Those Occasional Beatles Biopics
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I'm not trying to be a pushy guest or an idiot who thinks that he knows everything of which I know little. But I dislike deification. Must we deify the past, as though it comes as a solemn passing? A "Jesus Christ"? What I would like to see is a somewhat subversive, humorous (hysterical) biopic about how it is to be Young in those early dog days which are euphemistically referred to as "those salad days". The beginnings back in the old home town and in Hamburg before things got really good. The snafus and the malfunctions. Where Nobody knew them. Where a young Johnny exclaims, "We are The Moondogs!!!" Howwwlll. Ow-Ow-Ow-Hopwwwwlll. And later, Ringo arrives as "The Pro" with The Kit and the business cards and answering service client and perhaps the transportation for his kit while other members take the bus, the ferry and the train. Or thumb a ride. Or get bumped in Hamburg by the strippers. Else sleep in the bath for the night. Well. That's all.
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You mean like the movie that's already been made like that called Backbeat?
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Or Birth Of The Beatles?
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I'll have to look those up.
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Hmmm... IMDB lists "Backbeat" as Biography | Drama | Music And they list "Birth of The Beatles as Biography | Drama | Music I find dramatic interpretation to be deifying. Actually, I am looking for a biopic that is much closer to "The Bed Sitting Room", but based on a true story. Or maybe like "A Hard Day's Night" but without the in-promotion and before the fame. Just starting out in the bed sitting room. http://www.imdb.com/video/screenplay/vi493788441/
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Nowhere Boy? http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1266029/
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Nooo. IMDB lists "Nowhere Boy" as Biography | Drama | Music Too deifying and probably not at all funny in a real life way.
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Audley, you are way too picky!
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Well, y'know. I remember the fun and the humor, and Soupy Sales doing The Mouser! It's about those good ol' days.
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Well, now you have your assignment! Go make the non-deifying bio-pic of your dreams!
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Audley's Piano:
Nooo. IMDB lists "Nowhere Boy" as Biography | Drama | Music Too deifying and probably not at all funny in a real life way.
I did not find Nowhere Boy to be "deifying" at all. As Paul has pointed out, it wasn't as factual as it should have been, but it's a pretty good look at the life and times.
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Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
I thought "Backbeat" did a hatchet job on Paul. Paul comes across as a jealous, power-hungry band member who would do anything to kick the great artist Stu out of the band because he couldnt play bass good enough & he was monopolizing all of John's attention.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
Superficial? What do you mean by that exactly? It "told it all" (even his near nervous breakdown) and the only "mistake" was saying that Mary was born shortly before their 2nd anniversary!
I'm one of the few who love The Linda McCartney Story and I cry at the end every time when she dies. My friend Tim Piper plays John. -
JoeySmith:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
I thought "Backbeat" did a hatchet job on Paul. Paul comes across as a jealous, power-hungry band member who would do anything to kick the great artist Stu out of the band because he couldnt play bass good enough & he was monopolizing all of John's attention.
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Nancy R:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
Superficial? What do you mean by that exactly? It "told it all" (even his near nervous breakdown) and the only "mistake" was saying that Mary was born shortly before their 2nd anniversary!
I'm one of the few who love The Linda McCartney Story and I cry at the end every time when she dies. My friend Tim Piper plays John.Only saw it once, initial impression it was a bit shallow and glib, in parts. Didn't like how it started out, with Linda having a one night stand with Mick Jagger. They could have found a more respectful tasteful way to begin that movie, one would think. You think? I appreciate "Backbeat" for its artsy vibe, its overall atmospheric subtle ambience. It's true the Paul character came across as rather snarky and bad-tempered; they could have depicted him as a nicer lad. He's a sweet man today and I'm sure could be nice and sweet as a youth, at times, and deep down. Otherwise could not have composed his compassionate masterpieces "Let It Be," "Eleanor Rigby," "The Long and Winding Road," etc. He was still quite young when he wrote those.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Nancy R:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
Superficial? What do you mean by that exactly? It "told it all" (even his near nervous breakdown) and the only "mistake" was saying that Mary was born shortly before their 2nd anniversary!
I'm one of the few who love The Linda McCartney Story and I cry at the end every time when she dies. My friend Tim Piper plays John.Only saw it once, initial impression it was a bit shallow and glib, in parts. Didn't like how it started out, with Linda having a one night stand with Mick Jagger. They could have found a more respectful tasteful way to begin that movie, one would think. You think? I appreciate "Backbeat" for its artsy vibe, its overall atmospheric subtle ambience. It's true the Paul character came across as rather snarky and bad-tempered; they could have depicted him as a nicer lad. He's a sweet man today and I'm sure could be nice and sweet as a youth, at times, and deep down. Otherwise could not have composed his compassionate masterpieces "Let It Be," "Eleanor Rigby," "The Long and Winding Road," etc. He was still quite young when he wrote those.
Bio pics like Backbeat and Birth of the Beatles are not concerned with how John, Paul, George, and Ringo could be "nice and sweet" at home or off stage with friends and family. Paul did not become second in command in the biggest band in the world because he was sweet, he did it being tough and nit picky and pushy. Which is part of who he is. As far as him being a "sweet man" today, you really don't know that. All you know is the image he feeds you, which is that he is a sweet man. I suspect he has that side, but also a tough, not so sweet, not so nice side that has made him a billionaire today. I doubt he would even disagree with my assessment.
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RMartinez:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Nancy R:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
Superficial? What do you mean by that exactly? It "told it all" (even his near nervous breakdown) and the only "mistake" was saying that Mary was born shortly before their 2nd anniversary!
I'm one of the few who love The Linda McCartney Story and I cry at the end every time when she dies. My friend Tim Piper plays John.Only saw it once, initial impression it was a bit shallow and glib, in parts. Didn't like how it started out, with Linda having a one night stand with Mick Jagger. They could have found a more respectful tasteful way to begin that movie, one would think. You think? I appreciate "Backbeat" for its artsy vibe, its overall atmospheric subtle ambience. It's true the Paul character came across as rather snarky and bad-tempered; they could have depicted him as a nicer lad. He's a sweet man today and I'm sure could be nice and sweet as a youth, at times, and deep down. Otherwise could not have composed his compassionate masterpieces "Let It Be," "Eleanor Rigby," "The Long and Winding Road," etc. He was still quite young when he wrote those.
Bio pics like Backbeat and Birth of the Beatles are not concerned with how John, Paul, George, and Ringo could be "nice and sweet" at home or off stage with friends and family. Paul did not become second in command in the biggest band in the world because he was sweet, he did it being tough and nit picky and pushy. Which is part of who he is. As far as him being a "sweet man" today, you really don't know that. All you know is the image he feeds you, which is that he is a sweet man. I suspect he has that side, but also a tough, not so sweet, not so nice side that has made him a billionaire today. I doubt he would even disagree with my assessment.
I'm sure he has a lot of "Yes Men" around him. And back to The Linda McCartney Story--Susy, it was the truth (about her and Jagger) and the movie did not begin with that! It started with Linda's showing of her photography at a gallery in perhaps the early '90s, then the story is a flashback.
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Oh. I only saw that once (The Linda McCartney Story) and didn't remember correctly. Paul has opened a new Linda McCartney instagram
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Mick Jagger?? Now I'm trying to remember who threw the stone at the window. Ah, my poor memory of that night on CBS. Was it John who threw the stone at The McCartney's window and then shouted something like, "What is Wrong With You McCartney? How did that scene go?
