand why most people would not buy the way too expensive Deluxe sets. But between Target, Best Buy and Amazon you would think that these relatively low cost Sets would sell more to the Boomers. By the way, I continue to play both the Remastered CD and the 2nd Disc with the Demos and I love both of them. I would think that many people like me still didn't have the original FITD release and for such a low cost, they would buy it. I guess there are far less hard core fans than I thought. People will pay a lot of money for seeing him on tour, but buying music...not so much.
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B J Conlee:
favoritething:
The FITD re-release hit #33 on the Billboard album chart this week in the U.S. Actually not a bad showing, considering that the original album only hit #21 back in 1989. Of course, everything sells much less these days, and it'll probably disappear in a week or two, but still...
________________________________________________ Thanks favorite thing. I think it is disappointing primarily because right now is not a "big music month". Maybe someone can correct me, but non of the big stars that I know of are out with new CD's at the moment. That being said, you would think FITD would chart higher. I'm not talking about real high numbers here but in the overall ranking. It just seems that most people my age (Baby boomers and Paul's biggest audience) don't seem to buy CD's anymore. Many of them don't download either from what I can see. As far as the prices, I fully understand why most people would not buy the way too expensive Deluxe sets. But between Target, Best Buy and Amazon you would think that these relatively low cost Sets would sell more to the Boomers. By the way, I continue to play both the Remastered CD and the 2nd Disc with the Demos and I love both of them. I would think that many people like me still didn't have the original FITD release and for such a low cost, they would buy it. I guess there are far less hard core fans than I thought. People will pay a lot of money for seeing him on tour, but buying music...not so much.
Yes, I think you pretty much nailed it. Also, I should mention that the chart position of FITD is somewhat inflated because Billboard treats each CD "unit" of the set as a single sale, so the Archive set counts as 3 sales, and the 2-CD set counts as 2. And of course they now factor in streaming numbers, as well as downloads of individual tracks, to the extent that if "My Brave Face" is downloaded something like 10-12 times, that counts as an album sale for FITD. Wacky, I know.
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Favorite Thing Thanks for the additional information above. That makes the sales of FITD sets even less impressive. One would think that the overwhelming seller among the various sets of FiTD would be the value oriented 2 CD Set at Target, Best Buy etc. If each of the 2 CD Sets count as 2, I would have thought that Paul would have been Top 20 and maybe a little higher. I guess I have to realize that it is an reissue but considering all the publicity about the added Paul/Elvis demo disc (and that April is not a real competitive album period) one would think that Paul would have charted higher than #33. Next week will be very interesting. If Paul's sales don't do better than 33 next week, then Capitol might not be too high about future PM Archive introductions.
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A new entry at #33 just means that it sold more that #34 and less than #32. Chart positions are meaningless. At #33 it could have shifted 50 units or 50 million units. Who knows, who cares?
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It's a reflection, or it attempts to be, of what's the most popular music of the week, so in that sense it's interesting. There's no way it will go higher next week. It could drop off the chart altogether, or possibly last one more week, based on the way reissues tend to behave on the charts.
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Getting back to the subject at hand...the 2017 Flowers in the Dirt Remaster (all packages). The biggest complaint I see from fans (just go to Amazon) is the decision to make the B-sides "download only". As a boomer (a big part of Paul's fan base), I understand this. Why not make it as easy for the true fans as possible. Some boomers are either "technological challenged" or they just like the ease of a finished CD. There were quite a few fans on Amazon that downgraded the overall "grade" of the Set strictly because of that decision. That being an obvious negative from the jump about this remaster, my biggest surprise (on this Site especially) is the lack of love for the remastered, original 13 track CD. There has been very few superlatives given for FITD (whether the 2017 Remaster from a technical side or the album as a whole). It seems like the consensus is that FITD has a few very good tracks but on the whole it is 2nd tier Macca relative to Post Beatles' Albums. The other prevalent comment on the negative side is that Paul should have done a total Paul/Elvis collaborative album. That is understandable to me based on the really good Demo CD of Paul/Elvis songs done in that early burst of the collaboration. It is a relatively easy criticism to make just listening to the 2nd CD. Although the songs were demos, for a fan it is an exciting performance and all the "what if's" thoughts go through one's head. In fact, many of the critiques given by the music press on the new package allude to precisely that idea. What this does (whether fairly or unfairly) is, in my opinion, takes away from the finished product. I noticed a couple of reviews almost totally ignore some of the good McCartney only tracks just focusing on the "What if's" possibilities. Just one person's opinion here but I have been loving the 2017 Remaster. And in my opinion, some of the McCartney only songs are top tier Macca solo songs. I especially love the first eight songs on FITD (up to This One). Driving in the car, I don't even consider skipping one of them. Some people don't like the overproduction on some of FITD. I understand this feeling for a bare bones approach especially after hearing the demos on Disc 2. But to my ears, the production on the first eight tracks of FITD are not a negative and actually enhance the songs to a large degree. To me, the finished production on My Brave Face enhances the demo of My Brave Face on Disc 2. I like both a lot. And the biggest surprise to me on the 2017 Remaster are the next three tracks (Rough Ride, You Want Her Too, and Distractions). I don't remember liking them as much as I now do. They just seem to have more punch. There doesn't seem to be much of a middle on Rough Ride even from the music press. Some really like it and others totally dismiss it. I personally like the funky drums, horns and Paul's vocal. Again, one of the things I love about Paul's music is his diversity. I remember liking Distractions way back when but I like it better now... the jazzy orchestration and Paul's singing. One of his most underrated Solo songs in my opinion. Of course you will have "harder core rock critics" who will dismiss songs like Distraction as being too soft. I even read a couple of "rock" critics even dismissing Put it There. One thing that Susy talked about in an earlier post is Paul's diversity. I love Paul's diverse styles and FITD really has this. This includes both the Elvis collaborative songs and the Paul only songs. We have a recent thread on Paul's best 3 albums...Post Beatles. If I divide them between the 70's/Wings' period and Solo (Tug of War on), I would have 5 Paul Solo Albums as Top Tier and FITD would be one of them along with Tug, Flaming pie, Chaos and MAF. Of course this is only one opinion. Did I say I'm really enjoying the FITD Remaster? Just kidding.
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Squid:
favoritething:
jimmix:
What will be the next album or albums to be remastered and release in a deluxe box set? And then later, nominated for a Grammy. What's Left...So Far Wild Life (1971) (Wings) Red Rose Speedway (1973) (Paul McCartney & Wings) London Town (197 (Wings) Back to the Egg (1979) (Wings) Give My Regards to Broad Street (1984) Press to Play (1986) Choba B CCCP (198 Tripping the Live Fantastic (1990) (Lumpy Trousers - that one was my favorite) Unplugged (The Official Bootleg) (1991) Off the Ground (1993) Paul Is Live (1993) Flaming Pie (1997) Run Devil Run (1999) Driving Rain (2001) Back in the U.S. (2002) Back in the World (2003) Chaos and Creation in the Backyard (2005) Memory Almost Full (2007) Good Evening New York City (2009) Kisses on the Bottom (2012) New (2013)
This is actually what's left. Not sure what to think, since they're not teasing any upcoming releases in the new package. "Flaming Pie" seems like a natural next entry, although seven tracks from that were on "Pure McCartney" last year, and they were all newly remastered. It could be that they just start from scratch and rethink the whole campaign over again.
I find it unlikely that post 2000 albums will be reissued any time soon. Most likely a combo of Wild Life/RRS or London Town/Back to the Egg; at least that will get Wings out of the way. Then Flaming Pie. That is, if the series continues at all as it's been so badly thought through that I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's over already. Whatever the archive series was meant to achieve it hasn't succeeded on any level. And at this rate it will take 15 years just to put Paul's albums back on the shelves in a reissue campaign that lasts as long as the Beatles and Wings combined, almost.
Again - what do you mean by "hasn't succeeded on any level". That's a big claim and you should support it/justify it...
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briaboy:
Squid:
favoritething:
jimmix:
What will be the next album or albums to be remastered and release in a deluxe box set? And then later, nominated for a Grammy. What's Left...So Far Wild Life (1971) (Wings) Red Rose Speedway (1973) (Paul McCartney & Wings) London Town (197 (Wings) Back to the Egg (1979) (Wings) Give My Regards to Broad Street (1984) Press to Play (1986) Choba B CCCP (198 Tripping the Live Fantastic (1990) (Lumpy Trousers - that one was my favorite) Unplugged (The Official Bootleg) (1991) Off the Ground (1993) Paul Is Live (1993) Flaming Pie (1997) Run Devil Run (1999) Driving Rain (2001) Back in the U.S. (2002) Back in the World (2003) Chaos and Creation in the Backyard (2005) Memory Almost Full (2007) Good Evening New York City (2009) Kisses on the Bottom (2012) New (2013)
This is actually what's left. Not sure what to think, since they're not teasing any upcoming releases in the new package. "Flaming Pie" seems like a natural next entry, although seven tracks from that were on "Pure McCartney" last year, and they were all newly remastered. It could be that they just start from scratch and rethink the whole campaign over again.
I find it unlikely that post 2000 albums will be reissued any time soon. Most likely a combo of Wild Life/RRS or London Town/Back to the Egg; at least that will get Wings out of the way. Then Flaming Pie. That is, if the series continues at all as it's been so badly thought through that I wouldn't be at all surprised if it's over already. Whatever the archive series was meant to achieve it hasn't succeeded on any level. And at this rate it will take 15 years just to put Paul's albums back on the shelves in a reissue campaign that lasts as long as the Beatles and Wings combined, almost.
Again - what do you mean by "hasn't succeeded on any level". That's a big claim and you should support it/justify it...
I have to agree with briaboy, Squid.
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B J Conlee:
Getting back to the subject at hand...the 2017 Flowers in the Dirt Remaster (all packages). It seems like the consensus is that FITD has a few very good tracks but on the whole it is 2nd tier Macca relative to Post Beatles' Albums. The other prevalent comment on the negative side is that Paul should have done a total Paul/Elvis collaborative album. That is understandable to me based on the really good Demo CD of Paul/Elvis songs done in that early burst of the collaboration. It is a relatively easy criticism to make just listening to the 2nd CD. Although the songs were demos, for a fan it is an exciting performance and all the "what if's" thoughts go through one's head. In fact, many of the critiques given by the music press on the new package allude to precisely that idea. What this does (whether fairly or unfairly) is, in my opinion, takes away from the finished product. I noticed a couple of reviews almost totally ignore some of the good McCartney only tracks just focusing on the "What if's" possibilities.
But there's a whole other disc on the big deluxe set where these demos are re-done with a band. They're not quite "finished" sounding, but they don't leave a whole lot to the imagination for "what ifs" for the most part. They're nicely fleshed out band performances.
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B J Conlee:
Getting back to the subject at hand...the 2017 Flowers in the Dirt Remaster (all packages). The biggest complaint I see from fans (just go to Amazon) is the decision to make the B-sides "download only". As a boomer (a big part of Paul's fan base), I understand this. Why not make it as easy for the true fans as possible. Some boomers are either "technological challenged" or they just like the ease of a finished CD. There were quite a few fans on Amazon that downgraded the overall "grade" of the Set strictly because of that decision. That being an obvious negative from the jump about this remaster, my biggest surprise (on this Site especially) is the lack of love for the remastered, original 13 track CD. There has been very few superlatives given for FITD (whether the 2017 Remaster from a technical side or the album as a whole). It seems like the consensus is that FITD has a few very good tracks but on the whole it is 2nd tier Macca relative to Post Beatles' Albums. The other prevalent comment on the negative side is that Paul should have done a total Paul/Elvis collaborative album. That is understandable to me based on the really good Demo CD of Paul/Elvis songs done in that early burst of the collaboration. It is a relatively easy criticism to make just listening to the 2nd CD. Although the songs were demos, for a fan it is an exciting performance and all the "what if's" thoughts go through one's head. In fact, many of the critiques given by the music press on the new package allude to precisely that idea. What this does (whether fairly or unfairly) is, in my opinion, takes away from the finished product. I noticed a couple of reviews almost totally ignore some of the good McCartney only tracks just focusing on the "What if's" possibilities. Just one person's opinion here but I have been loving the 2017 Remaster. And in my opinion, some of the McCartney only songs are top tier Macca solo songs. I especially love the first eight songs on FITD (up to This One). Driving in the car, I don't even consider skipping one of them. Some people don't like the overproduction on some of FITD. I understand this feeling for a bare bones approach especially after hearing the demos on Disc 2. But to my ears, the production on the first eight tracks of FITD are not a negative and actually enhance the songs to a large degree. To me, the finished production on My Brave Face enhances the demo of My Brave Face on Disc 2. I like both a lot. And the biggest surprise to me on the 2017 Remaster are the next three tracks (Rough Ride, You Want Her Too, and Distractions). I don't remember liking them as much as I now do. They just seem to have more punch. There doesn't seem to be much of a middle on Rough Ride even from the music press. Some really like it and others totally dismiss it. I personally like the funky drums, horns and Paul's vocal. Again, one of the things I love about Paul's music is his diversity. I remember liking Distractions way back when but I like it better now... the jazzy orchestration and Paul's singing. One of his most underrated Solo songs in my opinion. Of course you will have "harder core rock critics" who will dismiss songs like Distraction as being too soft. I even read a couple of "rock" critics even dismissing Put it There. One thing that Susy talked about in an earlier post is Paul's diversity. I love Paul's diverse styles and FITD really has this. This includes both the Elvis collaborative songs and the Paul only songs. We have a recent thread on Paul's best 3 albums...Post Beatles. If I divide them between the 70's/Wings' period and Solo (Tug of War on), I would have 5 Paul Solo Albums as Top Tier and FITD would be one of them along with Tug, Flaming pie, Chaos and MAF. Of course this is only one opinion. Did I say I'm really enjoying the FITD Remaster? Just kidding.
________________________________________________________ Just to kind of finish up my thoughts above... Speaking of the production on FITD (1st 8 tracks especially) like My Brave Face, I really like the "finished" version of You Want Her Too. I like both versions (the album and the rawness of the demo on Disc 2). On FITD, I like the enhanced production...Elvis's intro keyboards and the ending orchestration. Besides liking the yin and yang of Paul and Elvis's vocals, I think that Chris Whitten's drumming really stands out. I mentioned Distractions earlier as being one of the McCartney only songs I really love, but I think it begins a whole bunch of the Macca only songs on FITD that are top notch. Distractions, We Got Married and Put It There are a threesome that you could put up against any 3 in a row on any Macca Solo album (think Tug of War and Flaming Pie). Continuing, I really like the variety of music on We Got Married and the Production as a whole. Some rock critics love to mock Paul's songs about "marriage bliss" but I think his lyrics here are especially "real" on the difficulties of marriage (he kind of continues this theme on Figure of Eight). And I love the soulful ending "It's not just a loving Machine... Again, one of the great things about being a Paul fan is diversity of different styles. What style is "We Got Married". Hard to define like trying to define Penny Lane. What else can be said about "Put It There" aside from the fact that it is one of Paul's best solo songs. It was nice that Paul did this classic live at least on one tour. Like Rough Ride, there is some division on Figure of Eight. I noticed that the Rolling Stone reviewer (Anthony DeCurtis I think is his name) loved Figure of Eight where others not so much. I really like it and was thrilled that Paul opened his tour in 1989 with it. Some people like the live versions (I do too) but I still like the rawness of the studio version and the fact it doesn't go on so long. I especially like Paul's raspy vocals and the middle part..."well, figure it out for yourself little girl". Love the way the melody totally changes direction. And finally I really like This One. Like Figure of Eight, it is an uptempo Pop-Rock song that most fans really like. These 5 songs in a row are the "Peak" of the Paul only songs. I do wish that Paul would have included a couple more Paul/Elvis songs (like 6 or even 7) to give more balance to FITD and to improve the last third of the album. Speaking the last third of FITD that is where, in my opinion, the album falls significantly flat. So frustration as a fan because (like always) Paul always has better choices because he is so prolific. Don't Be Careless Love is the only Paul/Elvis track that doesn't measure up to the potential I heard in the Demo (Disc 2). I like certain parts but I don't like Paul's lead too high vocal. Similar to Gratitude (on MAF) where I saw the song's potential but didn't like Paul's vocal performance. It doesn't happen often but here I think it does. The other factor is that I believe Paul had better collaborative songs he could have slotted in FITD. Talk about "what if's"...I think "Lovers that Never Were" on FlTD would have dramatically improved FITD...one of the best Paul/Elvis collaborations. Much better song than Don't be Careless in my opinion. He also had Back on My Feet and Tommy's Coming Home as potential replacements. The latter has a "Two of Us" Paul/John vibe that would have been great on the album. Elvis mentioned that Paul had a large imput on the song in one of the interviews so you think he could have placed a finished version on FITD. That Day is Done is the only song of the last 5 tracks that is top tier and a very good track. I really like the finish version as well as the more country flavored demo. Just wished that Paul had put That Day is Done in one of his live set lists at some point when he could really sing it (e.g. 2002) Would have love to hear Paul sing it live. It has the gospel/soul feel of Let It Be and I still remember hearing Paul sing Let It Be for the first time live during the 1989 tour. Certain songs are meant to be done live and "That Day is Done" is that type of song. The last 3 tracks are just subpar compared to the 1st 8. These are Macca penned songs and as I said, he had much better alternatives in my opinion. I don't mind How Many People because of the reggae feel, but how do you include the last 2 tracks when you have songs like Flying to My Home (another up tempo song) and Loveliest Things available. While Motor of Love begins all right, Paul crosses the line to Barry Manilowish type crooning and the production is way too lush in my opinion. And I still can't get into the last track. Well that is where being a huge Macca fan is frustrating. But as I said earlier, the 1st eight tracks plus That Day is Done still makes FITD a very enjoyable listen for me and I believe because of all the very good to great tracks, FITD is a top tier Macca Post Beatles album. One of Macca's great "Eight" as I have mentioned earlier.
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favoritething:
B J Conlee:
Getting back to the subject at hand...the 2017 Flowers in the Dirt Remaster (all packages). It seems like the consensus is that FITD has a few very good tracks but on the whole it is 2nd tier Macca relative to Post Beatles' Albums. The other prevalent comment on the negative side is that Paul should have done a total Paul/Elvis collaborative album. That is understandable to me based on the really good Demo CD of Paul/Elvis songs done in that early burst of the collaboration. It is a relatively easy criticism to make just listening to the 2nd CD. Although the songs were demos, for a fan it is an exciting performance and all the "what if's" thoughts go through one's head. In fact, many of the critiques given by the music press on the new package allude to precisely that idea. What this does (whether fairly or unfairly) is, in my opinion, takes away from the finished product. I noticed a couple of reviews almost totally ignore some of the good McCartney only tracks just focusing on the "What if's" possibilities.
But there's a whole other disc on the big deluxe set where these demos are re-done with a band. They're not quite "finished" sounding, but they don't leave a whole lot to the imagination for "what ifs" for the most part. They're nicely fleshed out band performances.
______________________________________________________ Favorite Thing, I realize what you are saying. I just didn't want to spend that kind of money for the fleshed out band performances. What I was really referring to, was a couple of comments (whether from fans or from the music press) that Paul should have just done an "all Paul/Elvis" album on FITD and thus leave out the Paul only tracks. You could see that possibility since there were enough songs. But my point in an earlier post is that it wouldn't have been practical for these reasons: *Paul wanted so much to do a World Tour after completing FITD. Doing an all Paul/Elvis album would have put pressure on both of them to tour together *Elvis was in the "peak" of his own career. Would he do 5-6 songs from that type of album and just walk off the stage while Paul did the rest of his 2 hour show. Elvis has his own band (Attractions) and was in the peak of his career. It would make little sense for Elvis to do like 80 dates when he could easily sell out his own shows. *Paul had a bunch of good songs that he already written. He wanted some of those for his follow up Tour. Again, it wasn't practical in the greater scheme of things to do an "all Paul/Elvis album". Nobody knows for sure but I think Paul and Elvis always had the idea of splitting the songs into their own albums which they ended up doing. I personally would have preferred more of the collaborations on FITD. Instead of 4, I would have loved like 6 to make FITD an even better album. As I have mentioned on these posts, putting a combination of "The Lovers That Never Were", Back on my Feet and maybe Tommy's Coming Home on the original FITD and nixing the last 2 original tracks would have made FITD one of his best solo albums ever. Just my opinion, but I think many fans would agree. Putting that aside, there are some wonderful Paul only tracks on FITD. Actually just about all of them were subsequently done on the Tour so I am so glad that he did split the Paul/Elvis songs with the Paul only songs on the album. As I said, my only complaint is that I wished he would have included a couple more of the really good Paul/Elvis songs and take out the inferior Paul songs (the last 2 tracks especially).