Those Occasional Beatles Biopics
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Well, y'know. I remember the fun and the humor, and Soupy Sales doing The Mouser! It's about those good ol' days.
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Well, now you have your assignment! Go make the non-deifying bio-pic of your dreams!
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Audley's Piano:
Nooo. IMDB lists "Nowhere Boy" as Biography | Drama | Music Too deifying and probably not at all funny in a real life way.
I did not find Nowhere Boy to be "deifying" at all. As Paul has pointed out, it wasn't as factual as it should have been, but it's a pretty good look at the life and times.
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Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
I thought "Backbeat" did a hatchet job on Paul. Paul comes across as a jealous, power-hungry band member who would do anything to kick the great artist Stu out of the band because he couldnt play bass good enough & he was monopolizing all of John's attention.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
Superficial? What do you mean by that exactly? It "told it all" (even his near nervous breakdown) and the only "mistake" was saying that Mary was born shortly before their 2nd anniversary! I'm one of the few who love The Linda McCartney Story and I cry at the end every time when she dies. My friend Tim Piper plays John.
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JoeySmith:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
I thought "Backbeat" did a hatchet job on Paul. Paul comes across as a jealous, power-hungry band member who would do anything to kick the great artist Stu out of the band because he couldnt play bass good enough & he was monopolizing all of John's attention.
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Nancy R:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
Superficial? What do you mean by that exactly? It "told it all" (even his near nervous breakdown) and the only "mistake" was saying that Mary was born shortly before their 2nd anniversary! I'm one of the few who love The Linda McCartney Story and I cry at the end every time when she dies. My friend Tim Piper plays John.
Only saw it once, initial impression it was a bit shallow and glib, in parts. Didn't like how it started out, with Linda having a one night stand with Mick Jagger. They could have found a more respectful tasteful way to begin that movie, one would think. You think? I appreciate "Backbeat" for its artsy vibe, its overall atmospheric subtle ambience. It's true the Paul character came across as rather snarky and bad-tempered; they could have depicted him as a nicer lad. He's a sweet man today and I'm sure could be nice and sweet as a youth, at times, and deep down. Otherwise could not have composed his compassionate masterpieces "Let It Be," "Eleanor Rigby," "The Long and Winding Road," etc. He was still quite young when he wrote those.
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SusyLuvsPaul:
Nancy R:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
Superficial? What do you mean by that exactly? It "told it all" (even his near nervous breakdown) and the only "mistake" was saying that Mary was born shortly before their 2nd anniversary! I'm one of the few who love The Linda McCartney Story and I cry at the end every time when she dies. My friend Tim Piper plays John.
Only saw it once, initial impression it was a bit shallow and glib, in parts. Didn't like how it started out, with Linda having a one night stand with Mick Jagger. They could have found a more respectful tasteful way to begin that movie, one would think. You think? I appreciate "Backbeat" for its artsy vibe, its overall atmospheric subtle ambience. It's true the Paul character came across as rather snarky and bad-tempered; they could have depicted him as a nicer lad. He's a sweet man today and I'm sure could be nice and sweet as a youth, at times, and deep down. Otherwise could not have composed his compassionate masterpieces "Let It Be," "Eleanor Rigby," "The Long and Winding Road," etc. He was still quite young when he wrote those.
Bio pics like Backbeat and Birth of the Beatles are not concerned with how John, Paul, George, and Ringo could be "nice and sweet" at home or off stage with friends and family. Paul did not become second in command in the biggest band in the world because he was sweet, he did it being tough and nit picky and pushy. Which is part of who he is. As far as him being a "sweet man" today, you really don't know that. All you know is the image he feeds you, which is that he is a sweet man. I suspect he has that side, but also a tough, not so sweet, not so nice side that has made him a billionaire today. I doubt he would even disagree with my assessment.
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RMartinez:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Nancy R:
SusyLuvsPaul:
Love "Backbeat." Going to finally watch "Nowhere Boy" which I have on DVD. I just remembered that old t.v. movie about Linda McCartney--it was pretty superficial. She and Paul deserved better.
Superficial? What do you mean by that exactly? It "told it all" (even his near nervous breakdown) and the only "mistake" was saying that Mary was born shortly before their 2nd anniversary! I'm one of the few who love The Linda McCartney Story and I cry at the end every time when she dies. My friend Tim Piper plays John.
Only saw it once, initial impression it was a bit shallow and glib, in parts. Didn't like how it started out, with Linda having a one night stand with Mick Jagger. They could have found a more respectful tasteful way to begin that movie, one would think. You think? I appreciate "Backbeat" for its artsy vibe, its overall atmospheric subtle ambience. It's true the Paul character came across as rather snarky and bad-tempered; they could have depicted him as a nicer lad. He's a sweet man today and I'm sure could be nice and sweet as a youth, at times, and deep down. Otherwise could not have composed his compassionate masterpieces "Let It Be," "Eleanor Rigby," "The Long and Winding Road," etc. He was still quite young when he wrote those.
Bio pics like Backbeat and Birth of the Beatles are not concerned with how John, Paul, George, and Ringo could be "nice and sweet" at home or off stage with friends and family. Paul did not become second in command in the biggest band in the world because he was sweet, he did it being tough and nit picky and pushy. Which is part of who he is. As far as him being a "sweet man" today, you really don't know that. All you know is the image he feeds you, which is that he is a sweet man. I suspect he has that side, but also a tough, not so sweet, not so nice side that has made him a billionaire today. I doubt he would even disagree with my assessment.
I'm sure he has a lot of "Yes Men" around him. And back to The Linda McCartney Story--Susy, it was the truth (about her and Jagger) and the movie did not begin with that! It started with Linda's showing of her photography at a gallery in perhaps the early '90s, then the story is a flashback.
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Oh. I only saw that once (The Linda McCartney Story) and didn't remember correctly. Paul has opened a new Linda McCartney instagram
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Mick Jagger?? Now I'm trying to remember who threw the stone at the window. Ah, my poor memory of that night on CBS. Was it John who threw the stone at The McCartney's window and then shouted something like, "What is Wrong With You McCartney? How did that scene go?
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Audley's Piano:
Mick Jagger?? Now I'm trying to remember who threw the stone at the window. Ah, my poor memory of that night on CBS. Was it John who threw the stone at The McCartney's window and then shouted something like, "What is Wrong With You McCartney? How did that scene go?
That was my friend Tim Piper as John! He just yells "McCartney!" He said they told him to find a big rock, climb over the gate, and throw it through the glass outer door! He looks around, finds a rock and goes to climb over the gate. Well, they had given him a jacket that was too small for him, and he said he had a hell of a time doing it! I think then, or at some point, Paul & Linda invite him in (Paul had not showed up for a recording set at Abbey Road because they were supposedly celebrating their 2nd anniversary--and Mary was just a baby! That was the only screw-up of the movie.) Then John took or tore up a drawing he had done that he had given Paul which was on the wall. I've seen the movie about 6 times, but not for a while. Every time I see Tim we crack up over that "jumping the gate" scene!
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Audley's Piano:
Mick Jagger?? Now I'm trying to remember who threw the stone at the window. Ah, my poor memory of that night on CBS.
Yeah, and then later when Paul is complaining about Mick Jagger saying he would never have his "old lady" in the band, Paul says "Screw Jagger!" and Linda replies, "I already did."
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Nancy R:
Audley's Piano:
Mick Jagger?? Now I'm trying to remember who threw the stone at the window. Ah, my poor memory of that night on CBS.
Yeah, and then later when Paul is complaining about Mick Jagger saying he would never have his "old lady" in the band, Paul says "Screw Jagger!" and Linda replies, "I already did."
Didn't Linda screw Jim Morrison too?
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jl4761:
Nancy R:
Audley's Piano:
Mick Jagger?? Now I'm trying to remember who threw the stone at the window. Ah, my poor memory of that night on CBS.
Yeah, and then later when Paul is complaining about Mick Jagger saying he would never have his "old lady" in the band, Paul says "Screw Jagger!" and Linda replies, "I already did."
Didn't Linda screw Jim Morrison too?
Yes, they had a fling in '66 or '67. There is a lengthy scene with the 2 of them talking, sitting in a window and later in bed.
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Nancy R:
jl4761:
Nancy R:
Audley's Piano:
Mick Jagger?? Now I'm trying to remember who threw the stone at the window. Ah, my poor memory of that night on CBS.
Yeah, and then later when Paul is complaining about Mick Jagger saying he would never have his "old lady" in the band, Paul says "Screw Jagger!" and Linda replies, "I already did."
Didn't Linda screw Jim Morrison too?
Yes, they had a fling in '66 or '67. There is a lengthy scene with the 2 of them talking, sitting in a window and later in bed.
Being a photographer, Linda must have screwed a lot of Rock Stars in the roaring 60's!!!
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jl4761:
Being a photographer, Linda must have screwed a lot of Rock Stars in the roaring 60's!!!
Yep, also Tim Buckley (father of Jeff Buckley if you know him), Chris Stamp (actor Terrance Stamp's brother), Warren Beatty, and also rumored Jimi Hendrix. This info is in the book Linda McCartney: The Biography by her friend Danny Field (which the movie was based on) P.S. The Beatles music in the movie was performed by my favorite tribute band The Fab Four!
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Nancy R:
Audley's Piano:
Mick Jagger?? Now I'm trying to remember who threw the stone at the window. Ah, my poor memory of that night on CBS. Was it John who threw the stone at The McCartney's window and then shouted something like, "What is Wrong With You McCartney? How did that scene go?
That was my friend Tim Piper as John! He just yells "McCartney!" He said they told him to find a big rock, climb over the gate, and throw it through the glass outer door! He looks around, finds a rock and goes to climb over the gate. Well, they had given him a jacket that was too small for him, and he said he had a hell of a time doing it! I think then, or at some point, Paul & Linda invite him in (Paul had not showed up for a recording set at Abbey Road because they were supposedly celebrating their 2nd anniversary--and Mary was just a baby! That was the only screw-up of the movie.) Then John took or tore up a drawing he had done that he had given Paul which was on the wall. I've seen the movie about 6 times, but not for a while. Every time I see Tim we crack up over that "jumping the gate" scene!
Nancy - Here is that scene. Start at 3'30".
"McCartney! Who the hell do you think you are!!" No offense to your friend Tim, but that scene is so bad it's funny Is your friend English?? Because he sounds nothing like Lennon, unless John grew an American accent in 1971. -
It was the 60s. Everyone was screwing everyone. Paul certainly was no celibate. I'm not saying it was a great thing or a bad thing. Just that, it is what it is. Or it was what it was.