New album by Ringo, titled Postcards from Paradise
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javilu:
Ok lads, I've bought the CD and a few songs grew on me but still most compositions are weak, predictable and pedestrian. Touch and go, Rory and Not looking back are decent tracks, the rest gets a Nay from me.
That's fine, it's your opinion. But I've noticed this. Whether people like or hate the album... They always point towards Rory and the Hurricanes as a stand out. Everyone seems to love it, myself included. Can't disagree with it... I'm just saying I've noticed this. Love or hate, that opening track seems to be everyone's favourite Eh, I will say it is probably one of Ringo's best album openers. Probably up there with I'm The Greatest.
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DrummerFromFife:
javilu:
Ok lads, I've bought the CD and a few songs grew on me but still most compositions are weak, predictable and pedestrian. Touch and go, Rory and Not looking back are decent tracks, the rest gets a Nay from me.
That's fine, it's your opinion. But I've noticed this. Whether people like or hate the album... They always point towards Rory and the Hurricanes as a stand out. Everyone seems to love it, myself included. Can't disagree with it... I'm just saying I've noticed this. Love or hate, that opening track seems to be everyone's favourite Eh, I will say it is probably one of Ringo's best album openers. Probably up there with I'm The Greatest.
Agreed, it is Ringo doing what he does best: retro rock tracks with lots of fun thrown in. Now when he tries to reggae or do something serious the magic leaves lol.
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javilu:
DrummerFromFife:
javilu:
Ok lads, I've bought the CD and a few songs grew on me but still most compositions are weak, predictable and pedestrian. Touch and go, Rory and Not looking back are decent tracks, the rest gets a Nay from me.
That's fine, it's your opinion. But I've noticed this. Whether people like or hate the album... They always point towards Rory and the Hurricanes as a stand out. Everyone seems to love it, myself included. Can't disagree with it... I'm just saying I've noticed this. Love or hate, that opening track seems to be everyone's favourite Eh, I will say it is probably one of Ringo's best album openers. Probably up there with I'm The Greatest.
Agreed, it is Ringo doing what he does best: retro rock tracks with lots of fun thrown in. Now when he tries to reggae or do something serious the magic leaves lol.
Oh I don't know. One of my favourite songs from Ringo, Wings, has a bit of a reggae sound. Country, Rock, Blues, Reggae, Pop. Ringo cannot disappoint in any way whatsoever, not even with his Disco attempt in the 70s, with Ringo the 4th.
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Nothing wrong with "Ringo the 4th". It's just one those records that has gotten a bad reputation. It's a little bit disco, r&b, rock and pop... partly saturday night fever and sunday morning hangover. A melting pot of styles that perhaps became more popular in the 80s. I think Ringo should remaster and reissue his 70's-80's albums. The Ringo Starr Archive Collection.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
Nothing wrong with "Ringo the 4th". It's just one those records that has gotten a bad reputation. It's a little bit disco, r&b, rock and pop... partly saturday night fever and sunday morning hangover. A melting pot of styles that perhaps became more popular in the 80s. I think Ringo should remaster and reissue his 70's-80's albums. The Ringo Starr Archive Collection.
Ringo the 4th is crap, but I agree with the rest of your post
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Hendrix Ibsen:
Nothing wrong with "Ringo the 4th". It's just one those records that has gotten a bad reputation. It's a little bit disco, r&b, rock and pop... partly saturday night fever and sunday morning hangover. A melting pot of styles that perhaps became more popular in the 80s. I think Ringo should remaster and reissue his 70's-80's albums. The Ringo Starr Archive Collection.
People have complained that Ringo doesn't suit the disco style... I don't really see the problem. Some of the songs are really good. It's no masterpiece of an album, but I can't really call it the worst, not with the atrocious Rotogravure album out there... I can at least call it better than Bad Boy though.
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"Rotogravure" is pretty good to me, I think it follows the 'formula' of "Ringo" and "Goodnight Vienna" to a degree, it's almost like a trilogy. With "Ringo the 4th" he goes for something else, with the disco vibe and stuff. I don't think it's a masterpiece either but it sounds inspired to me. there's plenty of good musicians on it. "Bad Boy" I think sounds like he was making an album while thinking of something else. I still don't think it's a terrible album, but you can hear that he was running out of steam.
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javilu:
Hendrix Ibsen:
Nothing wrong with "Ringo the 4th". It's just one those records that has gotten a bad reputation. It's a little bit disco, r&b, rock and pop... partly saturday night fever and sunday morning hangover. A melting pot of styles that perhaps became more popular in the 80s. I think Ringo should remaster and reissue his 70's-80's albums. The Ringo Starr Archive Collection.
Ringo the 4th is crap, but I agree with the rest of your post
Nah, I can't call it crap. Only albums I can really badmouth are Bad Boy, which is overall pretty bland and forgettable, and Ringo's Rotogravure, which was and still is the worst album I have ever heard from Ringo. Ringo the 4th still has a number of songs that I enjoy... It's not brilliant, but I can still get some enjoyment out of it
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DrummerFromFife:
Hendrix Ibsen:
Nothing wrong with "Ringo the 4th". It's just one those records that has gotten a bad reputation. It's a little bit disco, r&b, rock and pop... partly saturday night fever and sunday morning hangover. A melting pot of styles that perhaps became more popular in the 80s. I think Ringo should remaster and reissue his 70's-80's albums. The Ringo Starr Archive Collection.
People have complained that Ringo doesn't suit the disco style... I don't really see the problem. Some of the songs are really good. It's no masterpiece of an album, but I can't really call it the worst, not with the atrocious Rotogravure album out there... I can at least call it better than Bad Boy though.
I kinda liked Ringo the 4th, but haven't listened to it in ages. Maybe I'll put it on tonight.
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OK. New topic of conversation for this album. When Ringo goes back on tour in October, he'll no doubt be performing a few songs from this album in his show, as per the norm for the past 23 years. Does anyone wish to make any guesses as to which songs he'll be adding to the show? Me, personally, I've got my eyes on Rory and the Hurricanes, and Island in the Sun. I have a feeling that Rory will become the new Choose Love. If he's not performing the song completely on drums, he'll be down front for the first half, leading up to the drums for the last verse, drum solo, and chorus. As for Island in the Sun, well, come on. It's the first song done by the All Starr Band. The very same All Starr Band he'll be promoting the album with. It's a perfect candidate
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DrummerFromFife:
beatlesfanrandy:
JoeySmith:
Ringo was nowhere near as innovative as the other 3 when it came to musicianship, with the exceptions of Rain and A Day in the Life. Paul had to teach Ringo how to be innovative on Ticket to Ride. I actually prefer Paul's drumming on the later Beatles'/early solo records as it was far more interesting. Get Back, for example, sounds so thin and boring with Ringo's plodding style & could have been much more rich & dynamic with more creative drumming. Most praise Ringo for a "steady beat", but many of the Beatles' songs screamed for dynamic drumming. IMO, Beatles's songs would have sounded so much better with a Keith Moon on drums.
Ringo's drumming on She Loves You and I Want to Hold Your Hand is revolutionary! Nobody heard drumming like that on records before. And he played like crazy live. See the Royal Variety Performance and the Washington DC Concert if you doubt it. Keith Moon was fine for The Who. Not for The Beatles!
Since we're talking about exceptional drumming of Richard Starkey from 1962 to 1969... What are peoples' thoughts on What You're Doing? That's probably one of my favourite drum pieces in the history of Beatles music
Paul recently said that Ringo always had his back. That song is a perfect example. Everything is so perfect about it. Absolutely perfect. Love it!!! Quite recently a columnist in the Washington Post, who has his little band on the side, in which he's the drummer, was commenting about the great difficulty it was in trying to drum the way Ringo did; to play what he played. He said Beatles' songs were deceptively simple because we are all so familiar with them, they were part of our collective DNA's, but what Ringo did was very very hard to try and duplicate. He said he simply could not understand why Ringo seemed to never got the credit due him. I wrote and thanked him. He commented back to me that Ringo was perfect for the Beatles, not only for his skills as a drummer, but because he had the perfect personality for the band. He was right on both counts.
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DrummerFromFife:
OK. New topic of conversation for this album. When Ringo goes back on tour in October, he'll no doubt be performing a few songs from this album in his show, as per the norm for the past 23 years. Does anyone wish to make any guesses as to which songs he'll be adding to the show? Me, personally, I've got my eyes on Rory and the Hurricanes, and Island in the Sun. I have a feeling that Rory will become the new Choose Love. If he's not performing the song completely on drums, he'll be down front for the first half, leading up to the drums for the last verse, drum solo, and chorus. As for Island in the Sun, well, come on. It's the first song done by the All Starr Band. The very same All Starr Band he'll be promoting the album with. It's a perfect candidate
I agree on both those songs. I think he might play; 'You Bring The Party Down' That's my favorite on this CD.
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dcshark:
DrummerFromFife:
OK. New topic of conversation for this album. When Ringo goes back on tour in October, he'll no doubt be performing a few songs from this album in his show, as per the norm for the past 23 years. Does anyone wish to make any guesses as to which songs he'll be adding to the show? Me, personally, I've got my eyes on Rory and the Hurricanes, and Island in the Sun. I have a feeling that Rory will become the new Choose Love. If he's not performing the song completely on drums, he'll be down front for the first half, leading up to the drums for the last verse, drum solo, and chorus. As for Island in the Sun, well, come on. It's the first song done by the All Starr Band. The very same All Starr Band he'll be promoting the album with. It's a perfect candidate
I agree on both those songs. I think he might play; 'You Bring The Party Down' That's my favorite on this CD.
Well, I suppose, if he does more than two songs, that's certainly a candidate, expecially since the co writer of that song is the current lead guitarist in the All Starrs. The thing about this album, as opposed to Ringo 2012, and maybe Y Not, is that there's many many possible candidates. Quite a number of them sound like they could be performed live. Rory Bring the Party Down Postcards Island in the Sun Let Love Lead They all sound like they could be done well live... Although, a small part of me would love to see a Ringo/Gregg drum off with Bamboula
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Bruce M.:
DrummerFromFife:
Hendrix Ibsen:
Nothing wrong with "Ringo the 4th". It's just one those records that has gotten a bad reputation. It's a little bit disco, r&b, rock and pop... partly saturday night fever and sunday morning hangover. A melting pot of styles that perhaps became more popular in the 80s. I think Ringo should remaster and reissue his 70's-80's albums. The Ringo Starr Archive Collection.
People have complained that Ringo doesn't suit the disco style... I don't really see the problem. Some of the songs are really good. It's no masterpiece of an album, but I can't really call it the worst, not with the atrocious Rotogravure album out there... I can at least call it better than Bad Boy though.
I kinda liked Ringo the 4th, but haven't listened to it in ages. Maybe I'll put it on tonight.
Yep, it's been a while since I played it myself. it's one of those albums I'd really like to hear a remaster of, even more than "Ringo".
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Hendrix Ibsen:
"Rotogravure" is pretty good to me, I think it follows the 'formula' of "Ringo" and "Goodnight Vienna" to a degree, it's almost like a trilogy. With "Ringo the 4th" he goes for something else, with the disco vibe and stuff. I don't think it's a masterpiece either but it sounds inspired to me. there's plenty of good musicians on it. "Bad Boy" I think sounds like he was making an album while thinking of something else. I still don't think it's a terrible album, but you can hear that he was running out of steam.
Rotogravure is a step down from previous albums, mainly because the Beatle magic was waning and because Arif Mardin was no Richard Perry at the controls. It still has enjoyable moments like "Hey Baby", "You don't know me at all" and guilty pleasure songs like "Las Brisas" or "Cryin'". Ringo the 4th has bad vocals, very few decent songs and lots of crap. Bad Boy is not much better but I like it more, for songs like "Who needs a heart", "Heart On My Sleeve", "Hard Times" and "Lipstrick Traces" win over 90% of 4th, but the rest is still crap lol. I wish Ringo would have continued working with Richard Perry. regarding the songs I'd like to hear live from Postcards, I think Rory and Touch and go would be fun. I like it when you're around me I was blessed the moment you found me From daybreak to dark night You make everything all right
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I'm playing "Ringo the 4th" right now. It's "Gave It All Up" at the moment, it's a bit countryish and Ringo singing with a tired hangover voice, kind of Kris Kristofferson... I think it's a very nice ballad. While I was trying to write this down is it now "Out on the Street", uptempo r&b wih horns and a female backing choir. A danceable track. I read the credits and you have Steve Gadd on drums on this album, Tony Levin on bass... very competent musicians. I'd love to hear "Ringo the 4th" remastered. Now it's "Can She Do It Like She Dances", another swinging r&b track with horns. Ringo is a bit hoarse on this album, not as Dark Ho(a)rse as Harrison... It doens't bother me. it makes it sound somewhere between a saturday night fever and a sunday morning hangover. Now it's "Sneaking Sally Through the Alley". A bit funky... horns, a feamle backing choir... "It's No Secret". it's not a very strong song, a bit elevator like, it lacks something memorable, still ok... "Gypsies in Flight", kind of countryish like "Gave it all Up", with a steel guitar. not as good to mye ears but nice.. And now the last track, "Simple Love Song" is half pop, half disco arrangements. Catchy, I like it. Overall... Pretty good, made by a drummer without a band. I have some records by the virtuoso Billy Cobham, one of the best drummers ever, but as far as I can remember, is only Phil Collins up there with Ringo as a pop star singing solo artist drummer.
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What about Don Henley? Keith Moon's solo album sucks dog's bollocks as well
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I have an 80s single with Don Henley, "The Boys of Summer". it's okay, guess I'm a bigger fan of ex-Beatles than ex-Eagles. I have all Ringo albums. "Two Sides of the Moon" I think features Ringo. I've heard it but I've yet to collect it.
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Hendrix Ibsen:
I have an 80s single with Don Henley, "The Boys of Summer". it's okay, guess I'm a bigger fan of ex-Beatles than ex-Eagles. I have all Ringo albums. "Two Sides of the Moon" I think features Ringo. I've heard it but I've yet to collect it.
I got a 2 CD version of the Keith Moon album. Bought it on a used CD site long ago, not sure it is easy to find but worth it for the completists.
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Okay, catching up with the latest in this thread... As for songs to do live, "Rory" and "Bamboula" seem like the obvious choices -- the latter would be an absolute hoot live. But there are easily half a dozen tracks that would work pretty well live. I'm seeing Ringo's rescheduled San Francisco show in October, so I sure hope he does more than two. And I did play side 1 of "Ringo the 4th" last night -- the side I remember liking better when it came out. But now, uh... not so much. "Tango All Night" is the sort of classic, playful Ringo that would have fit in just fine on "Ringo" or "Goodnight Vienna," but most of the rest really doesn't work. He's way out of his vocal comfort zone much of the time, and there were a few moments when the thought struck me that he sounds drunk. And most of the time he sounds like he's trying to be something he isn't. I think the discomfort level on this album is more obvious because I've been listening to "Postcards" lately. The new album is the work of a man totally at ease with himself, doing what he wants and having a good time. There's not a millisecond of "Ringo the 4th" that gives off that vibe (side one at least, though I doubt I will suddenly love side 2)