Paul McCartney has officially become an oldies act.
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[quote="nellie apple"]?He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.? Albert Einstein I'm facinated that you have posted this quote. Have you actually thought about what Mr. Einstein was suggesting with such a quote?
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Another Day, Hi Hi Hi, Helen Wheels, Junior's Farm, Listen to What the Man Said, Silly Love Songs, Uncle Albert/Admiral Halsey, With a Little Luck, Goodnight Tonight, and No More Lonely Nights are all huge hits that he either hasn't performed in the past 30 years or EVER (except for Another Day, which he only performed a couple of times, IIRC). Most artists would die to have such a huge list of hits to pull out... but Paul ignores them. His success didn't end with the break-up of the Beatles...
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Paul's also mentioned that he thinks Waterfalls and Daytime Nighttime Suffering are two of his songs that he thinks are too often overlooked/forgotten... He could remind us of them if he actually performed them live.
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For those of you who cannot take any criticism of Paul McCartney, I suggest that you get a life. Thank you By the way, his version of the Hippy Hippy Shake was great.
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I have to say ...........I do wish they had done Helter Skelter...really and also Money.... and Twist and Shout but I know those are John songs...even though he did do Helter Skelter at Boston in '05. The house almost came down for that one....
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EleanorRigby19:
nellie apple:
rich n:
nellie apple:
Insanity! Forcing the 66 years old to do something, which he doesn't want to do! 99.99 of his fans adore his music and love him the way he is! So, please don't push so hard because everything you are hope for would only go to the trash bin. People would only blame Paul if his concert at Liverpool Sound were a flop! Not a fan!
I agree. While I'm sure we could all dream up our 'ultimate' Paul McCartney set list, there's no way anyone should be disappointed with what he's delved out in all his tours since the 1989-90 world tour. Additionally, he works his butt off while on stage and seemingly wants to ensure we (the audience) thoroughly enjoys ourselves.
You are a real true Paul McCartney Fan ever.
the ignorance of some people... ...i wonder if it's because youre old.
I'm not sure why you say that...I've caught every tour that Paul has done (in the US) since the 1989/90 world tour and one time not so long ago, I decided to count how many songs I've heard him sing live/in person...and the answer was something close to 100 songs. That's not too bad and doesn't sound like the person who's accused of being inflexible with his set lists...
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Yeah... Long Tall Sally rocks.....good suggestion....man I love that tune....
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having seen him 3 times in a year,i thank my lucky stars that the opportunity came al0ng. i enjoyed sunday immensely, the crowd singing coming from right at the back (i was four from the front) was spinetingling to me, nevermind the effect on paul himself. this concert was about the city, it's people and it's second favourite son. it was the perfect way to end five glorious days back after an absence of nine years, meeting old friends and making new ones (some of them quite fit). so ta very much paul, you made me very happy. oh and the lady that pinched me bum.
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BOYCIE:
Paul's new setlist for his next tour. This isn't necessarily my favourites but a balanced list of songs. BIRTHDAY JUNIOR'S FARM PAPERBACK WRITER MAYBE I'M AMAZED FOR NO ONE FIXING A HOLE SHE'S LEAVING HOME I'M LOOKING THROUGH YOU LISTEN TO WHAT THE MAN SAID NO MORE LONELY NIGHTS I WILL TWO OF US THINGS WE SAID TODAY AND I LOVE HER JUNK TOO MANY PEOPLE UNCLE ALBERT/ADMIRAL HALSEY SHE CAME IN THROUGH THE BATHROOM WINDOW ONLY MAMA KNOWS DAY TRIPPER YOU NEVER GIVE ME YOUR MONEY SHE'S A WOMAN I'M DOWN BACK SEAT OF MY CAR HELTER SKELTER ENCORES YESTERDAY THERE'S A PLACE LONG TALL SALLY HI HI HI GOLDEN SLUMBERS/CARRY THAT WEIGHT/THE END I have tried to strike the right balance, that Paul does in his shows, at this present time. I would have had more Wings/solo stuff in, if it was my setlist only.
I like it!! That would be an awesome show!!
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peter:
having seen him 3 times in a year,i thank my lucky stars that the opportunity came al0ng. i enjoyed sunday immensely, the crowd singing coming from right at the back (i was four from the front) was spinetingling to me, nevermind the effect on paul himself. this concert was about the city, it's people and it's second favourite son. it was the perfect way to end five glorious days back after an absence of nine years, meeting old friends and making new ones (some of them quite fit). so ta very much paul, you made me very happy. oh and the lady that pinched me bum.
Hiya! I think I saw you! Was it you? I just watched the replay and your avatar reminds me of you, of course
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I don't get why people want to drop Hey Jude so badly. It's the most famous Beatles song and has the best sing-along value. It'd be amazing to hear live. He definitely will not drop Hey Jude. Ever. Same with Band on the Run or Let it Be. Try to be logical about this, guys. That setlist, boycie, has over half of the abbey road medley, but split up all over the place?? WTF??
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jorke3344:
nellie apple:
?He who joyfully marches to music in rank and file has already earned my contempt. He has been given a large brain by mistake, since for him the spinal cord would surely suffice.? Albert Einstein
I'm facinated that you have posted this quote. Have you actually thought about what Mr. Einstein was suggesting with such a quote?
Oops...I'm sorry because I am so ignorant and old, but to tell you I will give you the paraphrase and I hope you understand why I posted it! This would be the last time that I'll be talking to you. The mods will come here again and might lock this thread so....here it is! This disgrace to civilization should be done away with at once. Heroism at command, senseless brutality, deplorable love-of-country stance, how violently I hate all this, how despicable and ignoble war is; I would rather be torn to shreds than be a part of so base an action! It is my conviction that killing under the cloak of war is nothing but an act of murder." A. Epstein. My point is why make war here on Macca official website -we are all his fans who love and adore him infinitely-so what is this strife all about? Goodbye and I'm outta here on this thread before I get in trouble! Shalom Salaam Au revoir Sayonara Aloha MABUHAY!
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Touchy, touchy. Easy there, no need to get so worked up! Seems to me that there are many different types of McCartney fans. The Beatles fans. Those that appreciate those origins but became fans at different times later and connect with Wings or solo songs. This does have a lot to do with when a fan grew up and what he heard on the radio or TV, but not always. I personally reached musical consciousness in 1977 when a cousin played Wings at the Speed of Sound for me. I told her the lead singer sounded like some other guy I had heard on the radio enough times as a young boy for me to hum or whistle the tunes to. Then she pulled out and played Sgt. Pepper for me! Then I learned he was also the same guy who sang Band on the Run, Jet, My Love, Listen to What the Man Said; all songs I had heard on the radio in the preceding several years but never really realized they all came from the same man. I digress, but the point I want to make is that each McCartney fan became a fan for different reasons at different points in time. I can well imagine that some of today's newest fans will have heard of the Beatles first, and only after delving into his career a bit more, realize that McCartney has such a prodigious post-Beatle catalog. Maybe he didn't "shake the world" in his later career, but his songs are a far cry from only 'obscure b-sides'. I suppose we can all agree that the singer, songwriter and musician in Paul is amazing and that after most albums, he's added to his rich repertoire of songs fit for a live show. That being said, at various points in Paul's career, he has had to decide what to play out on the road. There's only so much you can fit into a concert. In the Beatles heyday, they'd play a frantic 30 minute set to screaming, hysterical ,fainting girls and both sides would be happy. Up until Candlestick Park, that is. Enough of that craziness. When Paul went out on the road with the first Wings line-up, he purposely avoided the Beatles songs to prove himself with his new band and allow it to stand on its own legs, or wings, as the case may be. No Beatles songs to crutch the set up with; a daring and much criticized move at the time. Later Wings line-ups embraced Paul's Beatles songs and he played more of them. Then we jump to 1989 when Paul goes out on the road for the first time in almost a decade. His set includes many never before played Beatles songs and people are ecstatic. There is a balance between old and new. Since then, Paul has said it himself that he imagines what a fan of his would want to hear and chooses the setlist with that in mind. I believe the thinking was right, then. That was 19 years, four major world tours, and various one-off concerts ago. I think his current back catalog set-list is still a valid choice... for 1989, or 1993 or even 2002 (since he hadn't toured in a while). All those dates since then have had a pretty similar set list adding various old and new songs along the way. The old songs have mostly come from the Beatles years and have provided many a moment of magic for his older fans and for the newer ones just coming of musical age. This can't be denied. Since 2002, Paul has toured much more often and has given many more people an opportunity to see him in concert. He has many new fans that have never seen him and while beginning to bore some, has favored dishing out his iconic past to the adoring majority. I believe that this is not a recipe that can last forever with the same level of adulation. Sure, there will be many for whom this will suffice, time and time again, but unless modified, Paul risks a turnover in his fan base. It may be however, that being the smart businessman that he is, Paul believes not changing a winning formula will bring in the larger earnings, but then concert-goers have to contend with going to see pretty much the same show from tour to tour. Reading the various posts in this thread and many others, it seems to me that the most extreme views seem to want to be mutually exclusive of each other. There are those that worship the ground Paul walks upon, even if it included him singing a phone book, and would be perfectly content hearing one concert over and over again! And those that would like Paul to embrace more of his prolific output WITHOUT necessarily negating his origins. If today's and future fans are to expect at least several more tours from this highly energized performer, wouldn't it be more interesting if each tour diversified and embraced more material? And I don't mean 'obscure b-sides' either! I beg anyone to differ from me in saying that playing a number one song that he's never played before (insert title here________), or a hit that hasn't been played live in decades (insert title here________), instead of one of his oft-repeated numbers (insert title here________), will disappoint anyone. I personally can't fathom why "C-Moon" is being trotted out so often in recent years. That's an obscure b-side if ever there was one! Fine, play it on one tour for the novelty, but retire it and choose another song in its place, not many people are going to miss it if it's not gonna be played again! I really liked "Let Me Roll It" in the past, at Anfield I got into it but not as much. "Jet" used to be my favorite Wings song, althoughI wouldn't mind seeing another hit in its place these days. I get a complete adrenaline rush seeing "Live and Let Die" performed with its pyrotechnics, but how many more tours will that cause the same effect? For some, it has already grown old. To conclude, I believe that if Paul bases his set-list choice on what he thinks his fans want to hear, my vote is for him to keep the show fresh with more diversity. As a litmus test for readers of this post, would you rather see Paul play "Maybe I'm Amazed" again, or "A Day in the Life", like he surprised everyone with at Anfield?
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A very articulate and well thought out piece of writing.I agree with your sentiments completely. I hope you don't get shot down for your valid and informed opinion.
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you do make some great points. except, the beatles music is multigenerational. It's played in homes, so even the youngest members know the songs. I took my twelve year old to a concert and she know all the songs. And in my daughter's 4th grade class, there are kids wearing Beatle shirts. That's why you have so many different age groups at the shows. It's not that everyone here wouldn't want to hear a different song, it's that we enjoy being there live. One poster who attended the concert, said it was a big singalong with Paul. For some it doesn't get better than that. There is no need to insult people by saying they will attend a phonebook singalong, or idol worship. Hearing any song live by Paul is a thrill. For some its the set lists that matters. Yes there are all types of fans. So far the formula is working just fine. what would I want to hear - A day in the life or Maybe I'm amazed. I can hear either anytime time I want. Live I prefer Maybe I'm Amazed.
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As far as the different generations of fans, I took my 10 year old son to see Paul for the first time in HIS life at Anfield. He and my 7 year old son hear the Beatles and solo songs at home, they have their favorites and know the words to some of them too. (They do a great Yellow Submarine!) I'm also nurturing a new generation of fans! I didn't take my 7 year old boy to the concert as he wouldn't appreciate it as much as my older boy did. By the way, my 10 year old son was disappointed that Paul didn't play HIS favorite Paul song, "Hi, Hi, Hi". Go figure, can't please everyone! I was disppointed Paul didn't play many other songs too, but I was glad for my son that he enjoyed hearing all the iconic and historic songs live for the first time in his life.
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Good music is timeless. I was getting my nails done and noticed what good music they play everytime I go in there. One time they had the complete Beatle playing . It was so nice to be there and be pampered and have such good music to listen too. Mostof them have some big screen TV blaring. To find out the husband of one of the owner puts the CD together to play in the shop and he about 23 years old. He has all these different CD of song of each era or by artist or by year. Next he doing all Motown.. This music is far from what he grew up listening too. I asked him about it and he said I love this music. He could name songs and who did them and who produced them. I forgot who did them. Like Party all the time. He goes who did this. I thinking OK this was??? He goes Eddie Murphy produced by Rick James. I'm like yaaaaaaa that right I forgot he did a record. Young people who are into music don't limit themselves to what on the radio. So good music like good wine it just gets better and better.
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DennyC i did read someone on here say they would enjoy Paul singing Baa Baa Black Sheep or burp,which is a little silly.I think that's what Lyceum '89 was alluding too. I'm enjoying the selist debate enormously,so many differing views.No wonder it's difficult to please everybody.
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point taken boycie. Although I think Appletart's point is better, good music is like fine wine, it gets better and better.
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The point is that it's Paul. I have a few songs that I'd LOVE to hear him sing live, but since Paul selects the songs he plays, I figure that they must have some special meaning to him. Almost kinda like being inside his heart for just a moment. Would I miss Hey Jude if he didn't sing it? Probably. But, would I complain? No. Because, the man follows his heart. KJ